Post 80: my opinion

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Posted by: Revolution.6301

Revolution.6301

I love that this game is the way it is. Once I’ve leveled a couple alts and gotten bored with all there is to do I can do something else, play something else. Now people will argue that therein lies the flaw, but I say it is the exact opposite.

Edit: They could even have different jobs people could do in zones as well. Someone could be a tax collector and in order to keep that job they would have to visit villages and farms etc in the zone they are responsible and bring in so much a month or whatever. This would also give people reason to revisit zones where they have cleared it 100%. Maybe the player could trigger DE’s occasionally as well. Maybe they get jumped by bandits and they can appeal to people in the zone to fight them off or risk losing the taxes collected and possibly their job.
So many other games out there are what everyone is used to in an MMO. Hit 80, gear up to hit harder content to get gear to hit harder content and so on and so forth. PvP if that is your thing.

GW2 lets me be as committed or non committed as my desire to play is. I don’t feel like I need to be on for so many hours a day to get something done. I’m usually doing what I want to do except when I am doing dailies, and I enjoy those as well – it gives me a daily goal that I can bang out in under 30 minutes if I want, but usually I just complete it by playing the game.

I think people have a hard time accepting that it’s ok to run out of things to do and play something else. This is a game that will be constantly changing and having things added so there will always be a reason to keep booting it up if you take a break.

If that’s not what you want, there are a lot of MMO’s out there that subscribe to the normal style so play those if that is really what you are looking for!

I know, you want this game to have it all, but it can’t. None of them do.

The very problem is though that that so many areas are blank with nothing to do. Honestly, there is no reason to visit any main city other then la once you have the map completition done. Taverns that have no purpse, they exist for the sake of existing. And again just add rewards to jp which is so so so easy to do then suddently you have reused an old machenic and people are actually doing it!

Who else thinks this is a good idea?

I can see some upsides to that. Maybe they could add in some political or social benefits as well. Run for different offices, have elections, have player owned taverns or something. That would give people reason to be in the towns more.

Edit: Perhaps players could also have jobs such as tax collector and they could be responsible for a certain zone. They would need to bring in so much money a week/month in taxes or risk losing their position to someone else. This would give people reason to go to zones they have already completed 100%.

Maybe the players could also have a chance to trigger DE’s as well. Say the tax collector gets besieged by bandits and the player can appeal to people in the zone to come to his aid or risk losing the taxes collected and then probably his job as well if he doesn’t get assistance.

Thats a start but require a huge overhall. What are small things do you think can be done?

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Posted by: Poledo.3256

Poledo.3256

Some small things I can think of would really depend on how Anet is staffed. One thing that I miss in MMO’s is something I have not really seen since the days of EQ. Live GM run events.

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Posted by: Bloodstealer.5978

Bloodstealer.5978

I truly had a blast up to lv 80, heck even doing the terribley written story was fun. The way the quests worked, DE worked was just amazing compared to almost any other mmo. I understand why the game got an 8ish out of 10.

Then came 80.

Honestly there isn’t alot to do. Once you finished up heart quests, finish the jumping puzzles there isn’t alot to do. You can play pvp, but imo pvp in Gw2 is boring compared to Gw1 due to a lack of builds you can create.

So your only choices are:

Dungeon grinding which involves:
1. Making money
2. Grinding for skins

And the same goes for any farming such as Orr Tunnel.

You can get legendary weapons but its just not possible for most players to ever see. The prec. weapons are getting more and more expensive, and getting the clovers becomes funny when you just can’t get them.

Really it just seems like there is nothing to do other then try and get skins. You can argue that you can make a new character but people who work/university lack the time. Of course its possible but some are not willing to put another 80 hours into it. And the story isn’t like Gw1 story where you actually cared about the character and did the with the Salad Man would die. But seriously why couldn’t Trahearne just die. But thats another argument.

Point is it would be nice to see other things to do. Even new places to grind would nice. And fixing WvW and making it as worth it as playing PvE would help.

What do you all think?

I find this post extremely contradictory (bolded for context). It seems you refuse to do things which are available, but yet complain about the lack of things to do.

When you stated that people would lack the time due to work/university to do certain things, you imply that there is too much to do.

When the main carrot on a stick of the game is horizontal progression, there isn’t a lot that you can compensate with. That’s the main motivation for everyone to play. Unless you go with vertical progression, which judging by other posts is something you’re blatantly against, so that would be extremely self-contradictory.

