Guild Wars 2

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Game-Update-Notes-December-14-2012

Finally, thank you Shundis.

Some of these changes are brilliant! I have been looking forward to the changes to the fractals ascended ring system for a long time and this will make many players happy.

Also the other general enhancements and tweaks are very welcome.

Thanks for putting up the patch notes early Anet Really good work!

There are some decent changes, but quite a few things I’m disappointed about as well. In particular:

1.) Attack speed issues on numerous weapon sets such as Ranger Longbow and Thief Pistol that continue to go unaddressed and cripple the viability and enjoyability of those sets.

2.) No dungeon loot rebalancing, Fractals still the only way to get Ascended.

Einlanzer.1627:

2.) No dungeon loot rebalancing, Fractals still the only way to get Ascended.

Ascended items have a slot for infusions. Infusions provide agony resistance. Agony is only in fractals.

What’s the issue?

Ayrilana.1396:

Einlanzer.1627:

2.) No dungeon loot rebalancing, Fractals still the only way to get Ascended.

Ascended items have a slot for infusions. Infusions provide agony resistance. Agony is only in fractals.

What’s the issue?

Higher stats.

Ayrilana.1396:

Einlanzer.1627:

2.) No dungeon loot rebalancing, Fractals still the only way to get Ascended.

Ascended items have a slot for infusions. Infusions provide agony resistance. Agony is only in fractals.

What’s the issue?

Are we going to have this discussion again? Like seriously? Where have you been since Lost Shores update? Poke around the forums a bit, I’m sure you’ll find several topics (among which is one huuuuuge topic) which describes the issues.

Ayrilana.1396:

Einlanzer.1627:

2.) No dungeon loot rebalancing, Fractals still the only way to get Ascended.

Ascended items have a slot for infusions. Infusions provide agony resistance. Agony is only in fractals.

What’s the issue?

The issue is that Ascended gear is better than exotic gear, and is only available in the Fractals dungeons. This means that at the level cap most people aren’t doing anything but running Fractals over and over, which is harmful to the game.

It’s not rocket science.

Einlanzer.1627:

1.) Attack speed issues on numerous weapon sets such as Ranger Longbow and Thief Pistol that continue to go unaddressed and cripple the viability and enjoyability of those sets.

I thought they increased the speed of ranger longbow by 30% and increased the damage on some pistol/pistol related traits.

Love the notes btw, GJ ArenaNet, lots of nice changes.

If you want ascended gear to be distributed among other avenues, then this was not the update you were looking for (also you can quit if you’d like see if we care). Enjoy Wintersday everyone! The next updates in January and February (which may as much release Cantha or just new year celebrations) will be changes to ascended gear to all areas of the game and then some. They just fixed loot drops apparently, so lets go hunt some vets and champions!!

Levistis.8356:

Einlanzer.1627:

1.) Attack speed issues on numerous weapon sets such as Ranger Longbow and Thief Pistol that continue to go unaddressed and cripple the viability and enjoyability of those sets.

I thought they increased the speed of ranger longbow by 30% and increased the damage on some pistol/pistol related traits.

Love the notes btw, GJ ArenaNet, lots of nice changes.

They increased the projectile speed for the Longbow, not the rate of fire (both needed fixing), and the Thief’s pistol changes were just to a couple of weak traits and do little to fix the core issue of Vital Shot being very underpowered and crippling Pistol’s DPS.

“A free wizard’s hat is available in the style category for every player to enjoy.”

Hats!

Yumiko Ishida.3769:

If you want ascended gear to be distributed among other avenues, then this was not the update you were looking for (also you can quit if you’d like see if we care). Enjoy Wintersday everyone! The next updates in January and February (which may as much release Cantha or just new year celebrations) will be changes to ascended gear to all areas of the game and then some. They just fixed loot drops apparently, so lets go hunt some vets and champions!!

Source?

Awesome fixes, can’t wait for the Winters Day event since I missed the Halloween one.

I’m loving the detail on these patch notes, as well as them being posted in a timely manner. Now I can read them while the update downloads

Hate the nerf to AH on my guard, though, but I’ll get over it…

What nerf to gaurdian AH? I dont see it

Einlanzer.1627:

Ayrilana.1396:

Einlanzer.1627:

2.) No dungeon loot rebalancing, Fractals still the only way to get Ascended.

Ascended items have a slot for infusions. Infusions provide agony resistance. Agony is only in fractals.

What’s the issue?

The issue is that Ascended gear is better than exotic gear, and is only available in the Fractals dungeons. This means that at the level cap most people aren’t doing anything but running Fractals over and over, which is harmful to the game.

It’s not rocket science.

Marginally better.

I fail to see how it’s harmful to the game. You can still do the other dungeons. There’s still plenty of people to do WvW. Orr events take a hit but a lot of them had been glitched so there was no point in doing them.

