I know burning is currently the most op thing in game, and I know it must be nerfed in order to balance the game. But please do not over nerf it, we engie player been waiting to play condi engie in pve for a long time, and I am really afraid that Anet will nerf burning to the point it’s not viable again.
honestly, they shouldn’t nerf burns…just how some classes apply them.
but this is Anet balance…..reducing the damage formula is way easier than balancing how each class applies it.
so instead of editing a few traits/skills per class every month or 2 to get it in line, they’ll just nerf the damage of the condition and call it fixed.
Chaos Organ (Ele), Pistol Opera (Thief), Modular Man (Eng)
MARA (EU) Gunnar’s Hold
If anything, they need to buff bleeding so it isn’t totally overshadowed by burning, and rather than nerf anything, buff mob and boss HP scaling. This will also have the added affect of not affecting PvP balance, where conditions really haven’t been shown to be a problem yet.
I don´t feel doing high condition damage unless i go for some crazy burning stacks. The thing is condi damage is not stronger after the patch, the stacking of burning is. Bleeding is about the same and not realy good but when you do 10+ stacks of burning it hurts and fire eles can do that very well.
I woul wish for better bleeding damage and more balanced burn stacking. Not the burn damage is the problem, its the stacking some can do.
Elementalists should have the best access to burn, bar none. I mean, come on.
That said, IMO Ele burns are in a good place right now. To stack them to ridiculous numbers requires people to stand in Flamewall/cross Ring of Fire constantly. There is now also a bigger penalty for not cleansing Drake’s Breath immediately (rather than facetanking it and cleaning it later.) Fire Aura is actually mildly threatening now. Dragon’s Tooth has an obvious windup. And Signet of Fire has a cast time.
There is counterplay to Ele burns, and they should NOT be nerfed.
Well burning was absolutely useless on guards prior this update. It was something that just happened as you did your normal rotations. Guards dont have access to any other decent condi. At least now their ONE and ONLY condi does something.
Your typical average gamer -
“Buff my main class, nerf everything else. "
Burning isn’t as easy to stack as other conditions so a nerf isn’t really necessary. To hyper stack it, you need to trait to do so, and even then, most classes can’t sustain it. The problem lies when like 50 people apply it at once, then it becomes OP.
For world bosses and champs, if it’s nerfed, the physical damage will still drop them relatively quickly anyway. For WvW, zergs still die quicker to physical damage bursts. In Spvp, use condition clear.
Conditions that previously used to stack in duration rather than in intensity, should now stack in intesity 1 stack per single player/npc source, while your single personal stack of burning can stack in duration.
Maybe this is hard to program, I’m not a programmer, but logic says its clear as the sky that it should work this way. I even thought it would have worked this way before the patch, I can’t understand how they could have not predicted this mess before the release!
If you happy wanna be,
against the wind you won’t have to pee.
(Elementalist wisdom)
For every burn skill multiply it by 3, then ask yourself if that was any other damaging condition if it wouldn’t be nerfed instantly.
Burning used to be special and allowed to have high dps because you couldn’t burst with it, now you can. Stacking burn as a group was never a thing in pvp before. Guardian, Ele, Engineer, and Warrior spraying fire everywhere is too much.
Elementalists should have the best access to burn, bar none. I mean, come on.
That said, IMO Ele burns are in a good place right now. To stack them to ridiculous numbers requires people to stand in Flamewall/cross Ring of Fire constantly. There is now also a bigger penalty for not cleansing Drake’s Breath immediately (rather than facetanking it and cleaning it later.) Fire Aura is actually mildly threatening now. Dragon’s Tooth has an obvious windup. And Signet of Fire has a cast time.
There is counterplay to Ele burns, and they should NOT be nerfed.
No way, I’m an Ele main, but my main build for every one of my characters but two are condition builds, and guardians should have the best access to burning. We have two damaging conditions for a reason, we should be reliant on burning and bleeding and be required to use our attunement system for our condition builds rather than just camping fire. But the problem is just as much that bleeding sucks as it is that burning is currently overtuned.
I don’ t have much problem with burning itself – maybe the numbers are a bit too high, but it’ s fine because it opens possibility to actually have a burst based condi, and it’ s not that bad ( like traited fear for the necromancer).
However, i tought that Anet would have changed the burning duration for all his applications, since it started out as duration stack and has such high power.
