Please fix guild bank/treasure trove

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Posted by: Brutal Augus.5917

Brutal Augus.5917

Please fix the guild bank so that we can stack items without having to withdraw the already deposited amount to add to it.

Example:
I have 100 orichalcum ore in guild bank. I have another 100 I’d like to add to it. When I drag the 100 from my inventory to the 100 in guild bank, the box turns red
denying me from adding them together. This forces me to drag the already deposited amount into my inventory and combine from there.

I know this isn’t that big of a deal, but please fix.

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Posted by: Nike.2631

Nike.2631

It IS a big deal and that’s why its not going not happen. Mixing numbers inside the shared space is a recipe for disaster with people doing all kinds of multi-player pushes and pulls that result in extra items being created or Support wrestling with tickets over items being destroyed.

“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

Lord Kuru.3685

It IS a big deal and that’s why its not going not happen. Mixing numbers inside the shared space is a recipe for disaster with people doing all kinds of multi-player pushes and pulls that result in extra items being created or Support wrestling with tickets over items being destroyed.

What happens right now if you’re viewing your guild bank and someone else withdraws a stack of items while you’re viewing?

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Posted by: Brutal Augus.5917

Brutal Augus.5917

It IS a big deal and that’s why its not going not happen. Mixing numbers inside the shared space is a recipe for disaster with people doing all kinds of multi-player pushes and pulls that result in extra items being created or Support wrestling with tickets over items being destroyed.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean. Are you saying that if I were able to add to the stack inside guild bank it would somehow be manipulated into creating extra items? I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just asking for clarification.

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

Lord Kuru.3685

It IS a big deal and that’s why its not going not happen. Mixing numbers inside the shared space is a recipe for disaster with people doing all kinds of multi-player pushes and pulls that result in extra items being created or Support wrestling with tickets over items being destroyed.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean. Are you saying that if I were able to add to the stack inside guild bank it would somehow be manipulated into creating extra items? I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just asking for clarification.

He’s saying you have to be a bit careful programming something where two users might modify a single piece of data “simultaneously.” If precautions are not taken you can have items disappear, duping, etc.

But this is a very standard and well-known programming issue that IMO should not be a barrier to doing what is proposed in the OP.

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Posted by: Brutal Augus.5917

Brutal Augus.5917

It IS a big deal and that’s why its not going not happen. Mixing numbers inside the shared space is a recipe for disaster with people doing all kinds of multi-player pushes and pulls that result in extra items being created or Support wrestling with tickets over items being destroyed.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean. Are you saying that if I were able to add to the stack inside guild bank it would somehow be manipulated into creating extra items? I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just asking for clarification.

He’s saying you have to be a bit careful programming something where two users might modify a single piece of data “simultaneously.” If precautions are not taken you can have items disappear, duping, etc.

But this is a very standard and well-known programming issue that IMO should not be a barrier to doing what is proposed in the OP.

Oh, I see. Thank you for clarifying : )

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Posted by: Nike.2631

Nike.2631

Sorry, yes I was a bit unclear. You guild bank already runs a little slower than your personal bank because its trying to avoid mishaps where two people try to pull out the same item at nearly the same instant. You can’t manipulate partial stacks inside the shared space as much to avoid items being lost/destroyed as to prevent duplicating items. When two people try to add 50 items to an exiting stack of 200 items at the same time in an otherwise full bank where does the second set of 50 items go…? Straight to Support’s complaints to-do list .

There may be more elegant solutions, but the one they settled on is one of the simplest – the ONLY transactions allowed are move entire stack in or pull entire stack out. The resulting bookkeeping is a lot simpler than safeguarding against multi-user corner-cases both accidental and deliberate.

“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.

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Posted by: Brutal Augus.5917

Brutal Augus.5917

Sorry, yes I was a bit unclear. You guild bank already runs a little slower than your personal bank because its trying to avoid mishaps where two people try to pull out the same item at nearly the same instant. You can’t manipulate partial stacks inside the shared space as much to avoid items being lost/destroyed as to prevent duplicating items. When two people try to add 50 items to an exiting stack of 200 items at the same time in an otherwise full bank where does the second set of 50 items go…? Straight to Support’s complaints to-do list .

There may be more elegant solutions, but the one they settled on is one of the simplest – the ONLY transactions allowed are move entire stack in or pull entire stack out. The resulting bookkeeping is a lot simpler than safeguarding against multi-user corner-cases both accidental and deliberate.

I see. That makes a lot of sense actually.

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Posted by: Mazreal Blackknight.1564

Mazreal Blackknight.1564

Or …or guilds could have better communications my guild anyone can add stuff but only our GM and officers can get stuff out. We have our guild chat up at all times plus email one another when anything is removed or someone is going to be in it. Officers that is…