Guild Wars 2

So often I try to make an outfit within my wardrobe, with the intention of working toward each piece I may not have. And so often I am faced with an issue where one skin or another is unobtainable for one reason on another. Recently, however, I have been faced with an issue where a skin is not locked behind potential wait times for an item to be re-released in the gem store, or having to grind through a PvP reward track, or possibly even buy GW1. There are a few sets of armor skins that are literally completely unobtainable to anyone who doesn’t already have them. I’d really like to see these brought back. The skin sets in question are listed below.

Light Armor: Tribal Armor, Apostle Armor.
Medium Armor: Stalwart Armor, Marauder Armor.
Heavy Armor: Heavy Scale Armor.

Some of these armors are very unique, and rather appealing. It’s sad to see that we have literally no way of obtaining them purely because they’re part of a system that got replaced.

Also, while I would also like to see each Guild Armor make a comeback, I understand that this is not as important, as the only pieces that are unique are the chest pieces, which are still available.

Technically, these weren’t from any reward track. These were handed out randomly, usually from the PvP Mystic Forge and winning tournaments. But, yes, bring them back

I think they were also available from achievement reward chests since those used to give out PvP skins.

As far as I can tell from the few comments Anet have made on the issue they weren’t deliberately removed from the game, it’s just that back in April 2014 they introduced the Wardrobe system, completely re-worked how PvP rewards worked and made some other changes and in the process these skins ‘slipped through’ and didn’t make the transition from the old system to the new one.

They have said they’re planning to bring them back at some point. I’m not sure what the method of acquisition will be but a PvP reward track or PvP tournament token rewards seem the most likely to me because they’re closest to the old system.

As long as they make them near impossible to get, I have no problem with them coming back.

It’s great that the armors are prestiged in some way- Yes the tribal armor was a Wolf rank, but earning XP is so much easier now & you are actually guaranteed a decent reward, where as before all the PvP changes, you were not.
You hardly got XP from losses and in order to get a decent amount of XP for pvp rank you needed pvp boosters, and to actually win.
Once you got the “wolf” tokens from finally reaching wolf rank, you turned in the tokens and could throw them in the mystic forge and maybe, just maybe you’d get the tribal armor.

So, hopefully there will be no handouts as most people in gw2 want.

People who get pleasure out of other people not having things they already have are the worst kind of people.

I just want the godkitten ed Apostle legs and Stalwart shoulders, the only pieces of those respective sets I didn’t get out of achievement chests way back when.

I’ve been waiting to use the Apostle chest and legs together on a character for years.

In regards to making them nearly impossible, this is a terrible mentality in general. I’m not asking to have them for free. I even stated I want to work toward the outfit. But making them nearly impossible to get would endorse an elitist mentality that GW2 does actively seem to try to avoid.

They have had multiple opportunities to add them back in as leveling/story rewards and some of them even are / have always been. As for people wanting them gated hard, they were never hard to get in the first place, people were just caught off guard by their disappearance.

Ya I’ve wanted the stalwart hat for some time ;-(

Maybe they should handout Legendaries just because people want them.
The original pvp armors are kinda prestiged and shows the the veteran pvpers over the ones who just want because they cant have.

It has nothing to do with wanting what we can’t have. These were not rare armors. They were common drops that the devs themselves have stated were not meant to be removed. They are a skin shown in collections that is unobtainable because of a mistake. Comparing that to legendaries is completely asinine.

They were only common drops if you were good enough to get to that level. Whether or not they were supposed to be left out of the game is irrelevant to the situation now presented, where old school pvpers who played for little to no reward deserve recognition. Contrary to popular ‘gamer culture’ belief, well no, contrary to just popular cultural belief, we are not all entitled to everything we want. The mentality that ‘everyone is a winner’ is completely bogus and narcissistic. Accept that at the very least, the opinion that old players who stuck with a broken system for the love of the game deserving unique recognition is valid. And, that however accidental, it is not unreasonable for these rarer skins to be it.

They weren’t common, you used specific tokens to make them while you were in your reward track and if you got it at the end of a match as a reward chest then, you got it and if you didnt, you didnt and would try to make it in the pvp mystic forge
it was stupid
rewards sucked back then
id prefer more pve content and more personal story than to see these armors back

Wait, that’s where I got those armor sets? I played A LOT of sPvP forever, and never paid attention to my skins. Some of them are super ugly. I can’t see why people want them…

But I don’t feel prestige about them. I’m fine with a new reward track for them, maybe make them gated? So you need to do the track 6 times as the end piece is the armor. Then, it’s not hard, but it takes time. My only request is that they stay tied to being earned only in sPvP. They were earned there, they should stay there.

Bottom line is they’ll be coming back at some point, as stated by devs.

Not really sure why people are arguing against their return.

Chasind.3128:

As long as they make them near impossible to get, I have no problem with them coming back.

It’s great that the armors are prestiged in some way- Yes the tribal armor was a Wolf rank, but earning XP is so much easier now & you are actually guaranteed a decent reward, where as before all the PvP changes, you were not.
You hardly got XP from losses and in order to get a decent amount of XP for pvp rank you needed pvp boosters, and to actually win.
Once you got the “wolf” tokens from finally reaching wolf rank, you turned in the tokens and could throw them in the mystic forge and maybe, just maybe you’d get the tribal armor.