There’s more than just ascended items as a reason to farm fractals. It’s a great source of income. Especially after all the decent sources in Orr were nerfed. Fractals isn’t ruining the game.

Fishbait.6723:

Higher stats.

Marginally better.

Ballistic.4531:

Are we going to have this discussion again? Like seriously? Where have you been since Lost Shores update? Poke around the forums a bit, I’m sure you’ll find several topics (among which is one huuuuuge topic) which describes the issues.

I have seen all the topics. Just a bunch of people complaining because some people will be 0.01% better stat-wise or that they’re supposedly ruining endgame which they’re not.

Ayrilana.1396:

Einlanzer.1627:

Ayrilana.1396:

Einlanzer.1627:

2.) No dungeon loot rebalancing, Fractals still the only way to get Ascended.

Ascended items have a slot for infusions. Infusions provide agony resistance. Agony is only in fractals.

What’s the issue?

The issue is that Ascended gear is better than exotic gear, and is only available in the Fractals dungeons. This means that at the level cap most people aren’t doing anything but running Fractals over and over, which is harmful to the game.

It’s not rocket science.

Marginally better.

I fail to see how it’s harmful to the game. You can still do the other dungeons. There’s still plenty of people to do WvW. Orr events take a hit but a lot of them had been glitched so there was no point in doing them.

There’s more than just ascended items as a reason to farm fractals. It’s a great source of income. Especially after all the decent sources in Orr were nerfed. Fractals isn’t ruining the game.

No, Fractals isn’t ruining the game, the distribution of loot is.

Ayrilana.1396:

Einlanzer.1627:

Ayrilana.1396:

Einlanzer.1627:

2.) No dungeon loot rebalancing, Fractals still the only way to get Ascended.

Ascended items have a slot for infusions. Infusions provide agony resistance. Agony is only in fractals.

What’s the issue?

The issue is that Ascended gear is better than exotic gear, and is only available in the Fractals dungeons. This means that at the level cap most people aren’t doing anything but running Fractals over and over, which is harmful to the game.

It’s not rocket science.

Marginally better.

I fail to see how it’s harmful to the game. You can still do the other dungeons. There’s still plenty of people to do WvW. Orr events take a hit but a lot of them had been glitched so there was no point in doing them.

There’s more than just ascended items as a reason to farm fractals. It’s a great source of income. Especially after all the decent sources in Orr were nerfed. Fractals isn’t ruining the game.

I would disagree. Fractals is far and away the very very best means of income when playing the game (emphasis on playing…you can of course make more money just working the trading post, but I would argue you aren’t actually playing the game if you are doing that). Try to compare running fractals for a day to WvW….it’s a complete joke. Same with running Orr or really any other dungeon.

Add to that fact that the highest tier gear is exclusive to Fractals (Yes they may be “marginally” better, but still they are the most powerful gear in the game) and you have a system that encourages everyone in endgame to participate in a single activity (Fractals).

That, in my opinion, breaks the game. They should be focusing on ways to spread people out, to encourage DIFFERENT activities, not encourage and reward everyone for doing the same thing over and over again.

drwookie.6391:

Ayrilana.1396:

Einlanzer.1627:

Ayrilana.1396:

Einlanzer.1627:

2.) No dungeon loot rebalancing, Fractals still the only way to get Ascended.

Ascended items have a slot for infusions. Infusions provide agony resistance. Agony is only in fractals.

What’s the issue?

The issue is that Ascended gear is better than exotic gear, and is only available in the Fractals dungeons. This means that at the level cap most people aren’t doing anything but running Fractals over and over, which is harmful to the game.

It’s not rocket science.

Marginally better.

I fail to see how it’s harmful to the game. You can still do the other dungeons. There’s still plenty of people to do WvW. Orr events take a hit but a lot of them had been glitched so there was no point in doing them.

There’s more than just ascended items as a reason to farm fractals. It’s a great source of income. Especially after all the decent sources in Orr were nerfed. Fractals isn’t ruining the game.

I would disagree. Fractals is far and away the very very best means of income when playing the game (emphasis on playing…you can of course make more money just working the trading post, but I would argue you aren’t actually playing the game if you are doing that). Try to compare running fractals for a day to WvW….it’s a complete joke. Same with running Orr or really any other dungeon.

Add to that fact that they highest tier gear is exclusive to Fractals (Yes they may be “marginally” better, but still they are the most superior gear in the game) and you have a system that encourages everyone in endgame to participate in a single activity (Fractals).

That, in my opinion, breaks the game. They should be focusing on ways to spread people out, to encourage DIFFERENT activities, not encourage and reward everyone for doing the same thing over and over again.

As opposed to just Orr before fractals came out?

Ayrilana.1396:

drwookie.6391:

Ayrilana.1396:

Einlanzer.1627:

Ayrilana.1396:

Einlanzer.1627:

2.) No dungeon loot rebalancing, Fractals still the only way to get Ascended.

