Guild Wars 2

Hello forum, with the new post on the upcoming changes to the minipet system, what is going to happen to the unfinished progress of the current minipet achievement track?

I’m still currently working on completing the series 3 minipet collection (45/49). Will we still be able to complete this tracks or are they going to be removed and replaced OR overwritten with the new achievement (account bound into wardrobe) track?

Are the old minipets achievements tracks (Miniature Collection – Set I, II and III) still obtainable and able to progress after the feature patch? It would be upsetting if players progress on these tracks get halted permanently and are unable to finish them.

It would be nice if someone from Anet could answer my question, thank you.

+1 to this question.

This is a good question that would be nice to have answered before any market action is taken on minis.

Are these new achievements achievable again for new AP, will people that have finished them grandfather into the new achievements and just not have the minis unlocked if they already sold them, or will AP actually be lost if we collected them and sold them after the achievement was completed?

Personally, I think the most fair thing to do would be to grandfather people with the achievements into the new ones with the same AP, but if they have sold them not have them available in the wardrobe.

On the flip side, wouldn’t mind collecting them again for new AP.

But, it would be upsetting if people would lose AP for not having them any more since this was something nobody knew about or could predict.

That is why those Blog hype post sucks and kitten people off.

They release some info but left so many question unanswered.

The old achievements need to be grandfathered into the new achievements. It it not fair to change the rules on the achievements now that most of the mini can no longer be obtainable. I sold all my old mini believing that I did not need them anymore for the achievements at a gold lost because the prices just kept dropping. Now the prices have jump to over 300% of what they were.
When series 4 hits, it is ok that it uses the new system because it have it after the change. But now it is unfair for those who got the achievement, and now won’t get the new one because you changed the rules.

“New achievements will also now be available for completing Wardrobe account unlocks for the series 1, 2, and 3 minis.”

That suggests to me the old achievements may still be available, but some confirmation from ANet would be nice.

As for the old achievements getting grandfathered into the new ones, it would be nice if the old achievements basically got converted into the new ones. Still, for a person who has the achievements, but no longer has the minis, they obviously wanted the AP more than the actual collection, so I think it’s fair if they don’t get access to the minis themselves. Again, would be nice if they were, but I understand if it doesn’t happen.

Need an answer for this question too.

I’d assume the old achievements will move to the “history” part of the hero panel, where all the old LS achievements are? (I think….not in game atm.)

If that’s the case, you won’t lose your AP, but you will not be able to finish it either.
There will be new AP for the “new” collections.

I’m also very interested to hear the answer to this question. I’d been planning on completing my minipet collection achievements eventually, but had been putting it off because I had other things I wanted to spend my gold on first and I assumed I’d have plenty of time to get minis later. I certainly won’t be able to finish them before patch day now that prices have shot up, so I’ll be very disappointed if I lose the opportunity to get the achievements because they’ve have been moved to the history tab instead of being grandfathered into the new achievements.

Can a developer from Anet please answer this question regarding the old achievement track?

And another question:
What is going to happen to the current minis in the collectible tab when the feature patch arrives? The mini collectible tab will be removed and will they be automatically added to the wardrobe or do we have to take each and everyone of them out before the patch hit? There are people that do not want to account bound their mini when the patch arrive.

So many questions but no answers at all.

Don’t worry, Beaterator, the blog post clearly states that minis stay in the bank collection until removed, at which point their bank slot poofs and you can’t put them back in.

edit: the quote. Any minis currently in your bank or bank collection tab will still be in your bank when you log in. You’ll need to take them out individually and choose whether to unlock them for your account or dispose of them some other way.

Donari.5237:

Don’t worry, Beaterator, the blog post clearly states that minis stay in the bank collection until removed, at which point their bank slot poofs and you can’t put them back in.

edit: the quote. Any minis currently in your bank or bank collection tab will still be in your bank when you log in. You’ll need to take them out individually and choose whether to unlock them for your account or dispose of them some other way.

Ahh I must have somehow missed this. Thanks Donari, that answers 1 of my worries, now we just left with the question of whether the old achievement tracks are still obtainable or not.

Yeah Any light shed on the achievements would be nice, would suck to have another achievement half done >.< (I’m looking at you WvW season 1 !!! xP)

Same problem for me…

Miniature set 1: 53 unlocked closets / 51 posted on the window tracking success / total of all 54

Miniature set 2: 44 unlocked closets / 43 posted on the window tracking success / total of all 46

Together miniature 3: 46 unlocked closets / 45 posted on the window tracking success / total 49 together

I just want to be able to see my sets like before so I can see how much of each set I have and which ones I need to collect-achievement or not, I just want to be able to see them the way they were before. It was a nicer set up.

