I believe this was brought up or mentioned before, but I am going to put this out there into the universe anyway.
As the topic describes, is there a possibility of Race/Class change items being implemented in the gemstore? With the April 14th patch alot of my aesthetic choices are now inferior since I have more control over my avatar in-game; and because of this I would like to be able to race/class swap my characters around, along with their gender.
I think before this was brought up and Anet said something about Personal Story being a factor in that not being an option, as well as there being an issue with armor types. Has this been alleviated in anyway now with the implementation of the wardrobe system and transmutation charges? Is this currently being worked on at all, or are there no future plans? Does anet not want to take more of my money please?
I’ve invested over 400 hours into my guardian alone, re-rolling a new character to get some altered attack animations, re-investing all that money into gear, maps cleared, etc etc seems like a daunting task. Not to mention for an example, my thief who has full travelers and a commander tag. Why should that be such a permanent choice up front whose significance or differences are not clearly annotated? I do not want to sound like I am complaining or feeling slighted, I am just trying to create healthy discussion.
For example, let people sample attack animations (hundred blades as a charr vs asura vs norn). I am not going to lie, my motivations are purely cosmetic, and who actually does personal story anymore anyway? I’ve maxed at least every class (except necromancer) and I stopped doing personal story universally. Not to mention it merges after level 30 anyway, and all characters have the same choices. Is there no way to reset the first three chapters for players or make them go through it again on the re-skinned character?
I’d be keen if they’d add in something like the armory system FFXIV uses, but I’m pretty sure it’s never going to happen. :-/
Fine for now, I suppose, and would only really become an issue if a new profession is ever added. Same with race changes, really…
The storyline bit though I don’t think should work against it. As terrible as the story ended up being, its implementation and ‘integrity’ should never really be used to counter anything.
Gone for good after Halloween 2Ø12.
A shame fun things could not simply be fun.
They would have to add a TON of code to facilitate those changes then, and code it so that people doing the altered story steps after their race change DIDNT get rewards for doing so (since they got rewards the first time around).
They have more important things to spend their time on and it’s extra code clutter that the game doesn’t need.
If you picked the wrong race/class that’s your own problem. You have plenty of character slots, perhaps you should have played around.
you know, it’s actually pretty easy to do, code wise too.
considering you want to change your race you must agree to the following terms
1/ level 80 , personal story finished
2/your personal story is reseted to 0
3/ once you change your race you get no more rewards from the new personal story considering you got it from your last and it makes no sense , reward wise too, you still are lvl 80 and don’t need low level items, key , a few transmute charges you can skip, thus 0 rewards.
4/ just pick another personal story with no rewards, its a 0 or a 1 option in code
5/ cultural armor can have an npc that trades your previous race armor off you and gives you same tire , same class armor
considering people that want race change care much more about the change than rewards, i don’t see why not
you know, it’s actually pretty easy to do, code wise too.
considering you want to change your race you must agree to the following terms
1/ level 80 , personal story finished
2/your personal story is reseted to 0
3/ once you change your race you get no more rewards from the new personal story considering you got it from your last and it makes no sense , reward wise too, you still are lvl 80 and don’t need low level items, key , a few transmute charges you can skip, thus 0 rewards.
4/ just pick another personal story with no rewards, its a 0 or a 1 option in code
5/ cultural armor can have an npc that trades your previous race armor off you and gives you same tire , same class armor
considering people that want race change care much more about the change than rewards, i don’t see why not
Yes, because programming changes in a live MMO is truly an easy task.
people speaking on behalf of arena net what is or not is hard to do are plenty, everybody pulls out the scarecrow saying “omg it’s difficult, almost impossible to do”
but having no actual idea what that obscure and occult “coding” is, stop that please.
someone who makes a product and is not capable of modifying it is not a pro at it, i would like not to think this is the case at hand.
you know, it’s actually pretty easy to do, code wise too.
considering you want to change your race you must agree to the following terms
1/ level 80 , personal story finished
2/your personal story is reseted to 0
3/ once you change your race you get no more rewards from the new personal story considering you got it from your last and it makes no sense , reward wise too, you still are lvl 80 and don’t need low level items, key , a few transmute charges you can skip, thus 0 rewards.
4/ just pick another personal story with no rewards, its a 0 or a 1 option in code
5/ cultural armor can have an npc that trades your previous race armor off you and gives you same tire , same class armor
considering people that want race change care much more about the change than rewards, i don’t see why not
Yes, because programming changes in a live MMO is truly an easy task.
people speaking on behalf of arena net what is or not is hard to do are plenty, everybody pulls out the scarecrow saying “omg it’s difficult, almost impossible to do”
but having no actual idea what that obscure and occult “coding” is, stop that please.
someone who makes a product and is not capable of modifying it is not a pro at it, i would like not to think this is the case at hand.
