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Posted by: Baldrick.8967

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The new choice restriction is terrible.

I now get to sit and wait for Maw, collect ten logs, go look at a vista, and do events in Southsun cove (is there even events there?).

The wvw choices aren’t much better- take a keep (might happen never on EB, maybe once every few hours on borders).

As for spvp, tried it once, don’t like standing on cap spots with restricted builds or facing the latest cheese builds with my less than great reactions (age and medication), so not likely to help any team win anything.

Of course, it will take them ages to change it.

Oh, and when do we get laurels, don’t seem to be getting any, unless that’s broken for some people too.

WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.

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Posted by: Olvendred.3027

Olvendred.3027

You don’t get any for doing the dailies. You get them for logging in, in lump sums on certain days. In fact, all the rewards you used to get from doing 5 dailies, you now get just from logging in. The only thing you get from doing 3 new dailies is the 10 AP. You do get extra rewards now, but those are for doing each individual daily, rather than having to get 3.

Basically, unless you want the AP, there’s no reason to feel compelled to do dailies at all anymore.

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Posted by: Talindra.4958

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The new daily is sooooooooooo easily achievable … dont even need much effort… ohmygard

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Posted by: Huck.1405

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The new daily is sooooooooooo easily achievable … dont even need much effort… ohmygard

It’s not when crafting is one of the achievements because many of us don’t do crafting! And having to run Fractals as a achievement is BS too.

Hell, the old selection was a helluva lot better. Please stop “improving” things Anet!

“You can teach ’em, but you cant learn ’em.”

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Posted by: Baldrick.8967

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The new daily is sooooooooooo easily achievable … dont even need much effort… ohmygard

The OP isn’t about whether you think it’s easy or not, it’s about the restriction in choice (as well as the stupidity of some of those choices).

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

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there are usually 2 easy pve daily. and the final one, you probably have to get out of the way to choose 1 of the activities. Either a quick spvp match, a quick wvw daily, or do some events in some area or fractal.

usually the wvw daily is quite quick. Just pick the easy one, for example kill a caravan instead of taking a keep etc.

spvp daily is usually easy too. For example take a camp. All you need to do is queue for 2 minutes and immediately go take a camp in the beginning area.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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There are plenty of choices. You have the same number of achievement that you had before the recent update. You’re making the choice by disregarding 8+ achievements because you don’t want to do them. This game is more than just PvE and the purpose of the dailies is to give players an incentive to try other game modes. Most people can do the dailies within 5-10 minutes to get their 10 AP which used to take an hour to do before (to get 10 AP).

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Posted by: Talindra.4958

Talindra.4958

ah… I see.. :P u guys actually intent to do all of them? :o its a choice you know :P

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

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You can actually lose one or two PvP matches and get a PvP daily every day so far.

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The new daily is sooooooooooo easily achievable … dont even need much effort… ohmygard

It’s not when crafting is one of the achievements because many of us don’t do crafting! And having to run Fractals as a achievement is BS too.

Hell, the old selection was a helluva lot better. Please stop “improving” things Anet!

Beleive it or not, the majority are happy with the daily changing.

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

The new daily is sooooooooooo easily achievable … dont even need much effort… ohmygard

It’s not when crafting is one of the achievements because many of us don’t do crafting! And having to run Fractals as a achievement is BS too.

Hell, the old selection was a helluva lot better. Please stop “improving” things Anet!

Beleive it or not, the majority are happy with the daily changing.

Well, if you want to believe it…

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nGumball.1283

The new daily is sooooooooooo easily achievable … dont even need much effort… ohmygard

It’s not when crafting is one of the achievements because many of us don’t do crafting! And having to run Fractals as a achievement is BS too.

Hell, the old selection was a helluva lot better. Please stop “improving” things Anet!

Beleive it or not, the majority are happy with the daily changing.

Well, if you want to believe it…

I do indeed, unlike naive players who started to play MMOs yesterday and don’t even know if GW1 was an MMO or not.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

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I now get to sit and wait for Maw, collect ten logs, go look at a vista, and do events in Southsun cove (is there even events there?).

Yes, but most of them are group events: good luck completing them if it’s not during one of the population spikes before the karka queen is due.