Best thign Anet should do and about what i complained about here also too a few weeks ago is to merge the old and the new achievements together and let each Achievement Tier give you now instead of 10 AP per Tier instead 20 AP per Tier, so that no one will lose AP who has worked and maxed out basically already some of the old as like the new same copied achievements.

I’m nearly done with the season 3 achievements, and have one show me 46/49, while the other shows me 47/49 because of unlocking the minis for the wardrobe actually doing not countign also too for the old achievement progression, which is for me personally just either clearly a bug, because anet intentionally removed the old progression mechanism, or its a clear fail design that needs to get changed so that the achievements don’t look so discontinued…

This isn’t fair. ppl getting 240 points and now we just can get 120points.

PLZ MERGE THE ACHIEVS!!!!!

That wouldnt be fair, before you only had to put them into your bank, not acc bind them.

I stay on my opinion.
This needs to get fixed through a merge of both systems, otherwise there will be always unfinishable old achievementts, which simply can’t only be finished anymore, because of anet gpoing the lazy way and removed just only the old progression mechanic and replaced it with a new one together with new copy & paste same achievements, what just screams out loud to be a fail design par excellence, when it would have been much easier just to merge either old and new achievements under the new progression system or just to add no new achievements at all and just replace the progression system.

Seriously, everybody with just a functionizing brain seriously must ask, what the hell they were just thinking about makign those changes, which leave the old version of the achievements for alot of players now permanently unfinishable.

There is no way for me and all others that are I nthe same situation like me to get the old versions of the achievemtn completed, because of the old progression mechaninc simply doesn’t exist anymore, we can’t put our minis anymore into the account chest to let them progress there by +1 towards the old achievement version.

If that just would freaking functionize that way there would be no freaking problem here at all, but it does NOT.
Live could be so relaxing and easy, if all what anet would need to do would be either an achievement merging, or addign the achievement progression mechanic, that putting an not for the account unlocked miniature into the account chest would let that miniature progress on the old version of the achievement then…

Due to this crap I lost personally 44 gold that I have most likely to pay later again if any fix should come ever, unless ANet can let the more progressed newer version let its progress of the old one get overwritten, when they should merge them.
Dont want to know, how much more gold alot of other players lost also surely too due to this fail design of the miniature achievements that are now so discontinued, that it even makes no sense anymore to to continue with more anniversary miniature sets, until this situation gets fixed in my opinion.

So… Put the old minipet achievement track into the retired section?

If you got the achievement points under the old system, you still have those points and you still can get the points for account binding the pets.

If you get the pets now, you can earn just as many points as under the old system.

I don’t see a problem.

The only issue is envy towards players who got their minipet AP under the old system and then got it again by accound binding their Minipets. However, the people complaining who got the AP under the old system but sold their Minipets before they accound bound the Minipets (and have to buy the minis again to double their AP), they at least got gold for their minis.

The problem is uncompleted achievements. Everyone hates looking at those.

This change came out of nowhere which meant people never got the chance to complete their achievements, and now they’re just sitting there.

It was a diplomatic decision to keep the old achievement, but it wasn’t a very good one. Merging the achievements and letting them keep theirs would have been probably made more people happier, instead of rewarding some players for no real reason.

merge the points or remove the achievment leaderboard. its simple, if you talking about living world achievs, its fine, if you wasn’t there you can’t get, but things like this, block your progress!!

Same problem on french forum, support since no response…

https://forum-fr.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Bug-Ensemble-de-miniatures-3/first#post232454

They could change these achievements to just showing off the minis (which matches the concept of temporary having them) and keep track of each mini on a similar fashion to collections.
Since the old version of the achievements tracked only the quantity of minis slotted on the bank tab, current progress on these should be imported to the reworked one, even if no miniatures are tracked as already shown. Further progress on incomplete achievements should require going beyond the previous mark.
Then, they could make different titles for the new wardrobe related achievements, like “miniature hoarder” for example.
Even if this is probably the most elegant fix, the biggest issue with this sytem is that it would require additional memory for achievement tracking, something that is not needed for the new ones since all the information is already in the wardrobe.

The easiest solution would be about linking the old achievements to the wardrobe, exactly like the new ones. The current score should be kept so noone loses AP and further progress should require going beyond the old mark.
The biggest flaw with this one is that it creates two exactly identical achievements, which doesn’t look good.

Orpheals solution is actually really good in this regard. Noone loses AP and doesn’t create duplicated achievements.
The only possible issue is about the engine not being able to grant a title unless the achievement is fully completed. This should require to split each achievement into two: The basic one would go up to 40 AP (it would grant the old title and import the score form the old achievments) and, on completion, would unlock a new one (pretty much like SPvP rank achievements) granting the next 40 and maybe providing a different title.

Still no fix, time passes but nothing comes…..

Pilouface.8194:

Still no fix, time passes but nothing comes…..

If you think its a bug, post it in the bugs forum and dont necro it in general discussions.