Ascended items have a slot for infusions. Infusions provide agony resistance. Agony is only in fractals.

What’s the issue?

The issue is that Ascended gear is better than exotic gear, and is only available in the Fractals dungeons. This means that at the level cap most people aren’t doing anything but running Fractals over and over, which is harmful to the game.

It’s not rocket science.

Marginally better.

I fail to see how it’s harmful to the game. You can still do the other dungeons. There’s still plenty of people to do WvW. Orr events take a hit but a lot of them had been glitched so there was no point in doing them.

There’s more than just ascended items as a reason to farm fractals. It’s a great source of income. Especially after all the decent sources in Orr were nerfed. Fractals isn’t ruining the game.

I would disagree. Fractals is far and away the very very best means of income when playing the game (emphasis on playing…you can of course make more money just working the trading post, but I would argue you aren’t actually playing the game if you are doing that). Try to compare running fractals for a day to WvW….it’s a complete joke. Same with running Orr or really any other dungeon.

Add to that fact that they highest tier gear is exclusive to Fractals (Yes they may be “marginally” better, but still they are the most superior gear in the game) and you have a system that encourages everyone in endgame to participate in a single activity (Fractals).

That, in my opinion, breaks the game. They should be focusing on ways to spread people out, to encourage DIFFERENT activities, not encourage and reward everyone for doing the same thing over and over again.

As opposed to just Orr before fractals came out?

I’m not necessarily saying the system was that much better before, but they are definitely not going in the right direction.

Though to be honest before Fractals came out I do feel like people were more spread out. I knew some people who would run CoF ad infinitum, and others who would hang out in Orr. Heck once they had their exotics I feel more people were completely content just playing WvW all day (which is what I still do, despite being broke because of it). As soon as they added a “new tier” with “marginally better stats” that is only located in one place (which isn’t even in the real world, it is accessed from town)….they stuffed the vast majority into that small space. I personally don’t think it was the right direction to go, but I realize the game doesn’t cater 100% to my likes. However I do know I’m also not alone in my displeasure.

lol by the time we gonna start farming/grinding Ascended like stats Worldwide is when those Dungeons Runners had already got all of the BiS items from Fractals.
Told ya

Grazingcattle.1627:

What nerf to gaurdian AH? I dont see it

Vigorous Precision only procs every 5 seconds now

They fixed a lot of things, they changed a ton of things, they added even more things, but most importantly of ALL: they did not break anything!

(so far nothing reported that stupid as the inability-to-jump-fiasco of last build crossing_my_fingers)

I find this patch great so far, and I admit it!
Arenanet is starting to go the right way, and I like it.
Among the things that Arenanet did wrong, but is fixing

1. You cannot introduce something with so much restriction: The only way of obtaining Ascended gear was “MUST be FotM 10+(even#), ONCE per day, Account Bound(untradable) and RNG on top of that”. Thus cannot be bought, sold, obtained by working hard, and must grind hard for a chance at it…
Fixed by introducing obtainable rings by tokens

2. People dont like discarding their gears. Discarding my Soulbound(untradable) Exotic items that i worked hard for to make way for Ascended gear did not appeal to anyone at all. Taking an Exotic item that i already have and upgrading it into Ascended, that will make everyone feel like moving the next step rather than scrapping everything you did and restarting from scratch.
Starting to get on the right path, they are making a way to upgrade Ascended Rings into their Ascended(infused) version. Rather than searching for the same ring’s ascended version, just upgrade it. The right idea is here, with a bit of hope Arenanet will make items such as Mjolnir and Triforge Pendant upgradable to an Ascended version via Mystic Forge recipes.

Jabronee.9465:

lol by the time we gonna start farming/grinding Ascended like stats Worldwide is when those Dungeons Runners had already got all of the BiS items from Fractals.
Told ya

Heh yea. Dungeon runners get the best stuff first. Then everyone else will be allowed to play catch up later. I can’t understand why arenanet wants so badly to turn this game into just another “instance or gtfo” clone. It was such an amazing game.

Ah well

This patch is MOST EXCELLENT
The two posts under the list of changes are a great step in the right direction. Do more of that from now on and I’ll be satisfied

Levistis.8356:

Einlanzer.1627:

1.) Attack speed issues on numerous weapon sets such as Ranger Longbow and Thief Pistol that continue to go unaddressed and cripple the viability and enjoyability of those sets.

I thought they increased the speed of ranger longbow by 30% and increased the damage on some pistol/pistol related traits.

Love the notes btw, GJ ArenaNet, lots of nice changes.

yes,but he meant specific class,especially ranger,that wants to specialize in ranged combat.i fully agree,as i tried to send feedback on this too.funny as my comment for marked as infringed.I guess it was too…negative?