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Posted by: TabMorte.5297

TabMorte.5297

The monthly challenges are supposed to spur you to do something you might not other wise, that’s why there’s always at least one per month that encourages people to explore Dungeons or WvW or in this case Fractals.

You don’t HAVE to get it. It is a nice reward and frankly while I don’t <3 Fractals, it’s worth it for me to do 7 (which is two levels + 1 fractal) to get the jugs of karma + all the loot and XP from the trip. If it’s not for you then just skip it this month. If you get your dailies almost every day you’ll more than make up for it.

Nunna> Btw, lots of people care about other dungeons.

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Posted by: Falcon Night.4653

Falcon Night.4653

Oh, for multitude of reasons:

1. Posting on this thread takes 5 seconds as compared to 15 mins of finding grp and 1 hour of completing the fractals itself (assuming it goes smoothly, I’ve got an ENTIRE party disconnected on the final boss before… it ain’t pretty.)
2. People live in different time zone, have different real world schedules.
3. Do you really expect players who have no interest in dungeon runs in the first place to do fractals run that are meant for the hardcore ‘raider’ groups?

Are they even interested in the rewards that supposedly enable them to ‘run further, higher level content in the fractals?’

Face it, Lost Shores added nothing for the casuals.

1. Agreed. Complaining is by far easier than looking for a solution.
2. I’m pretty sure GW2 has more players than there are timezones in the world. But I might be wrong….
3. Lvl1 fotm is meant for who now?

No, but they might be interested in, say, gold, T6 mats, ectos, exotic gear…

1. Solutions have already been mentioned. Several times in several threads. But no dev seems to be listening. So the complaining.
2. Sure, more players than timezones. Also players from same timezone spread out across different servers. Also, players from same timezones have different playstyles (casual/hardcore/PvP/PvE/solo/group/Dungeon runners/non-Dungeon runners.)
3. Don’t know. Haven’t tried since launch of Fotm. Now everyone seems to be looking for higher level FOTM runs. Seem these people have alot of time on their hands. So your guess is as good as mine.

I recall you can get T6 mats/exotic gear/etc from Orr.

Again, solution:
1. Put Player Invader kills into Monthly PvP
2. Replace Fractals with Dungeon runs. (Any dungeon run.)

These are not the droid you are looking for, move along… → ESO, FireFall, NW :)

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

Some of us don’t have the time to grind 3-4 hours a night doing Fractals.

I play the game for 9 hours a week (MAX) and I was able to accomplish it no problem, hell the people I did it with were all on difficulty 8+ and btw… Getting the monthly, a whopping 7 fractals means clearing 2 difficulties… Seeing as how odd difficulties are composed of 3 fractals and evens are composed of 4…

Idk how you guys are complaining about this…

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Posted by: Conncept.7638

Conncept.7638

Then don’t do it? You guys realize the monthly achievement is entirely optional right? You’re not forced to do it?

Yeah it’s 45000~ karma and 50s, so what. I can’t think of a single reason why you’d need to rely on the karma and silver earned through the monthly. It’s just supposed to be a nice little bonus once a month and that’s all. Key word there being bonus.

Guess what? Playing the game is entirely optional, looking at art is too, listening to music is optional. Entertainment is optional.

So, if every song is terrible, all art is ugly, and no games are fun to play because designers and artists won’t make good ones; we should all just sit down, shut up, and do nothing with our free time?

When something is flawed it needs to be addressed, that is how improvement is made.

The problem with your thinking is that you think are entitled to finish the monthly achievement every month. You are not. It’s a bonus, something above and beyond. If you want it you work for it. Fairly simple concept yet really hard to grasp at the same time.

Nice try using the anti-Obama word of the month, but you should probably know what it means before you attempt to use it. Entitlement is demanding something you have not payed for or earned in any way. I paid for this game with money I spent my time earning. I am not entitled to anything, but I do have full rights to participate in any part of the game without hindrance, not part of it.

Now they are already breaking this stipulation by first adding in a section of the game which is inherently flawed, and they have admitted so publicly on Reddit. But as you said, it’s not a big deal, because I can just avoid it. EXCEPT that they have now required me to play this flawed section of the game in order to participate fully in a completely unrelated section.

Now everybody makes mistakes and I’m, a pretty forgiving person, but when you then limit my ability to enjoy something I have earned by virtue of your mistake, I have a problem with that and I have full rights to express my entirely valid displeasure.

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Posted by: jazzllanna.1278

jazzllanna.1278

It is not the time requirement on the achievement— it is the grouping. I am level 1 I have tried- and will continue to try to get a group- but there are not many people that are level 1. In fact it was stated that even guilds are hard to find groups within themselves because no one wants to back track because they will get left behind.

So what about the new players if this stays on the monthly? Will they be able to find groups in a month for level 1 fractals? It is just going to get harder and harder to start the ladder for fotm. People are not backtracking they want to progress and the people that are level 1 have a hard time catching up so the monthly that should be something to do- becomes impossible to reach. That is all I am saying.

It could take hours to complete- I am fine with that just the grouping has major issues with all the different levels- to have this on the monthly just seems wrong.