It’s already been discussed by Anet that due to complications of various aspects of game, this suggestion won’t be implemented. It’s not a matter of them being a “pro” or not. It’s a matter of them understanding how their game works, and their ability to think beyond “it sounds easy, so it must be”.
And that worked so well with the Assault Knights scaling and rewards issue that lasted over a week. I was one of the players that actually helped the Devs to pinpoint the problem with the coding.
I use to want this, now i don’t need it, as i deleted the char that was annoying me and just re-rolled, if ppl still want this i wont dis it just because i dont need it, but OP you should know this is a very old topic and Anet have given close to zero indication its something they’ll ever do, so really your just holding out against all odds.
Class change? I don’t see that happening. Race change? Maybe.
I suppose if they ever implemented that (race change) the only way to get around the personal story issue would be to completely reset your personal story and allow you to re-choose the race-specific options from character creation? It’s a stretch, but I would think seeing a race change option would be MUCH more likely than an option to change the class of a pre-existing character.
Do not allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good.
No. The wardrobe system is surface level, it doesn’t alleviate any of the issues with race/class changes.
It isn’t possible and it will never happen. It would render the personal story and character creation personality options completely redundant.
If you want to play a different race/class make a new character.
Nothing is impossible. Also I don’t think “redundant” means what you think it means. Yes the personal story is the main issue when considering race changes, but it’s not impossible to create a conversion of (for example) the level 10 Asura personal story quest step in to the level 10 human personal story quest step. Is it worth Anet’s time to program that? Unlikely, but not impossible.
A class change wouldn’t be impossible either. They would just replace your (for example) level 56 necromancer with a level 56 warrior, if that was your choice. Again, the main issue is whether or not Anet feels they could turn a profit by developing that service and selling it to us.
Class change absolutely not. They say never say never, except for class change. That will NEVER happen. Race change could be possible, but is very unlikely, anytime soon at least. At least Cultural Armor is now no longer a problem with the wardrobe. Anything transmuted to cultural is either reverted to original model or straight up deleted off the character, a price to pay for the option.
It isn’t possible and it will never happen. It would render the personal story and character creation personality options completely redundant.
Wait a minute, the personal story and personality options are relevant in some way, shape or form? Since when? They, along with the personal instance are relics of ANet’s initial design philosophy, the one they abandoned some time ago.
Everything that has to do with your character being the hero can be taken out and there would be no change in how the game plays/who plays it.
The real reason class/race changes will never happen is because then people would quit playing earlier. Making another character, getting max lvl, getting map completion, these are all time sinks.
The more time a player sinks into the game, the more likely he is to buy gems.
It’s a business decision, not a gameplay related one. And it is very much possible. Even possible to integrate it within the story/world. But it would require too much work for too little gain on ANet’s part.
I’d like this, I leveled up an ele sylvari, kinda wanting a human instead though.
but I’d settle for being able to buy a gemstore item that lets you level up any class to 80(if you already have that class at 80) or something like that.
I understand it’d cause some trouble with the personal story/home instance..but meh. Sometimes you just get sick of a race and don’t want to level the class all over again just to switch race.
you know, it’s actually pretty easy to do, code wise too.
considering you want to change your race you must agree to the following terms
1/ level 80 , personal story finished
2/your personal story is reseted to 0
3/ once you change your race you get no more rewards from the new personal story considering you got it from your last and it makes no sense , reward wise too, you still are lvl 80 and don’t need low level items, key , a few transmute charges you can skip, thus 0 rewards.
4/ just pick another personal story with no rewards, its a 0 or a 1 option in code
5/ cultural armor can have an npc that trades your previous race armor off you and gives you same tire , same class armor
considering people that want race change care much more about the change than rewards, i don’t see why not
that could work, but it would require work on Anets part.
but i do think they could make some money from this.
5/ cultural armor can have an npc that trades your previous race armor off you and gives you same tire , same class armor
That would be easy to exploit now with the wardrobem so that you just have to buy Cultural Armor for one race, and then chance race and have the next one for free, change race again .. until you have all.
EVERY MMO is awesome until it is released then its unfinished. A month after release it just sucks.
Best MMOs are the ones that never make it. Therefore Stargate Online wins.
5/ cultural armor can have an npc that trades your previous race armor off you and gives you same tire , same class armor
That would be easy to exploit now with the wardrobem so that you just have to buy Cultural Armor for one race, and then chance race and have the next one for free, change race again .. until you have all.
then dont have armour being issue, if you’re wearing cultural armour, you cant change the race of your char til armour is removed/transmuted to something else.