So, hopefully there will be no handouts as most people in gw2 want.

Lol, no one is asking for a hand out, just the ability to get them back. Personally I don’t like any of them. But making them “near impossible to get” is a sad thing to say. I’m all for items being hard to get when it comes to special events or yearly festivals. There are loads I don’t have and don’t care if I never get them, but I do not wish other people the inability to get them.

nosleepdemon.1368:

They were only common drops if you were good enough to get to that level. Whether or not they were supposed to be left out of the game is irrelevant to the situation now presented, where old school pvpers who played for little to no reward deserve recognition. Contrary to popular ‘gamer culture’ belief, well no, contrary to just popular cultural belief, we are not all entitled to everything we want. The mentality that ‘everyone is a winner’ is completely bogus and narcissistic. Accept that at the very least, the opinion that old players who stuck with a broken system for the love of the game deserving unique recognition is valid. And, that however accidental, it is not unreasonable for these rarer skins to be it.

/refers to a request to bring back something trivial as self-entitled
/goes on to say people deserve recognition for a trivial task
Ha.

revodeel.2651:

Bottom line is they’ll be coming back at some point, as stated by devs.

Not really sure why people are arguing against their return.

Not at all doubting you.
But mind linking where this was stated?
I tried to find it and couldn’t.

Damio Roncartia.7041:

revodeel.2651:

Bottom line is they’ll be coming back at some point, as stated by devs.

Not really sure why people are arguing against their return.

Not at all doubting you.
But mind linking where this was stated?
I tried to find it and couldn’t.

Sure.

About 3/4 down the second page:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Tribal-armor-set-1/page/2

A summary on dulfy of the dev AMA on reddit, look under the items tab:
http://dulfy.net/2016/03/05/gw2-reddit-developer-ama-summary/#Items

Damio Roncartia.7041:

nosleepdemon.1368:

They were only common drops if you were good enough to get to that level. Whether or not they were supposed to be left out of the game is irrelevant to the situation now presented, where old school pvpers who played for little to no reward deserve recognition. Contrary to popular ‘gamer culture’ belief, well no, contrary to just popular cultural belief, we are not all entitled to everything we want. The mentality that ‘everyone is a winner’ is completely bogus and narcissistic. Accept that at the very least, the opinion that old players who stuck with a broken system for the love of the game deserving unique recognition is valid. And, that however accidental, it is not unreasonable for these rarer skins to be it.

/refers to a request to bring back something trivial as self-entitled
/goes on to say people deserve recognition for a trivial task
Ha.

They were only trivial if you actually accomplished the thankless task of obtaining them. So yes, people do deserve them and wanting some sort of unique recognition for taking part in the structured pvp system back in the day is reasonable. Eh but why would you care right? You just want the things for your wardrobe, mr locust.

nosleepdemon.1368:

They were only trivial if you actually accomplished the thankless task of obtaining them. So yes, people do deserve them and wanting some sort of unique recognition for taking part in the structured pvp system back in the day is reasonable. Eh but why would you care right? You just want the things for your wardrobe, mr locust.

Now this is a prime example of video game culture mentality. The “I deserve to be special” thought process. Because you accomplished something in a video game early on, you deserve a gold star. No, no you do not. That’d be like me demanding something special for getting my full elite spec in HoT within the first 10 hours of release, without the proper masteries, and before all the HP nerfs. I don’t. I chose to do that. I chose to run around with a friend of mine and struggle through content we knew was gonna get nerfed just so we could play HoT with our elite spec already done. Chose to gather 21 HoT hero points before they reduced the requirements from 400 to 250. Nobody twisted my arm. And if people have an easier time now, good for them. I don’t deserve special status or a fancy title because I did something many people did not or could not. You’re not special for being on a game before someone else, or doing something in said game before someone else. You are not owed thanks or praise or recognition for it.

I’m requesting these be brought back, through a method that requires I earn them, no less, because they were not ever meant to be a prestige item. They fell through a crack and were never meant to go away. A request, it seems, that is already planned to be fulfilled. Remember now, operative word being request. You are insisting they never be put back because, as you put it, people who already have them deserve recongition for doing something “thankless,” as if they should have had their hand shaken for completing something in a video game. Please, think before you accuse others of being self-entitled and wanting a gold star. This was painfully hypocritical.

Ellieanna.5027:

Wait, that’s where I got those armor sets? I played A LOT of sPvP forever, and never paid attention to my skins. Some of them are super ugly. I can’t see why people want them…

They also came from the chests of PVP skins that achievement chests used to have (at least, Stalwart and Apostle did, I got almost the entire sets that way). Some prestige.

Also they weren’t even special armors intended for PVP, like the Glorious set was, they were just ordinary armor sets that were never made properly available in PVE (as they were obviously intended to, since you get the chest piece of Apostle/Stalwart/Heavy Scale and most of the Marauder set as personal story rewards).

Please. Bring back Stalwart armor. I remember Colin saying he was going to look into it months ago, but nothing happened :/

All I need are the shoulders, I got everything else back when they were obtainable.. heck I’d even pay if they showed up in the gemstore. I really don’t care how we get them at this point I’d just like to be able to get them.