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I now get to sit and wait for Maw, collect ten logs, go look at a vista, and do events in Southsun cove (is there even events there?).

Yes, but most of them are group events: good luck completing them if it’s not during one of the population spikes before the karka queen is due.

There were people running around southsun doing events all day. I did it during slow times when the Karka Queen wasn’t spawning. There were plenty of people.

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Posted by: Halvorn.9831

Halvorn.9831

I’ve given the new daily system a few days before I start judging it. After a few days I feel I can do that finally.

I don’t like it that much, seriously. I liked more unspecific choices like “rezz someone several times” or “dodge several times” or “harvest anything anywhere several times” way more, it came more naturally during what you were playing anyways.

That being said, the new ones are not particularly problematic for me. Even the southsun cove events were fairly easy, I haven’t seen this zone being populated that much for so long outside of queen event in a long time. So, the new dailies may shift focus to underrated aspects of the game. But that focus is easily taken away the next day. If a zone is normally dead, it is so for a reason…

This needs some work IMO.

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Posted by: Pandaman.4758

Pandaman.4758

It’s not when crafting is one of the achievements because many of us don’t do crafting! And having to run Fractals as a achievement is BS too.

The crafting achievement is easy even if you never bothered grinding a crafting profession; all you need is 20 fine essences of luck, which is enough to refine to 1 exotic essence of luck via Artificing (skill requirement is 0 for all tiers of luck refinement).

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

The new daily is sooooooooooo easily achievable … dont even need much effort… ohmygard

It’s not when crafting is one of the achievements because many of us don’t do crafting! And having to run Fractals as a achievement is BS too.

Hell, the old selection was a helluva lot better. Please stop “improving” things Anet!

Beleive it or not, the majority are happy with the daily changing.

Well, if you want to believe it…

I do indeed, unlike naive players who started to play MMOs yesterday and don’t even know if GW1 was an MMO or not.

Again, if that’s what you want to believe…

(though i guess my point sailed over your head)

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

The new daily is sooooooooooo easily achievable … dont even need much effort… ohmygard

It’s not when crafting is one of the achievements because many of us don’t do crafting! And having to run Fractals as a achievement is BS too.

Hell, the old selection was a helluva lot better. Please stop “improving” things Anet!

Beleive it or not, the majority are happy with the daily changing.

Well, if you want to believe it…

I do indeed, unlike naive players who started to play MMOs yesterday and don’t even know if GW1 was an MMO or not.

About as likely as being an MMO as Diablo 1

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thehipone.6812

I now get to sit and wait for Maw, collect ten logs, go look at a vista, and do events in Southsun cove (is there even events there?).

Yes, but most of them are group events: good luck completing them if it’s not during one of the population spikes before the karka queen is due.

Golem parts, reef drake broodmother, karka eggs and superbomber-lionguard-man in the NW (forgot his name) are all easily soloable.

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The new daily is sooooooooooo easily achievable … dont even need much effort… ohmygard

It’s not when crafting is one of the achievements because many of us don’t do crafting! And having to run Fractals as a achievement is BS too.

Hell, the old selection was a helluva lot better. Please stop “improving” things Anet!

To be fair, the crafting (exotic) one is really easy. You don’t even need anything in 400. Just get a toon as an artificer and craft an exo essence of luck, Boom its done. Its a level 1 (iirc) artificer ‘recipe’, so you don’t even need to do any prereqs (other than getting two rare essences of luck, or 20 (if my math is right)) fine essences of luck. Even if you don’t like the crafting, its only like a minute of your time crafting. Its not that bad.

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Posted by: munkiman.3068

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The new daily is sooooooooooo easily achievable … dont even need much effort… ohmygard

It’s not when crafting is one of the achievements because many of us don’t do crafting! And having to run Fractals as a achievement is BS too.

Hell, the old selection was a helluva lot better. Please stop “improving” things Anet!

To be fair, the crafting (exotic) one is really easy. You don’t even need anything in 400. Just get a toon as an artificer and craft an exo essence of luck, Boom its done. Its a level 1 (iirc) artificer ‘recipe’, so you don’t even need to do any prereqs (other than getting two rare essences of luck, or 20 (if my math is right)) fine essences of luck. Even if you don’t like the crafting, its only like a minute of your time crafting. Its not that bad.

