Guild Wars 2

I know anet probably doesn’t go to the wvw sub forum often since wvw is low on the priority list, so I think it’s best to make a thread here. Please DO NOT PUSH A PATCH OUT ON A RESET NIGHT, ESPECIALLY 1 HOUR AFTER THE RESET. Not only do players have to re-queue, siege are also randomly deleted. It just messes everything up in wvw.

Why can’t the patch be pushed out 1 hour BEFORE RESET? It makes absolutely no sense to push out a patch after the reset.

I heard that there was a bump on the road….

Dear raging gamer,
While I understand your frustration towards the inconveniences that were experienced (alas, my guild was also disrupted by this occurrence) last night after the wvw reset, I feel as though your post was made more out of anger and has no constructive criticism to offer up for proper discussion. Also, your back handed comments are really quite off target and do not represent actual reality, but the twisted one you apparently experience. I hope you get better.

Dear anet pve gamer,

Constructive criticism? Like suggesting a time that makes sense (before reset) to actually do the push? Like also offering reasons why it shouldn’t be done after reset (players re-queuing, lost siege)?

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

Dear raging gamer,
While I understand your frustration towards the inconveniences that were experienced (alas, my guild was also disrupted by this occurrence) last night after the wvw reset, I feel as though your post was made more out of anger and has no constructive criticism to offer up for proper discussion. Also, your back handed comments are really quite off target and do not represent actual reality, but the twisted one you apparently experience. I hope you get better.

I didn’t see much rage. He has a valid point.

Hotfixes are released when they are ready, due to fixing issues that needs fixing.

Or would you be just as keen to have them wait a few days extra with a patch that fixed an issue that made lords permanently immortal in WvW?

lordkrall.7241:

Hotfixes are released when they are ready, due to fixing issues that needs fixing.

Or would you be just as keen to have them wait a few days extra with a patch that fixed an issue that made lords permanently immortal in WvW?

There are many game breaking issues in wvw that do not get patched up immediately. Instead, they are pushed back until normal updates are released.

In the past, players were able to go to certain spots on a tower/keep and be able to jump inside. There were issues with orbs and certain pve items doing insane damage. All of these glitches/bugs were not patched up immediately.

Most recently, there is a bug with a necro heal skill that would allow 1 necro to do as much damage as a ram. Fully upgraded gates were taken down in matter of seconds with a group of necros abusing this glitch. Some servers that abused this glitched saw their scores skyrocketed when the glitch was made public. Anet developers found out about the glitch, and instead of patching it immediately, the fix was put in an update that wouldn’t be pushed out until like a week later.

As you can see, not all game-breaking bugs are prioritized the same..

Drakonis.4579:

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

Dear raging gamer,
While I understand your frustration towards the inconveniences that were experienced (alas, my guild was also disrupted by this occurrence) last night after the wvw reset, I feel as though your post was made more out of anger and has no constructive criticism to offer up for proper discussion. Also, your back handed comments are really quite off target and do not represent actual reality, but the twisted one you apparently experience. I hope you get better.

I didn’t see much rage. He has a valid point.

Dear random citizen,
Thank you for the input. I too feel there was a valid point brought up in the OP’s post, but in a very angry and demeaning manner. I instead like to approach it with a different tone. One that permeates mutual respect between gamer and developer.

PS. Lul

Dear anet pve gamer,

I think any customer would have this tone, when they are ignored and not respected:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Yet-again-a-patch-just-after-reset/first#post3736810

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Wat-anet/first#post3734744

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/archive/suggestions/Stop-pointless-patches-on-WvW-reset-night

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/New-Build-at-Reset

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/archive/suggestions/No-Patches-on-WvW-reset-nights

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Release-Build-NOW-and-NOT-After-Reset

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/New-patch-before-match-resets

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Nice-time-to-set-a-Patch

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Please-give-us-some-advanced-warning-before-patches

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Siege-disappearing-after-todays-patch

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/archive/wintersday/Does-ANet-care-abt-WvW-players

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Patch-and-golems-despawn-lost-lot-of-gold

I hope everyone understands now…

jojojoon.8607:

Dear anet pve gamer,

I think any customer would have this tone, when they are ignored:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Yet-again-a-patch-just-after-reset/first#post3736810

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/archive/suggestions/Stop-pointless-patches-on-WvW-reset-night

