Guild Wars 2

For science & drop rate research purposes.

The following video shows the outcome or you can simply view the data below:

Opened on 25/03/15.

- Shadow Abyss x 5
- Shadow Blue Dye x 5
- Shadow Green Dye x 1
- Shadow Magenta Dye x 2
- Shadow Orange Dye x 4
- Shadow Purple Dye x 3
- Shadow Red Dye x 4
- Shadow Turquoise Dye x 3
- Shadow Violet Dye x 6
- Shadow Yellow Dye x 10

SIDE-NOTE: On the day these new dyes were released 17/03/15 I bought a bundle of 25 and I recieved 3 Shadow Abyss Dyes out of that.

The first 100 dyes were a good profit (x 5 Shadow Abyss alone). The next 50 yielded no Shadow Abyss sadly.

so shadow dies versus non shadows yielded the result of 1/3 shadow on average. Meaning that it’s not that bad RNG.

from what people have told me I believe the shadowdyekit have a good chance of a shadowdye drop. I mean, there’s 10 shadowdyes and 25 possible drops (assuming the dropchance is the same on all of the dyes)

Fransson.7910:

from what people have told me I believe the shadowdyekit have a good chance of a shadowdye drop. I mean, there’s 10 shadowdyes and 25 possible drops (assuming the dropchance is the same on all of the dyes)

Yellow popped up quite a fair bit, same said for guildies.

Thanks for spending all those gems on SCIENCE for the rest of us. I appreciate having the data.

Looks like it’s not a bad investment

150 shadow dye kits = 125 gems each = 18750 gems total = 2981 gold at current exchange rate.

Using the current asking prices from the TP below:

- Shadow Abyss x 5 (5 × 218 gold = 1090 gold)
- Shadow Blue Dye x 5 (5 × 27.5 gold = 137.5 gold)
- Shadow Green Dye x 1 (1 × 11.7 gold = 11.7 gold)
- Shadow Magenta Dye x 2 (2 × 10 gold = 20 gold)
- Shadow Orange Dye x 4 (4 × 8.7 gold = 34.8 gold)
- Shadow Purple Dye x 3 (3 × 12.9 gold = 38.7 gold)
- Shadow Red Dye x 4 (4 × 19.7 gold = 78.8 gold)
- Shadow Turquoise Dye x 3 (3 × 9.9 gold = 29.7 gold)
- Shadow Violet Dye x 6 (6 × 13.1 gold = 78.6 gold)
- Shadow Yellow Dye x 10 (10 × 8.5 gold = 85 gold)

Total from selling dyes = 1604.8 gold.

2981 gold minus 1604.8 gold = a 1376.2 gold loss. This is a horrible investment unless one of you knows something I don’t know. You spend almost twice as much as you get from selling the dyes.

Perhaps this is an investment for when the dyes are no longer available and presumably the price goes up. That would make sense I suppose. If the prices go higher than double what they are now (consider the TP’s “tax” on selling), profit may be possible.

Nutjob.9021:

150 shadow dye kits = 125 gems each = 18750 gems total = 2981 gold at current exchange rate.

Using the current asking prices from the TP below:

- Shadow Abyss x 5 (5 × 218 gold = 1090 gold)
- Shadow Blue Dye x 5 (5 × 27.5 gold = 137.5 gold)
- Shadow Green Dye x 1 (1 × 11.7 gold = 11.7 gold)
- Shadow Magenta Dye x 2 (2 × 10 gold = 20 gold)
- Shadow Orange Dye x 4 (4 × 8.7 gold = 34.8 gold)
- Shadow Purple Dye x 3 (3 × 12.9 gold = 38.7 gold)
- Shadow Red Dye x 4 (4 × 19.7 gold = 78.8 gold)
- Shadow Turquoise Dye x 3 (3 × 9.9 gold = 29.7 gold)
- Shadow Violet Dye x 6 (6 × 13.1 gold = 78.6 gold)
- Shadow Yellow Dye x 10 (10 × 8.5 gold = 85 gold)

Total from selling dyes = 1604.8 gold.

2981 gold minus 1604.8 gold = a 1376.2 gold loss. This is a horrible investment unless one of you knows something I don’t know. You spend almost twice as much as you get from selling the dyes.