Kind of the motto for some of the changes lately “It’s not that bad.”

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The new dailies are what dailies should have been from the beginning! Additional quests that you can go out of your way to do AND YOU GET REWARDED gasp

I’ve seen so many arguments “well I don’t play that way” “well I have to go out of my way to do this (too restrictive)” “OMG I get rewarded for logging in? Travesty!”

“I don’t play that way.” It’s literally a quest to get a reward. If you don’t want the reward, don’t do the quest. Guess what? I’m not a big fan of JPs, and I don’t do WvW that often, but I wanted the monthly reward for doing them, so I would do them.

“I have to go out of my way to get a daily now.” You have to go out of your way to get a quest reward? Oh what a pity. I have to go to Arah to get Arah tokens. I don’t really care to be in Arah, but if I want the tokens that’s where I have to go. This is how quests in every single questing game I’ve ever played work. Go out of your way to complete a quest and get rewarded for doing so.

“I get rewarded for logging in? So this is login wars 2?” So if you are complaining about this, but you want the old system back…doesn’t that kind of make you a hypocrite? With the old system you did generally get the daily 5 completed just doing whatever you would do in a normal day (i.e. quests, gathering, etc.). You didn’t have to go out of your way to complete quests. Now you do, and you’re also given a thank you for logging in that day. I can’t really see the downside.

And AP hunters are mad pretty much solely because everyone can keep up with them on AP relatively easy from dailies now. There aren’t 12 tasks that can actually take some time to complete each day. If this is why you think the system is broken then you should probably get over yourself.

The bottom line is that dailies are quests that (kind of) change each day, and you can go out of your way to do them. I don’t think I’ve spent more than 15 minutes doing dailies a single day yet, which is great because then I can go back to doing whatever it is I wanted to do knowing I got the max AP for that day along with some additional rewards that I didn’t get before.

What other games are out there where you don’t have to go out of your way to complete a quest? Now I’m not completely defending the new daily system, as I think tweaks could be made to make it more creative, or more unique daily quests, without jam-packing a few select maps, but c’mon people. You’re complaining about a MMO giving you a quest reward.

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I have a full time job, a family, and an assortment of other responsibilities. The dailes used to be something general enough that I could log on any given day when I had time, play PvE (I don’t play PvP or WvW), and get rewarded (albeit small) for playing in the small amount of time I had a few days a week, and also feel like I had accomplished something in the game. Basically by limiting the dailes so strictly, ANET has removed any benefit I gained from the game as a casual player. For example, I can’t complete the daily completion today because I don’t have time for fractals and can’t craft exotic items. The fact that I USED to be able to earn those achievement points and now CANNOT is what is so irritating, I think its nice that a lot of you have all the time in the world to play Guild Wars 2, but I don’t. If ANET is going to continue to remove the functionality that makes casual play fun and cater strictly to hard core gamers, I suppose I’m out for the count.

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Manasa Devi.7958

The new dailies are what dailies should have been from the beginning! Additional quests that you can go out of your way to do AND YOU GET REWARDED gasp

I’ve seen so many arguments “well I don’t play that way” “well I have to go out of my way to do this (too restrictive)” “OMG I get rewarded for logging in? Travesty!”

“I don’t play that way.” It’s literally a quest to get a reward. If you don’t want the reward, don’t do the quest. Guess what? I’m not a big fan of JPs, and I don’t do WvW that often, but I wanted the monthly reward for doing them, so I would do them.

“I have to go out of my way to get a daily now.” You have to go out of your way to get a quest reward? Oh what a pity. I have to go to Arah to get Arah tokens. I don’t really care to be in Arah, but if I want the tokens that’s where I have to go. This is how quests in every single questing game I’ve ever played work. Go out of your way to complete a quest and get rewarded for doing so.

“I get rewarded for logging in? So this is login wars 2?” So if you are complaining about this, but you want the old system back…doesn’t that kind of make you a hypocrite? With the old system you did generally get the daily 5 completed just doing whatever you would do in a normal day (i.e. quests, gathering, etc.). You didn’t have to go out of your way to complete quests. Now you do, and you’re also given a thank you for logging in that day. I can’t really see the downside.

