Guild Wars 2

People have had this discussion before…

As with those old discussions, the holding stance when just standing and holding the greatsword looks and is actual way to hold it.

Female Sylvari, Human and Norn Greatsword melee Auto-attack animations are plain crap.
Norns have abit better ones, stronger moves for the 2 first AAs and overhead strike on third, while Human and Sylvari have what looks like struggling to lift swipes and lift swipe.

It looks to me like: they didn’t bother to improve their physical strength at all and just grabbed the greatsword, for sake of “being lady-like”…

Although it would be “females have less strength than males” but they could have abit better ones…
Atleast if the animations would be based on real life average weights of two handed swords, which is about 1.1-1.8 kilograms or 2.4-4.0 pounds (which ever measurement units you use), which shouldn’t be that heavy for a trained strong woman to swing it (fantasy world warriors would clearly have more strength, due to physical training obviously, even if they’re women).

Although it wouldn’t make sense for scholar professions, but then again, they could be imbuing some form of magic to strengthen them when using the Greatsword. Mesmers clearly utilize magic to help them lift it, Necromancers would propably with some necromantic strength and etc.

2.4 pounds for a longsword as it says on wikipedia. Greatswords in the game are much bigger than that.

Regardless, female human mesmers do use magic to wield it. Just watch the animation sometime; the only time the sword is physically held is while not attacking.

My female human war holding a twilight, its as heavy as a couple million of galaxys together. How is she able to swing that kind of heavyness with 100b + frenzy? This is madness

FrostSpectre.4198:

Atleast if the animations would be based on real life average weights of two handed swords, which is about 1.1-1.8 kilograms or 2.4-4.0 pounds (which ever measurement units you use), which shouldn’t be that heavy for a trained strong woman to swing it (fantasy world warriors would clearly have more strength, due to physical training obviously, even if they’re women).

You’re ignoring the fact that greatswords (and every other weapon, for that matter) in GW2 range anywhere from two to five times the size of their real life counterparts. If we’re going to base animations on “real life” weights, then the female animation is just fine because GW2 swords are ridiculously oversized and impractically heavy.

Female norn shouldn’t even be mentioned here, their animations and stances are the best out of all the human/norn/sylvari genders after they changed GS for them the first time.

Female norn warriors with GS annoy me enough to not use GS or to gender swap.

Female Charr mesmers are awsome, that one handed pewpew on side stance looks wicked

Female Norn animations are sooooo much better than Human / Sylvari. Right now the AA animations really do just look like my female human has no control over her weapon, and can barely pick it up. And then I use 100b…

So yes, I wish my female human looked like she used her great sword more deliberately as opposed to the “HNNNGGG I JUST GOTTA PICK IT UP AND HOPE IT CONNECTS!” AA that we have. Extremely unlikely though.

In my opinion, the auto-attack animations of the greatsword are in a good place.
On females it looks a bit strange, but the last blow does not seem so unrealistic. Speaking from the stance, a blow from below can be deadly, too.
The auto-attack on female Norn may be unrealistic, but indicates the power of their race. And it harmonises with the male counterpart, who is wielding his greatsword with only one hand.

Hoaxintelligence.4628:

My female human war holding a twilight, its as heavy as a couple million of galaxys together. How is she able to swing that kind of heavyness with 100b + frenzy? This is madness

It may explain why 100b has a channeling duration and a cool down.

yea man, people have been complaining for years…

and even the holding stance is not right. if you look closely, it doesn’t resemble the “trained swordsman stance” but rather it resembles a weakling struggling to hold the greatsword. that is no trained stance at all.

Agreed. The animations are beyond horrible. Which is quite frankly astonishing, given the immense attention to detail ANet put into things like critter death animations. But the female GS animations makes me…well, use another weapon. I just can’t bear looking at them. My norn ranger is swinging her GS like a baseball bat. Even neglecting the total ridiculousness that is swinging a GS one-handed, the animation doesn’t look fluid at all.
But like others said already – this has been pointed out time and again for an absolute eternity, but ANet doesn’t seem to care. So I wouldn’t hold my breath for seeing it improved.

Eh. I actually like them.

I don’t enjoy my Syl’s animations for basic attack with GS AA as a mesmer. It just kinda o.O bobs between my hands. But I’m not much of a stickler about it. More so the noise if anything. xD chinggggggzingzingzingzingshhpsshhh

I love the female gs animation. I have the shortest, skinniest human females, & they should look like they’re lugging around a huge, heavy weapon.
They’re kind of like suprising little underdogs, that pack a punch.

