Guild Wars 2

I’m slow in posting and surely not the first one to wonder; Why are the quaggans in Bitterfrost Frontier so inconsistent with quaggans everywhere else in Tyria?
-They all have the calf/baby model instead of the adult model*
-None of them wear armor*
-Their voices and dialogue are “stupid” instead of sweet and childlike
-Babies are called Tadpoles instead of Calves (implying amphibian heritage, when quaggans are more like whales/dolphins)

I also want to know why the achievement to find several dead quaggans is called “Quirky Quaggan Quest”. Isn’t that a real clash of tone?
Unless the person doing it hates quaggans I suppose, and thinks of them as joke characters instead of an endearing race of pacifists somehow surviving in a harsh world.
As someone who likes Quaggans in the rest of the personal story and other areas of Tyria, this chapter was a pretty strange and confusing portrayal of them.

*I’m guessing these were to save on time/energy for resource creation by just using the black quaggan tonic model instead of adding any new killer whale quaggan models… but why not just use the existing adult models?

There was a previous thread(s) on this subject around the time of release. You can use Google to find it, if so desired.

Good luck.

Do you have any idea of what the thread was called? I’m not having luck finding it.

No, but if memory serves, it was in the Living World sub-forum.

It likely had Quaggan (but, of course, might have had some other eye-catching title) in the title, and you can narrow the search to that time period.

Good luck.

I had to scroll through the forums manually but i think i found it!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lwd/Quaggans-Where-are-the-adults/

eyestrain.3056:

Unless the person doing it hates quaggans I suppose, and thinks of them as joke characters instead of an endearing race of pacifists somehow surviving in a harsh world.

You know, that if you read more closely all the hints around them, it seems that originally they were a rather bloodthirsty race that turned themselves pacifist in order not to die out?
They are based on orcas, not dolphins, for a reason.
(though, it doesn’t make them any less of a cute joke characters now, and the bitterfrost ones do stand out for no reason whatsoever)

They do have a level of subtlety and thoughtful design that is more complex than the stupid mascot trope so I’m willing to consider that theory :O

I agree with you, Eyestrain. Before Bitterfrost, the Quaggan were humble, shy and slow in their dialogues, yet they had some deep that made then interesting. There were stupid and bright ones, cheerful and sad ones, kind and aloof ones. The fear of their own rage was very well portrayed, and their struggle to stand and fight was truly moving.

In Bitterfrost they are all the same boring goody-do-good stereotype joke. Awful.

quaggan have no continuity. they dont belong in this world and should be used as cannon fodder at the earliest convenience