And AP hunters are mad pretty much solely because everyone can keep up with them on AP relatively easy from dailies now. There aren’t 12 tasks that can actually take some time to complete each day. If this is why you think the system is broken then you should probably get over yourself.

The bottom line is that dailies are quests that (kind of) change each day, and you can go out of your way to do them. I don’t think I’ve spent more than 15 minutes doing dailies a single day yet, which is great because then I can go back to doing whatever it is I wanted to do knowing I got the max AP for that day along with some additional rewards that I didn’t get before.

What other games are out there where you don’t have to go out of your way to complete a quest? Now I’m not completely defending the new daily system, as I think tweaks could be made to make it more creative, or more unique daily quests, without jam-packing a few select maps, but c’mon people. You’re complaining about a MMO giving you a quest reward.

I’m sorry, I couldn’t get past the part in your post where you called them quests. Quests? Really now? They’re not quests. They’re stupid pet tricks. Standing on top of a building in the Black Citadel isn’t a quest. Cutting down a few trees isn’t a quest. Crafting something useless isn’t a quest. The very notion is laughable.

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I’m sorry, I couldn’t get past the part in your post where you called them quests. Quests? Really now? They’re not quests. They’re stupid pet tricks. Standing on top of a building in the Black Citadel isn’t a quest. Cutting down a few trees isn’t a quest. Crafting something useless isn’t a quest. The very notion is laughable.

Quest: a search or pursuit made in order to find or obtain something (i.e. find a vista, get reward)

Doesn’t matter how “epic” the quest sounds to you, if you want to play semantics then there’s the dictionary definition. What I do take out of your post is the implication that you’d like more, which I’d agree with. More quests in the traditional sense for a daily reward would be a welcome addition in my book.

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I have a full time job, a family, and an assortment of other responsibilities. The dailes used to be something general enough that I could log on any given day when I had time, play PvE (I don’t play PvP or WvW), and get rewarded (albeit small) for playing in the small amount of time I had a few days a week, and also feel like I had accomplished something in the game. Basically by limiting the dailes so strictly, ANET has removed any benefit I gained from the game as a casual player. For example, I can’t complete the daily completion today because I don’t have time for fractals and can’t craft exotic items. The fact that I USED to be able to earn those achievement points and now CANNOT is what is so irritating, I think its nice that a lot of you have all the time in the world to play Guild Wars 2, but I don’t. If ANET is going to continue to remove the functionality that makes casual play fun and cater strictly to hard core gamers, I suppose I’m out for the count.

You can craft exotics. Artificer can refine luck at lvl 0. You get average of 118 luck per ecto ( Ref ) So buy 2 ectos, salvage, refine your 200+ luck into an exotic essence and collect your daily reward chest with 3 ectos.

Probably could have done it in the time it took to write the complain post.

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Posted by: Manasa Devi.7958

Manasa Devi.7958

I’m sorry, I couldn’t get past the part in your post where you called them quests. Quests? Really now? They’re not quests. They’re stupid pet tricks. Standing on top of a building in the Black Citadel isn’t a quest. Cutting down a few trees isn’t a quest. Crafting something useless isn’t a quest. The very notion is laughable.

Quest: a search or pursuit made in order to find or obtain something (i.e. find a vista, get reward)

Doesn’t matter how “epic” the quest sounds to you, if you want to play semantics then there’s the dictionary definition. What I do take out of your post is the implication that you’d like more, which I’d agree with. More quests in the traditional sense for a daily reward would be a welcome addition in my book.

But there is no search, no pursuit, and no need to find anything. It’s all in plain sight right on the minimap.

Stupid pet tricks in return for unfulfilling treats.

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Posted by: mXz.4512

mXz.4512

I too think there’s lack of choice now.