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/New-Build-at-Reset

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/archive/suggestions/No-Patches-on-WvW-reset-nights

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Release-Build-NOW-and-NOT-After-Reset

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/New-patch-before-match-resets

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Nice-time-to-set-a-Patch

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Siege-disappearing-after-todays-patch

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Patch-and-golems-despawn-lost-lot-of-gold

I hope everyone understands now…

Alright I see it like this… I feel as though after this has happened as many times as it has, there could possibly an underlying issue that we as players do not know about, and its not really worth the effort to explain to people their reasoning behind it. Or it could be complete ineptitude. Whatever works for me. As I said before, this also effected my guilds raid and we even discussed the silliness behind it. The difference here being we moved on
as people and continued having fun and let it be forgot. Where as you decided to get in a huff and post some pretty idiotic assumptions about how anet “doesn’t go to wvw sub forums” and they have a low priority for wvw. It makes you look like a kittening moron, and does absolutely nothing to address a situation that I feel, regardless if its a minor annoyance, doesn’t deserve much attention. Also, seeing as not much has come from those multitudes of posts, someone at anet probably feels the same way.

“I hope everyone understands now”

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

Alright I see it like this… I feel as though after this has happened as many times as it has, there could possibly an underlying issue that we as players do not know about, and its not really worth the effort to explain to people their reasoning behind it. Or it could be complete ineptitude. Whatever works for me. As I said before, this also effected my guilds raid and we even discussed the silliness behind it. The difference here being we moved on
as people and continued having fun and let it be forgot. Where as you decided to get in a huff and post some pretty idiotic assumptions about how anet “doesn’t go to wvw sub forums” and they have a low priority for wvw. It makes you look like a kittening moron, and does absolutely nothing to address a situation that I feel, regardless if its a minor annoyance, doesn’t deserve much attention. Also, seeing as not much has come from those multitudes of posts, someone at anet probably feels the same way.

“I hope everyone understands now”

Dear angry, disillusioned anet pve gamer:

You’re the FIRST person that I know of who actually thinks that anet cares for wvw as much as they care for pve. I thought it’s already a proven fact that wvw is low on the priority list as compared to pve.

Obviously, it’s not a minor annoyance and a situation that “doesn’t deserve attention” when there are multitudes of posts from many customers expressing their concerns.

Well, maybe those posts didn’t get attention because most are posted in the wvw sub forum which even the anet wvw developer doesn’t go (yes, there are topics about it). That’s why I am trying to see if it would get anet’s attention if I post it here.

jojojoon.8607:

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

Alright I see it like this… I feel as though after this has happened as many times as it has, there could possibly an underlying issue that we as players do not know about, and its not really worth the effort to explain to people their reasoning behind it. Or it could be complete ineptitude. Whatever works for me. As I said before, this also effected my guilds raid and we even discussed the silliness behind it. The difference here being we moved on
as people and continued having fun and let it be forgot. Where as you decided to get in a huff and post some pretty idiotic assumptions about how anet “doesn’t go to wvw sub forums” and they have a low priority for wvw. It makes you look like a kittening moron, and does absolutely nothing to address a situation that I feel, regardless if its a minor annoyance, doesn’t deserve much attention. Also, seeing as not much has come from those multitudes of posts, someone at anet probably feels the same way.

“I hope everyone understands now”

Dear angry, disillusioned anet pve gamer:

You’re the FIRST person that I know of who actually thinks that anet cares for wvw as much as they care for pve. I thought it’s already a proven fact that wvw is low on the priority list as compared to pve.

Obviously, it’s not a minor annoyance and a situation that “doesn’t deserve attention” when there are multitudes of posts from many customers expressing their concerns.

Well, maybe those posts didn’t get attention because most are posted in the wvw sub forum which even the anet wvw developer doesn’t go (yes, there are topics about it). That’s why I am trying to see if it would get anet’s attention if I post it here.

This is good kitten, we should keep going I would like to clarify I am not a “pve gamer”. It kinda hurts my feelings cus, like, I generally wvw and stuff. I also do that spvp kitten (you should see how those guys feel about being rejected by anet, almost makes you wanna cry). My general pve experiences involve getting meta achieves and farming dat dragonite yo. Next, you still sound angry and stuff. I suggest either a few beers or some pot. But don’t do that kitten a lot, it’ll make you dumb. Moving right along here, let’s get to bewhat anet does or does not care about. I still view all of your comments to be convoluted and ignorant in their essence therefore its hard to actually justify your points (save for the original issue of patching the game shortly after reset). Can I also say, this has been really fun so far.