Perhaps this is an investment for when the dyes are no longer available and presumably the price goes up. That would make sense I suppose. If the prices go higher than double what they are now (consider the TP’s “tax” on selling), profit may be possible.

You forget to deduct the 15% transaction fee for listing them on TP.

15% of 1604.8 is 240.72. So, you would actually get 1364.1 gold (rounded) from spending 2981 gold for a loss of 1617 gold.

And I didn’t forget the 15%. Note where I mentioned “TP’s tax on selling”. I just didn’t feel like calculating it.

Gem Shop containers with random drops are never financially sound investments. They are great fun…for those people who enjoy scratching lottery tickets or other games of chance. The value is in the anticipation of getting lucky.

There’s a guy in my guild who loves stuff like this and he has a blast opening BL Chests and Dye Kits. I never try to talk him into more efficient investments because he is already maximizing the fun he gets per dollar/gem/gold spent. Works out great for me, too: I play the numbers and make my money; he provides me with vicarious thrills (and on rare occasion, some data I can use to adjust my own investments).

Toxsa.2701:

Nutjob.9021:

150 shadow dye kits = 125 gems each = 18750 gems total = 2981 gold at current exchange rate.

Using the current asking prices from the TP below:

- Shadow Abyss x 5 (5 × 218 gold = 1090 gold)
- Shadow Blue Dye x 5 (5 × 27.5 gold = 137.5 gold)
- Shadow Green Dye x 1 (1 × 11.7 gold = 11.7 gold)
- Shadow Magenta Dye x 2 (2 × 10 gold = 20 gold)
- Shadow Orange Dye x 4 (4 × 8.7 gold = 34.8 gold)
- Shadow Purple Dye x 3 (3 × 12.9 gold = 38.7 gold)
- Shadow Red Dye x 4 (4 × 19.7 gold = 78.8 gold)
- Shadow Turquoise Dye x 3 (3 × 9.9 gold = 29.7 gold)
- Shadow Violet Dye x 6 (6 × 13.1 gold = 78.6 gold)
- Shadow Yellow Dye x 10 (10 × 8.5 gold = 85 gold)

Total from selling dyes = 1604.8 gold.

2981 gold minus 1604.8 gold = a 1376.2 gold loss. This is a horrible investment unless one of you knows something I don’t know. You spend almost twice as much as you get from selling the dyes.

Perhaps this is an investment for when the dyes are no longer available and presumably the price goes up. That would make sense I suppose. If the prices go higher than double what they are now (consider the TP’s “tax” on selling), profit may be possible.

You forget to deduct the 15% transaction fee for listing them on TP.

i know its shocking but it is a great gold source if you buy the gems with MONEY a lot of money tho…

tfcgeneralkmk.9508:

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i know its shocking but it is a great gold source if you buy the gems with MONEY a lot of money tho…

Are you sure you compared converting that MONEY to gems and then to GOLD?

Now if you are looking to unlock some of the dyes, it can pay for itself with a few lucky hits (I got 3 Shadow Abyss yesterday…), but the gems to gold exchange rate is about 1g = $0.15 USD (and the above is not removing the 15% TP fee loss)

Brother Grimm.5176:

tfcgeneralkmk.9508:

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i know its shocking but it is a great gold source if you buy the gems with MONEY a lot of money tho…

Are you sure you compared converting that MONEY to gems and then to GOLD?

Now if you are looking to unlock some of the dyes, it can pay for itself with a few lucky hits (I got 3 Shadow Abyss yesterday…), but the gems to gold exchange rate is about 1g = $0.15 USD.

0 in game time requirement = 100% profit exchange rate doesn’t really play into it because i was suggesting buy the gems buy the dye kits sell the resulting dyes

Also if you are buying 150 kits, you will be buying the 5 or 25 unit packages which lower the price to 100 gems each or 15,000 gems, somewhere around 2100g currently.

Yesterday, I opened 25 of the shadow dye kits.
I got 10 of the shadow dyes, and 15 of the lesser dyes.
I forget the amount of each, but only got one shadow abyss.
I also did one of the lions arch dye kits, got regina(spelling? but a beautiful purple) and an abyss.
I don’t do these things for the investment. I just enjoy the thrill of opening the kits(and this also includes the black lion chests too).
Sometimes I do well, some times I don’t. But again, not really for investment purposes.
However, I did sell the doubles of the shadow dyes I had.
The lesser dye kits, I give away to my guildies.