In the PVE daily tab (if you finish 3, you get a chest)
- (Area) ore miner/lumberer > this used to be generalized as “Gatherer” where you could mine, cut lumber, harvest veggies anywhere.
- Daily Shatterer or some other world boss – Before you had daily Champion or Vet Slayer, it didn’t matter where you killed them – you still got it.
- Daily Exotic Crafter – Before it wasn’t specific to exotic crafting

So yea, it’s more narrowed down to a specific area and less to choose from.
And I also hate wasting 1hour 30mins just to wait to get the daily Maw in Wayfarer Foothills which also now is a giant zergfest when I could be knocking out a combo of the dailies as I go. Before this update, you ported into a map and you saw people running parts of the map in groups mining, taking down a boss or whatever daily they were on. With the lack of choice now, it’s a giant crowd of wait 20 minutes for x boss.

Also, daily vista.. I prefer daily puzzle jumper.

I also wouldn’t mind doing a daily scavenger hunt – say perhaps during that reset, you have specific items or checkpoints popup which led to a double chest or double/triple boss fight. Just something different to be slightly challenging/involved.

TLDR, more choices like before because it’s been noticeably cut short or too specific.

Yes I’m a vet, yes I’m salty. Problem?

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Posted by: Andred.1087

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I’d be down with a couple more options per category per day, but still, on average, it’s been considerably less effort for me to get them done.

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I now get to sit and wait for Maw, collect ten logs, go look at a vista, and do events in Southsun cove (is there even events there?).

Yes, but most of them are group events: good luck completing them if it’s not during one of the population spikes before the karka queen is due.

Golem parts, reef drake broodmother, karka eggs and superbomber-lionguard-man in the NW (forgot his name) are all easily soloable.

Sure, if you can actually get to them in time before the zerg finishes them.
Other maps are almost always empty when I log on now because everyone is on the same spot, trying to get a daily.

It’s impracticable and yet another in a constant stream of bad updates from anet.
I’ve spent a lot of time defending dumb changes because I really wanted to give the game a chance, considering how much time I’ve sunk in GW1, but even I’m getting to the point where I barely play anymore because it’ just not enjoyable anymore.

Constant push towards the gemstore, constant dumbing down of things that were never that difficult anyway and the constant bad gameplay changes are killing it for me, and from the looks of it, a lot of other people.

Every change by itself isn’t too terrible, but the pile is starting to get insurmountable now.

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Posted by: Malkavian.4516

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The new dailies are what dailies should have been from the beginning! Additional quests that you can go out of your way to do AND YOU GET REWARDED gasp

I’ve seen so many arguments “well I don’t play that way” “well I have to go out of my way to do this (too restrictive)” “OMG I get rewarded for logging in? Travesty!”

“I don’t play that way.” It’s literally a quest to get a reward. If you don’t want the reward, don’t do the quest. Guess what? I’m not a big fan of JPs, and I don’t do WvW that often, but I wanted the monthly reward for doing them, so I would do them.

“I have to go out of my way to get a daily now.” You have to go out of your way to get a quest reward? Oh what a pity. I have to go to Arah to get Arah tokens. I don’t really care to be in Arah, but if I want the tokens that’s where I have to go. This is how quests in every single questing game I’ve ever played work. Go out of your way to complete a quest and get rewarded for doing so.

“I get rewarded for logging in? So this is login wars 2?” So if you are complaining about this, but you want the old system back…doesn’t that kind of make you a hypocrite? With the old system you did generally get the daily 5 completed just doing whatever you would do in a normal day (i.e. quests, gathering, etc.). You didn’t have to go out of your way to complete quests. Now you do, and you’re also given a thank you for logging in that day. I can’t really see the downside.

And AP hunters are mad pretty much solely because everyone can keep up with them on AP relatively easy from dailies now. There aren’t 12 tasks that can actually take some time to complete each day. If this is why you think the system is broken then you should probably get over yourself.

The bottom line is that dailies are quests that (kind of) change each day, and you can go out of your way to do them. I don’t think I’ve spent more than 15 minutes doing dailies a single day yet, which is great because then I can go back to doing whatever it is I wanted to do knowing I got the max AP for that day along with some additional rewards that I didn’t get before.

What other games are out there where you don’t have to go out of your way to complete a quest? Now I’m not completely defending the new daily system, as I think tweaks could be made to make it more creative, or more unique daily quests, without jam-packing a few select maps, but c’mon people. You’re complaining about a MMO giving you a quest reward.

