Guild Wars 2

With the upcoming changes to rewards along with the class balances, PvP has a second chance to stand out… People after having done everything in PvE now they`ll have to Rank up and perfect their PvP abilities, which will take a lot of time and is very fun and enjoyable for many of the players… this along with new PvP maps/modes, WvW, LS and fractals i think can become a good start for an interesting endgame for a range of different player types…
Whats your opinion?

It really just means that PvP is going to get an influx of PvE players who have no idea what they’re doing and just try for ‘top score’, ignoring the actual goal of the map and causing their team to lose over and over, then getting frustrated and going back to PvE.

It would be nice if more people did PvP of course, but for what seems like a majority of people it’s not really a big draw. Probably not helped by the fact balance is so, so bad among the classes it’s almost laughable (the exact classes change with the patches). Many PvP players are also more than a little miffed at how Anet seems to ignore people who exploit in PvP for stupidly high gains that would otherwise take a year-ish to earn with high-levels of play time, sort of causing many people to just drop from PvP as it is.

Lady Azjurai.3078:

It really just means that PvP is going to get an influx of PvE players who have no idea what they’re doing and just try for ‘top score’, ignoring the actual goal of the map and causing their team to lose over and over, then getting frustrated and going back to PvE.

Were we not all this at one point? We all start somewhere. Look at WvW, we got a huge influx of PvEers, and now the PvEers have mostly left. Now, servers have tons of new core WvW players (at least a lot of them do). If this change is anything like leagues, PvEers will come in for their chieves, and PvPers will come out. That’s good for everyone if it happens.

I’m sad, common sense updates make me sad.

imagine how great this game would be if you could progress the way you wanted. Imagine being able to buy ascended gear with badges, glory, or karma. Imagine being able to buy a precursor for 2 million karma or 1000 of each dungeon. token. Imagine how popular and vibrant the game would be again. Imagine if gem store wasn’t the only concern.

See now I’m sad...

Peetee.9406:

I’m sad, common sense updates make me sad.

imagine how great this game would be if you could progress the way you wanted. Imagine being able to buy ascended gear with badges, glory, or karma. Imagine being able to buy a precursor for 2 million karma or 1000 of each dungeon. token. Imagine how popular and vibrant the game would be again. Imagine if gem store wasn’t the only concern.

See now I’m sad…

I know what you mean, but hey, thats Anet

Look at the spvp forums. They’re fairly toxic. There is saying, “If you sit in a barber shop long enough, you’ll get a hair cut.” There is some unhealthy elements that come with PvP from the competition of it. The sense of us vs them is missing in my opinion because your team is divided across three different nodes. It also has to be mentioned that many of the senior players have a poor attitude towards newer players. You can see this also in the forums, “I don’t want them in my team.” It won’t take long before new players coming to PvP realise their preferred builds they have come to know well in PvE just won’t work in PvP and that a large segment of the community move from flavor of the month optimised builds to whatever the latest is. This tends to cause discontent and players seek to have these builds nerfed. The cherry on top is when development staff release nerfs for reasons and facts that when tested don’t hold up at all. The latest is the nerf to warrior longbow and how much adrenaline it can produce. When tested by players the longbow produces no adrenaline at all at stage 3..so why is it being nerfed again?..because players have simply decided they hate playing against and that’s all. The developers try to keep some communication and encourage people to give solid feedback..and in the case of the longbow incident, people have given this feedback and it has gone unanswered, yet if you QQ too much about it all being a pointless nerf, you’re given an infraction. Over time numerous players with good knowledge of gaming have highlight what is good and what is bad and most have been infracted to the point they can no longer post, despite players supporting what they’ve said. This year alone many high rank players who posted great build suggestions etc have just disappeared and the climax of the PaX tournament only really produced the term ,“Petting zoo.” to give a general handle to the loads of AI controlled builds currently running.

I do believe the staff have the best intentions for PvP, but their division of the work place resource is greatly smaller than PvE and gemstore and they constantly have more work than time which shows when nerfs get released on a build that was popular and dominating 2 months ago and already the moving masses have moved on.

Certainly a good cure is the ol’ bums on seats when it comes to PvP. The larger the player base the better. A lot of the under the hood mechanics would work better with larger numbers (Like how tournaments are matched up) But I do worry if newer players can handle the toxicity the pvp community generates at times. The latest hate is all bout wanting gold and this and that and how their PvP should be rewarded the same as players who run fractals/dungeons/living story..yet they don’t want to involve themselves in that diversity, they just wanna sit in PvP and have everything bought to them.

I tried PvP a couple times, I’m not a big fan. Maybe when they start adding more types of PvP like death matches and duels and such I will find it more interesting.