You don’t think the reset affected those doing the LA event or those doing Fractals or Dungeons? It messes with everybody but it’s that Vs busted game play. Yes it was to fix featured PvE content. And sorry to point it out but PvE is the majority of the game and the event is for a limited time and this content concludes a story arc that started over a year ago.

So when would you rather have a reset caused by a patch? A few hours in sounds loads better than after a couple of days. Also remember that ANet work during Pacific Coast time and that it was more important to fix the problem for the current event before the weekend, when nobody wants to work.

Sorry but Jojo you do come off as someone who thinks WvW is more important than the non WvW game that the majority of players are playing. It’s unfortunate that your progress was reset but as I stated at the beginning, so was other non-event content.

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

jojojoon.8607:

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

Alright I see it like this… I feel as though after this has happened as many times as it has, there could possibly an underlying issue that we as players do not know about, and its not really worth the effort to explain to people their reasoning behind it. Or it could be complete ineptitude. Whatever works for me. As I said before, this also effected my guilds raid and we even discussed the silliness behind it. The difference here being we moved on
as people and continued having fun and let it be forgot. Where as you decided to get in a huff and post some pretty idiotic assumptions about how anet “doesn’t go to wvw sub forums” and they have a low priority for wvw. It makes you look like a kittening moron, and does absolutely nothing to address a situation that I feel, regardless if its a minor annoyance, doesn’t deserve much attention. Also, seeing as not much has come from those multitudes of posts, someone at anet probably feels the same way.

“I hope everyone understands now”

Dear angry, disillusioned anet pve gamer:

You’re the FIRST person that I know of who actually thinks that anet cares for wvw as much as they care for pve. I thought it’s already a proven fact that wvw is low on the priority list as compared to pve.

Obviously, it’s not a minor annoyance and a situation that “doesn’t deserve attention” when there are multitudes of posts from many customers expressing their concerns.

Well, maybe those posts didn’t get attention because most are posted in the wvw sub forum which even the anet wvw developer doesn’t go (yes, there are topics about it). That’s why I am trying to see if it would get anet’s attention if I post it here.

This is good kitten, we should keep going I would like to clarify I am not a “pve gamer”. It kinda hurts my feelings cus, like, I generally wvw and stuff. I also do that spvp kitten (you should see how those guys feel about being rejected by anet, almost makes you wanna cry). My general pve experiences involve getting meta achieves and farming dat dragonite yo. Next, you still sound angry and stuff. I suggest either a few beers or some pot. But don’t do that kitten a lot, it’ll make you dumb. Moving right along here, let’s get to bewhat anet does or does not care about. I still view all of your comments to be convoluted and ignorant in their essence therefore its hard to actually justify your points (save for the original issue of patching the game shortly after reset). Can I also say, this has been really fun so far.

Maybe some other time. I’m grabbing lunch right now.

I understand why you would be upset about this but while wvw is permanent content this is the finale of the LS and is only up for 2 weeks so its understandable that when a fix was found it was pushed out asap.

jojojoon.8607:

There are many game breaking issues in wvw that do not get patched up immediately. Instead, they are pushed back until normal updates are released.

In the past, players were able to go to certain spots on a tower/keep and be able to jump inside. There were issues with orbs and certain pve items doing insane damage. All of these glitches/bugs were not patched up immediately.

Most recently, there is a bug with a necro heal skill that would allow 1 necro to do as much damage as a ram. Fully upgraded gates were taken down in matter of seconds with a group of necros abusing this glitch. Some servers that abused this glitched saw their scores skyrocketed when the glitch was made public. Anet developers found out about the glitch, and instead of patching it immediately, the fix was put in an update that wouldn’t be pushed out until like a week later.

As you can see, not all game-breaking bugs are prioritized the same..

You are assuming that everything is as easy to fix. Which is quite clearly not the case.

Another thing is that knee-jerked reactions to PvP-type content is usually not a good idea, and thus they spend a bit extra time to find a good fix for it instead of just doing something superfast that might potentially break stuff even more.