I’m sorry, I couldn’t get past the part in your post where you called them quests. Quests? Really now? They’re not quests. They’re stupid pet tricks. Standing on top of a building in the Black Citadel isn’t a quest. Cutting down a few trees isn’t a quest. Crafting something useless isn’t a quest. The very notion is laughable.

Okay those may not be quests. But have you neglected the killing of a world boss as a quest? Or doing 4 quests in an area as a larger quest?

All that aside, if there is one thing I do like about the new selection is that they are not so easy to obtain as before. I go out of my usual playing habits just to attain something nice for myself. They feel like actual achievements in a way.

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Lazuli.2098

There are plenty of choices. You have the same number of achievement that you had before the recent update. You’re making the choice by disregarding 8+ achievements because you don’t want to do them. This game is more than just PvE and the purpose of the dailies is to give players an incentive to try other game modes. Most people can do the dailies within 5-10 minutes to get their 10 AP which used to take an hour to do before (to get 10 AP).

Actually the new dailies have removed my incentive to play the game half the time. I log in to get the laurel (my main reason for dong dailies before). I’ve done about half the new dailies because I don’t play pvp or wvw (I have already tried them) or dungeons or fractals (I mainly play solo or with my sister). Dailies in the past used to provide incentive to actually play the game. Now I find myself preferring to do other things. I have been doing the Wintersday dailies though because I like playing Choir Bells.

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Posted by: KurisuX.7340

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The Exotic Crafting and Fractals made me log out for the day. Since the Sept patch I quit playing Neverwinter (which I sunk an insane amount of time into) and came back to GW2 full time. Since the new dailies, which I really want to get on board with, I find myself pulling away from GW2 looking for something new like I did with NW. It seems exclusive, a tad confusing, and frustrating for those of us who haven’t mastered any crafts. If anything I’d rather see a jumping puzzle or something. Maybe this is to lower the cost of exotic items in the trading post, but it’s frustrating for those of us who have exhausted all our gold trying to level these stupid crafts up and the daily is just out of reach.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

There are plenty of choices. You have the same number of achievement that you had before the recent update. You’re making the choice by disregarding 8+ achievements because you don’t want to do them. This game is more than just PvE and the purpose of the dailies is to give players an incentive to try other game modes. Most people can do the dailies within 5-10 minutes to get their 10 AP which used to take an hour to do before (to get 10 AP).

Actually the new dailies have removed my incentive to play the game half the time. I log in to get the laurel (my main reason for dong dailies before). I’ve done about half the new dailies because I don’t play pvp or wvw (I have already tried them) or dungeons or fractals (I mainly play solo or with my sister). Dailies in the past used to provide incentive to actually play the game. Now I find myself preferring to do other things. I have been doing the Wintersday dailies though because I like playing Choir Bells.

You were playing for the rewards rather than the the tasks for the achievements. Nothing has really changed as you can still do everything as you did before with the only difference being that the laurel is awarded upon logging in. If you truly enjoyed doing the tasks for those old daily achievements, then whether the reward was removed or not shouldn’t matter.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

The Exotic Crafting and Fractals made me log out for the day. Since the Sept patch I quit playing Neverwinter (which I sunk an insane amount of time into) and came back to GW2 full time. Since the new dailies, which I really want to get on board with, I find myself pulling away from GW2 looking for something new like I did with NW. It seems exclusive, a tad confusing, and frustrating for those of us who haven’t mastered any crafts. If anything I’d rather see a jumping puzzle or something. Maybe this is to lower the cost of exotic items in the trading post, but it’s frustrating for those of us who have exhausted all our gold trying to level these stupid crafts up and the daily is just out of reach.

You could have done the exotic crafting daily by refining luck which costs zero gold and you don’t need to have any skill level in artificer to do so.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

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I now get to sit and wait for Maw, collect ten logs, go look at a vista, and do events in Southsun cove (is there even events there?).

Yes, but most of them are group events: good luck completing them if it’s not during one of the population spikes before the karka queen is due.

There were people running around southsun doing events all day. I did it during slow times when the Karka Queen wasn’t spawning. There were plenty of people.