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Posted by: kiba.2768

kiba.2768

tbh, i think lvl 1 fotm is easier to lfg than anything in between up to 10.

why? many new alts being created or people trying it out for the first time.
you can run lvl 1 2 times and some change
or you can run 1 + 2 and finish all 7 at once

if time is not an issue, lvl 1 won’t bother you if everyone is new to fotm.
if you are expecting a fast run, then i say good luck. not many lvl 10-30 runners will go back to 1 unless it’s a guildie…sad, but that’s the state of things

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Posted by: IndigoSundown.5419

IndigoSundown.5419

3. Ask in the overflow of LA that you are in
4. Change overflow/or go to real LA and ask again

Laughing out loud while rolling on the floor. Overflow? Haven’t seen one since the day the karka invaded LA. You seem to think everyone is on a populous server. If there was an option to go to the overflow server from my server, that would be nice, but I can’t seem to find that option. The problem you responded to is made worse for people on low-pop servers, who rarely get into an overflow.

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Posted by: ChairGraveyard.2967

ChairGraveyard.2967

I’ve run a boatload of Fractals already. I’m tired of them. I’d rather not have them required for the monthly.

It’s not as if the game needs to encourage FotM over everything else even more than it already does.

The game is already a wasteland aside from Lion’s Arch/FotM spam. We hardly need more reasons for people to ignore everything but FotM.

That is, unless the goal is to kill off the game as fast as possible, in which case, carry on.

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Posted by: gogoapoxy.1425

gogoapoxy.1425

Henge player here.

Finished fractals with my level 32 guardian, formed the group partially with people lfg in la, and partially with gw2lfg.com

Wvw took a lot longer but through focusing on it this weekend was able to finish mapping as well as get my kills.

Over a month you can get 2 kills a day and 1 fractal, meaning not even completing a scale set of three, every 4 days and all quite quickly and easily.

Fotm is also easier than standard dungeons, at least on lower scales. Thus I find this monthly to be rather casual friendly much more so than salvaging 500 items.

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Posted by: Minion of Vey.4398

Minion of Vey.4398

Use gw2lfg.com to get a group.

Complete fractal difficulty 1 and 2.

You’ll have completed the fractal portion of the monthly.

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Posted by: fellyn.5083

fellyn.5083

Then don’t do it? You guys realize the monthly achievement is entirely optional right? You’re not forced to do it?

Yeah it’s 45000~ karma and 50s, so what. I can’t think of a single reason why you’d need to rely on the karma and silver earned through the monthly. It’s just supposed to be a nice little bonus once a month and that’s all. Key word there being bonus.

Guess what? Playing the game is entirely optional, looking at art is too, listening to music is optional. Entertainment is optional.

So, if every song is terrible, all art is ugly, and no games are fun to play because designers and artists won’t make good ones; we should all just sit down, shut up, and do nothing with our free time?

When something is flawed it needs to be addressed, that is how improvement is made.

The problem with your thinking is that you think are entitled to finish the monthly achievement every month. You are not. It’s a bonus, something above and beyond. If you want it you work for it. Fairly simple concept yet really hard to grasp at the same time.

Nice try using the anti-Obama word of the month, but you should probably know what it means before you attempt to use it. Entitlement is demanding something you have not payed for or earned in any way. I paid for this game with money I spent my time earning. I am not entitled to anything, but I do have full rights to participate in any part of the game without hindrance, not part of it.

Now they are already breaking this stipulation by first adding in a section of the game which is inherently flawed, and they have admitted so publicly on Reddit. But as you said, it’s not a big deal, because I can just avoid it. EXCEPT that they have now required me to play this flawed section of the game in order to participate fully in a completely unrelated section.

Now everybody makes mistakes and I’m, a pretty forgiving person, but when you then limit my ability to enjoy something I have earned by virtue of your mistake, I have a problem with that and I have full rights to express my entirely valid displeasure.

So let me get this straight. You paid for the game (as we all did) so you are automatically entitled to have everything in the game without putting in a little effort to get it? And instead of putting in that little bit of effort you spend your time complaining on the forums because you are lazy? Am I painting the picture correctly here?

“Entitlement is demanding something you have not payed for or earned in any way.”

Point in case. You did not earn the monthly achievement because in fact…you didn’t earn it. Buying the game in no way shape or form means you automatically get handed loot for no reason once a month. lol

I understand the levels of fractals are broken and hugely segregating the in game community but that is beside the point. That’s an entirely separate issue that has nothing to do with the monthly achievement. It could have just as easily been “finish 7 different dungeon paths” and people would still complain. “wah wah I hate dungeons don’t make me do them change it now Anet!!!!”

Look, I get what you’re saying and oridnarily I would agree with you. Hell I’ve even used the same arguments you did when talking about precursors in the crafting section. But what you are asking for in this case just doesn’t make sense because it’s a BONUS as opposed to something the entire end game revolves around.


noun, plural bo·nus·es.
1. something given or paid over and above what is due.
2. a sum of money granted or given to an employee, a returned soldier, etc., in addition to regular pay, usually in appreciation for work done, length of service, accumulated favors, etc.
3. something free, as an extra dividend, given by a corporation to a purchaser of its securities.
4. a premium paid for a loan, contract, etc.
5. something extra or additional given freely: Every purchaser of a pound of coffee received a box of cookies as a bonus.

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Posted by: Nicklin.3168

Nicklin.3168

Everything aside, I would just like to be able to FIND a group to run fractals with. If you didn’t frenzy the first few days it was out, and do nothing but run fractals over and over, you can’t find a group now. I keep getting supressed trying to find groups because I am still low level, and have to spam for hours to get anything going.

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Posted by: Gele.2048

Gele.2048

http://www.gw2lfg.com/ USe this web site u gona find party in 2 sek after poust !!!

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Posted by: jazzllanna.1278

jazzllanna.1278

Well i am going to try again tonight but as stated a few times I did post on gw2lfg.com and had no responses. There are not many looking for level 1 there either.

Worse comes to worse I can’t get the monthly this month.. but please please please do not make this an every month achievement