Guild Wars 2

nerva.7940:

i still cant believe how hard Lost Shores flopped.

Why? The looks like it was still in alpha before they made a pass or two to clean it up for release. Seems like wasted content, because they could have just released fractals by themselves, and continued working on Lost Shores until LS was worth releasing.

America.9437:

And the mmorpg solution for the last decade has been to make it easier to get to L80. Because that’s where the real game begins.

Except that was once a solution used in mature games once expansion content was released and the previous content was no longer as relevant. Now, it’s par for the course that leveling will be so easy at release that it takes maybe a week to hit level cap.

enlil.3849:

I think GW2’s events would have benefited a lot from adopting the PQ system of Warhammer Online, if anybody’s familiar.

That’s what dynamic events are, an evolution of WAR’s PQ system.

TBH, I think it may be a design failure. WAR PQ’s were often criticized for their poor reward structure; seemingly nonsensical contribution trackers used to determine base seeding for reward lists before applying massive RNG. GW2 implemented none of that into DEs, and yet while they’re still just as sparsely populated.

Perhaps, similar to cutscenes, this style of content should be used sparingly. The events would seem more dramatic if they were limited to only major events such as the dragons.

Crystal Desert is a thriving server as well. Queensdale is always popping. When people are calling out DE’s I see anywhere between 15-30 people showing up to down the Champ troll or wasp queen. We had 40+ do the marsh event. True there are some zones that feel “empty” but there are zones in wow on high population servers that are the EXACT same way – and this is the most played game in the world. I remember questing through zones like Desolace or Hinterlands and seeing 2 or 3 people out questing. (I played on Tichondrius – which was one of the busiest pvp realms)

Saying this game doesn’t feel like an MMO because there is no “team dynamic” or because certain zones are empty is a very stupid statement.

When the game came out the zones were slammed full of players, but after making a new character they’re ghost towns.

Please overflow the low level zones!

When an npc runs up to you and yells “we are being attacked, HELP MEEE.”

Why can’t I lure that npc out into the woods, kill him and take his stuff?

Oh right, they have a very loose concept of “RPG” in 2012.

They get the “MMO” part right though. good job, Arenanet.

jason.9217:

More people are waking up to these facts and hopefully Anet is implementing a way to keep everyone happy and playing. In it’s current form the game will be pretty dead within a year.

People are saying the same thing about WoW for over 8 years. Just because the game didn’t fit their personal taste, it’s going to die. And we know how it ended…

So many gamers think that because they, and their 5 friends, didn’t like a game, it’s dying. Just like haters said Avatar was going to be a box office flop before it was released in 2009. Once again, we all know how it ended.

Reality check: just because YOU don’t like something doesn’t make it a failure.

Hellkaiser.6025:

Bastion.2457:

One question I always ask myself though, is that if all of these other MMo’s people quote so much as “GW2 needs to be more like XYZ MMo”, then why are these people here playing this one, and not there, playing that one?

People seem to do an awfully good job of claiming the grass is greener on the other side, but are seldom found there.

-Sigh-

translation:

“If you don’t like it stop playing it, and go elsewhere”

Gussy it up ANY way you like, and keep repeating it but you won’t change the desire to get this game living up to the expectations they raised themselves before release.
If you think we should all just shut up and play or leave, then clearly you’re not here to discuss anything, in which case why are you on the forums? that’s pretty much what they’re here for, feedback and discussion

That vapid and pointless generic “go elsewhere” response, is pretty much spam.

My point is, was, and always will be, that you don’t know what you are whining about. You see a box on a forum and want to fill it with if’s and’s and but’s just because you can. You have rattled on and on about the proverbial “should have been” without taking the actual game into consideration.

You people are the lowest kind of forum bottom dweller, as you just complain for the sake of complaining. You don’t raise anything valid, you just whine, and whine, and whine.

Yes, if you don’t like it, go somewhere else. You are clearly in the minority of people who think the game was going to be something greater and more than it is, or ever made to be. I watch the trailer, and see everything that it offered in the game. You play the game and want it to be every other game, but for no other reason than “because it isn’t those games”.

I cannot ever understand in any form why you people continue to bleat on and on about it. If I don’t like a car, I either don’t buy it, or find after buying it I don’t like it, so I return it or sell it on. If I don’t like a specific food, I don’t buy it anymore. I don’t bleat on and on at the company who produces these products about them not meeting my bespoke expectations.

>>PLEASE READ THIS NEXT LINE CAREFULLY<<

You are expecting the game to be something more based on your own false vision of what the game was going to be, but you were wrong, the game delivered everything it promised, you just can’t see that.

I am all for feedback, but not when it’s just mindless whining.

I agree. I jut got this game a few days ago. I’m on a supposedly “full” server and I do play during prime time hours, yet every zone I’ve been to so far is a ghost town. I see maybe 2 or 3 people after exploring for hours. I can’t do group events, and most of the time they are spawning champions and masses of mobs all over the place that I simply can’t deal with alone. But when I go to Lions Arch theres tons of people and the chat is loaded with people LFG’ing for this FOTM dungeon. It kinda makes me want to just say screw the massive beautiful world and rush my way to 80 so I can actually play with people.

Energumenus.5319:

I agree. I jut got this game a few days ago. I’m on a supposedly “full” server and I do play during prime time hours, yet every zone I’ve been to so far is a ghost town. I see maybe 2 or 3 people after exploring for hours. I can’t do group events, and most of the time they are spawning champions and masses of mobs all over the place that I simply can’t deal with alone. But when I go to Lions Arch theres tons of people and the chat is loaded with people LFG’ing for this FOTM dungeon. It kinda makes me want to just say screw the massive beautiful world and rush my way to 80 so I can actually play with people.

Alot of higher level players are currently plonked in LA as the event is there and they are working on their mini’s, or doing fractals.

Personally I play on a US realm, and I am in the EU so I thought I would be seeing nothing but a ghost town too, but there always seems to be people pottering about wherever I go.