More so, this game is 6 months old. For the content which is available, I don’t think there’s anything to complain about. Heck, I poured 500 hours+ into this game, and I still haven’t completed half the stuff yet. If anything, the only people complaining would be those who had the time to do everything. That’s another contradiction by the way.

My opinion? I think pre-80 is the boring part. I don’t like leveling my alts as much as playing on my level 80s.

Given by other posts you’ve made, you seem to be the type who only complains for the sake of complaining. All in all however, it seems like this game isn’t the type for you. Comparing GW2 with GW1 isn’t a very good comparison by the way. GW1 is rather different.

I think you hit the nail on the head.. +1 for your efforts.

However, sit back and expect the barrage of “ad hominem”, logical fallacies cos your not offering any kind of acceptance to the OP’s subjective opinions.

I actually do enjoy levelling my Alts but only in so much as to learn their strengths and weaknesses until I settle on a build I am happy with (which normally takes me a looooong time )
After that its all about mindset for me so I dabble in a litle WvW and sometimes a bit of PvP (I suck bad at it so I keep it to a minimum… I dont like feeling like a pin cushion!)
I try to dabble in all the game has to offer including crafting, TP, JP’s and even a little grinding when I want to so that it keeps things a little less repetitious, and for me it works.

Your spot on in saying its only 6 months old and the games content base was pretty good imo and that there has been a reasonable amount of additional content, mechanics and events added on a regualr basis – - not all of the highest quality and some a little out of sync with the original mandate I agree, but what many seem to forget is that its also a business behind the pixels and with it comes the need to change, alter redirect so that it can keep hooking in the masses not just a small demographic. Considering its a F2P game at heart I think they have given much more away to its player base than many other MMO’s have/do. Problem is some players cant shift their goals or mindests to enable them to enjoy the game for what it is… and like you say some just like to comaplin for the sake of complaining rather than actually logging in and utilise their apparent limited time (in game rather than on the forums).

(edited by Bloodstealer.5978)

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Posted by: Kilger.5490

Kilger.5490

Could use something more to spend skill points on, would make all those extra dings past 80 worth something. Not talking about mystic forge or crafting related spending, stuff that makes your character more diverse like picking abilites from another class (at much higher cost and have longer cooldown or something) or advanced class… something along that line. Titles perhaps. Fluff or horizontal growth stuff.

Kilger – Human Ranger
alts: Fangyre (Necro), Hardrawk (Ele);
Jade Quarry

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Posted by: Poledo.3256

Poledo.3256

Could use something more to spend skill points on, would make all those extra dings past 80 worth something. Not talking about mystic forge or crafting related spending, stuff that makes your character more diverse like picking abilites from another class (at much higher cost and have longer cooldown or something) or advanced class… something along that line. Titles perhaps. Fluff or horizontal growth stuff.

That would be great. Trading them for coin would be nice as well.

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Posted by: Revolution.6301

Revolution.6301

Could use something more to spend skill points on, would make all those extra dings past 80 worth something. Not talking about mystic forge or crafting related spending, stuff that makes your character more diverse like picking abilites from another class (at much higher cost and have longer cooldown or something) or advanced class… something along that line. Titles perhaps. Fluff or horizontal growth stuff.

That would be great. Trading them for coin would be nice as well.

thats a great idea, I support that too.

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Posted by: Bloodstealer.5978

Bloodstealer.5978

Could use something more to spend skill points on, would make all those extra dings past 80 worth something. Not talking about mystic forge or crafting related spending, stuff that makes your character more diverse like picking abilites from another class (at much higher cost and have longer cooldown or something) or advanced class… something along that line. Titles perhaps. Fluff or horizontal growth stuff.

Have to agree…. with around 230 points now sitting on my Ele… what’s the point of it… need ways to utilise them for sure, but maybe somewhere down the line they will develop a host of Elite skills when future content demands a power shift upwards, who knows but at the moment all they do for me is gather dust.

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Posted by: Red Falcon.8257

Red Falcon.8257

With the new down leveling and the rewards that scale to lvl, there is no reason not to- you even get salvages for your level.
Really Tyria is your oyster

I’ve yet to see that system in place.
But even if rewards were to be -all- scaled to 80 (which I doubt), there should be something pushing us to those zones.
I.E. why can’t dailies send you to 3-4 different maps to complete events, instead of giving you fetch quests?

Until I see a proper system that rewards players from going back, Tyria is just a place to level up and abandon.