I hate the way female humanoids wield greatswords. I wish they’d do it more like the males do, or sling them over their shoulders like asura, or something.

FrostSpectre.4198:

People have had this discussion before…

Atleast if the animations would be based on real life average weights of two handed swords, which is about 1.1-1.8 kilograms or 2.4-4.0 pounds (which ever measurement units you use), which shouldn’t be that heavy for a trained strong woman to swing it (fantasy world warriors would clearly have more strength, due to physical training obviously, even if they’re women).

humm.. nope a real life 2H sword would be about 30 pounds at least. I’ve seen he heaviest 2h sword go close to 100 pounds

Go look up some videos of real blacksmiths crafting fantasy swords from fiction, including comics, anime, video games, etc. Those swords can end up being pretty heavy!

Not sure what the big deal is. Just because a female is wielding it so that it looks like the weapon has weight doesn’t change the fact it functions mechanically the same for any race or gender. As for the animation of the swings, GS in general feels pretty stiff to me. It’s not as fluid of a weapon as dagger or sword.

IEatCabbage.1907:

FrostSpectre.4198:

People have had this discussion before…

Atleast if the animations would be based on real life average weights of two handed swords, which is about 1.1-1.8 kilograms or 2.4-4.0 pounds (which ever measurement units you use), which shouldn’t be that heavy for a trained strong woman to swing it (fantasy world warriors would clearly have more strength, due to physical training obviously, even if they’re women).

humm.. nope a real life 2H sword would be about 30 pounds at least. I’ve seen he heaviest 2h sword go close to 100 pounds

Was it a replica of Guts’ sword from Berserk?

I’ll just leave this bit of reading here, where museums that have actual historical two-handed swords don’t have anything above 12 pounds.

Fermi.2409:

Eh. I actually like them.

It’s funny because I personally think female GS animations are the best ones.

Much better than the broom up the butt animations of male characters.

EDIT : hmmm yeah, I only took in account the posing while weilding and standing with GS (since I don’t really roll female characters except for an ele). I just watched a video of a female reaper, and YEAH it’s true, female auto-attack with GS is pretty bad. My bad

Have you ever noticed your Human Mesmer face everytime she uses an ability?
For example the first GS skill , take a few sec and zoom in and check your characters face.
If you cant let me show you…take a look at the screenshot….thats the reason i rerolled an asura mesmer and stopped playing my human.Except the fact she was dragging and lifting something that felt like it weight 69tons , she was heavily constipated while doing that too >_>

Im sorry but im one of those that actually look at their character when they cast or move in general and i didnt like what i saw. Personal preference sue me. Asuras face does not change when they use their skills and they lift that Eternity like a boss on their backs w/o problems and go like "Go ahead! Hit me!

Mai.3590:

Have you ever noticed your Human Mesmer face everytime she uses an ability?
For example the first GS skill , take a few sec and zoom in and check your characters face.
If you cant let me show you…take a look at the screenshot….thats the reason i rerolled an asura mesmer and stopped playing my human.Except the fact she was dragging and lifting something that felt like it weight 69tons , she was heavily constipated while doing that too >_>

Im sorry but im one of those that actually look at their character when they cast or move in general and i didnt like what i saw. Personal preference sue me. Asuras face does not change when they use their skills and they lift that Eternity like a boss on their backs w/o problems and go like "Go ahead! Hit me!

That is definitely Hershey Highway face. lool

Stances and auto attack animations i feel should be part of character creation because right now as it stands I personally cant stand the way the human male holds and especially runs with a GS. Its like they’re playing baseball and running with the bat in the most telegraphed ‘’im coming at you and im gonna hit you with this unprofessionally. ’’ pose

for me :

best holding stance goes to human female
best running with goes to asura
best auto attack also goes to asura

worst standing human male
worst running, human male. ( charr kinda looks akward 2 leg running imo too )
worst auto , human female

Apparently having a kitten means you should look weak and pretty.

i wish they’d design and sell new animations on the gem store but that might not work well with their design philosophy on wanting players to be able to see telegraphs from enemy players and react accordingly

i dislike a lot of the attack animations in general and want some variety to choose from

IEatCabbage.1907:

humm.. nope a real life 2H sword would be about 30 pounds at least. I’ve seen he heaviest 2h sword go close to 100 pounds

Uh what. The greatsword he uses in this video, which looks a bit like gallant greatsword, weighs 3,5kg (~7,8 pounds): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTXjcg0S_PI