Probably only because it was the daily… but granted, that’s probably a case of the system working as intended. Mind you, when the zerg is there, you’re competing with the zerg to get credit for events before they’re done. (Yes, this is a bit of a ’can’t win’ situation. That’s kinda the point.)

@thehipone: I did say ‘most’. I also can’t say I’d want to be getting a daily event achievement off those four events: golem parts is a pacmanesque which isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, karka eggs takes a long time since you normally have to go through each nest at least twice in order to get enough eggs when soloing, meaning you have to wait for them to respawn (and that’s if you know about the nests beneath the island), and those four events are spread widely across the map.

To those who think Scarlet hate means she’s succeeded as a villain:
People don’t hate Scarlet like Game of Thrones fans hate Joffrey.
They hate her the way Star Wars fans hate Jar Jar Binks.

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I now get to sit and wait for Maw, collect ten logs, go look at a vista, and do events in Southsun cove (is there even events there?).

Yes, but most of them are group events: good luck completing them if it’s not during one of the population spikes before the karka queen is due.

There were people running around southsun doing events all day. I did it during slow times when the Karka Queen wasn’t spawning. There were plenty of people.

Probably only because it was the daily… but granted, that’s probably a case of the system working as intended. Mind you, when the zerg is there, you’re competing with the zerg to get credit for events before they’re done. (Yes, this is a bit of a ’can’t win’ situation. That’s kinda the point.)

@thehipone: I did say ‘most’. I also can’t say I’d want to be getting a daily event achievement off those four events: golem parts is a pacmanesque which isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, karka eggs takes a long time since you normally have to go through each nest at least twice in order to get enough eggs when soloing, meaning you have to wait for them to respawn (and that’s if you know about the nests beneath the island), and those four events are spread widely across the map.

But where does that line of thought end? Presumably you have to do SOMETHING for a daily. And there are options. And then you say, Oh I don’t like that, Oh I don’t like that, Oh, I don’t like that – ANet why you no give choice?! All of the complaints on the forums seem to stem from people who put all these arbitrary restrictions (no PVE, no WvW, not that event) and then cry lack of choice, when it is in fact self imposed. Heck, there’s another thread where a guy shows that you can finish the dailies in 5-10 minutes if you free it up a bit.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

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@thehipone: Possibly having more than four in the PvE category? The other two categories tend to be more things you can get in the course of normal play of that mode to me (sPvP certainly is – the only thing you might have to go out of your way for is the profession wins and maybe point defender. WvW dailies I can’t comment on).

That said, some players do genuinely only enjoy one of the game modes. I’m not one of them myself, but I can certainly see where they’re coming from.

And, as I’ve said before, a lot of them are simply “travel to this zone, maybe move around a bit to collect nodes, and done”. The so-called “achievement” is in traveling, and I think it’s reasonable for PvE players to have an option to finish their dailies without bouncing across the map… just like sPvP players can get three at once in a single match (if they win while playing one of the professions that are up that day) and WvW players can probably get at least three while staying on the same map.

Basically, it’s a matter of achievements being fun to do. The PvP ones are (sPvP has been where I’ve been getting most of mine). The PvE ones feel more like a checklist of places to visit than fun.

To those who think Scarlet hate means she’s succeeded as a villain:
People don’t hate Scarlet like Game of Thrones fans hate Joffrey.
They hate her the way Star Wars fans hate Jar Jar Binks.

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Posted by: Azhure.1857

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You don’t get any for doing the dailies. You get them for logging in, in lump sums on certain days. In fact, all the rewards you used to get from doing 5 dailies, you now get just from logging in. The only thing you get from doing 3 new dailies is the 10 AP. You do get extra rewards now, but those are for doing each individual daily, rather than having to get 3.

Basically, unless you want the AP, there’s no reason to feel compelled to do dailies at all anymore.

+1
I like the new system. I get rewarded just for logging in and play whatever I feel like doing that day. Its enjoyable for me. Do I always get the Dailies as I go along? Nope. But its a nice happy surprise when I do.
I know, I know — not everyone likes it. But I wonder if that isn’t more because they don’t fully understand the system yet, the crappy bugs still within this new system, and/or that it is another CHANGE. Change is difficult for a lot of people.

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