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Posted by: SweetPotato.7456

SweetPotato.7456

What the topic said.

My List:
They run too slow. For something 4 legged, Charr running animation bugs me! its like play back a movie in slow motion.

They don’t look good in any armor, especially if they are female. all the armor look ridiculous to this race! I think they need to have something else other than armor, like for instant an adult lion has mane and it meant something to the other lions.

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Posted by: Copestetic.5174

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My number one reason is…

Because after all the crap your character/Humans go through in GW1, how could I ever be happy playing as something that single-handedly decimated the Human race? Plus I had ( and still have ) an odd fascination with killing them over and over and over again. Even here in GW2.

Ask Jaw Smokeskin, Blaze Bloodbane, Ghast Ashy-poo, and ole’ Red Eye. They hated me, and I them.

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Posted by: colesy.8490

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Ugly, ugly armour, running on all fours.

Great looking cultural armour is exactly why I have an asura, human and norn.

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Posted by: Vol.5241

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because if you run as a Charr people will automatically assume you are a broski bully who likes making tough looking characters

as opposed to the ‘hotty’ human
the ‘cutesy’ Asura
or the laid-back Norn

If you’re Sylvari I assume you like gardening

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Posted by: LanfearShadowflame.3189

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The only reasons I didn’t choose Charr:

~Didn’t resonate with me right away
~Preferred to ‘learn’ the classes on a race I was comfortable with
~Haven’t found any armor I particularly like

That said, I do plan on buying at least 1 char slot for a Char character. Potentially more, depending on how interesting their individual story arcs are.

Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.

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Posted by: Justdeifyme.9387

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The way they stand. They don’t stand tall like proud warriors who have conquered many lands, they stand like shameful cowards, lowered like they fear to get slapped by their master.
Would they look like they do on Concept Art and Artworks, then I’d play one, because the Charr lore and philosophy is awesome.

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Posted by: Windu The Forbidden One.6045

Windu The Forbidden One.6045

-I don’t like beast races in general
-They are hideous
-Their running animation makes it look like you move as slow as molasses
-They stand like hunchbacks
-ugly armor

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

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because if you run as a Charr people will automatically assume you are a broski bully who likes making tough looking characters

as opposed to the ‘hotty’ human
the ‘cutesy’ Asura
or the laid-back Norn

If you’re Sylvari I assume you like gardening

or maybe salads…..

On opposite of the OP, I made a Charr because I like the monstery look.

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Posted by: Mellotron.7598

Mellotron.7598

Yeah ugly armour. Same reason I don’t have an Asura.

Which is a shame because I do really like all 5 races, but armour just isn’t optimised to look good on those body shapes.

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Posted by: LHound.8964

LHound.8964

Why we don’t like a race thread? A slightly racist thread, ain’t it?

Charrs are awesome with lousy gear design!
Awesome lore, awesome philosophy, excelent quotes…:

During the Ellen/Evon event cutscene:

Captain Ellen Kiel: If neither of us gets this trade agreement, it’ll be all your fault.
Captain Evon Gnashblade: My fault? You’re a mouse fart who thinks she’s a hurricane. Please.
Captain Ellen Kiel: Oh yeah? No more being nice. You’re going down, Gnashblade.
Captain Evon Gnashblade: (chuckle) Just stand aside, Ellen, so you don’t get your feelings hurt

/cheers

—————— ~~ ~~ —-————-
Charr’s need more Love. All is Vain
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Posted by: Copestetic.5174

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because if you run as a Charr people will automatically assume you are a broski bully who likes making tough looking characters

as opposed to the ‘hotty’ human
the ‘cutesy’ Asura
or the laid-back Norn

If you’re Sylvari I assume you like gardening

or maybe salads…..

On opposite of the OP, I made a Charr because I like the monstery look.

Tossers!

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Posted by: milton.1796

milton.1796

I made a charr but then I deleted it.

I always got tunnel visioned in pvp most likely because I was a bigger target than everything else like the Tauren in WoW…

Went back to something smaller and pvp was suddenly fun again.

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Posted by: AntiGw.9367

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If they are half as obnoxious as Evon, I’m not gonna play them :/

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Posted by: RyuDragnier.9476

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On the opposite side of the fence, I made a Charr for the following reasons.

- I prefer beast races
- Their backstory was interesting
- Their current civilization is steampunk
- They have a very unique culture
- DEM VOICES

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Posted by: GuzziHero.2467

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Anatomically unlikely, horrid voices, pointless horns, and armour clipping galore.

Mind you, I can’t stand Asura either, ugly little grey spitballs that they are.

Oh, and a good reason I don’t play Norn. Cube root law. Besides, Norn pretty much play entirely on the myth that Vikings were large people when studies show they had an average height around 10-25cm shorter than modern man.

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Posted by: LanfearShadowflame.3189

LanfearShadowflame.3189

If they are half as obnoxious as Evon, I’m not gonna play them :/

chuckle As much or more so. Just wandering around the charr area and listening to the NPCs…..just wow.

Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

I wouldn’t play an Orc in Lotro if the option was given (outside of monster pvp), the same applies to Charr

Ascalon was such a pretty place once…

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Posted by: AcidicVision.5498

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In GW we seen them destroy the human kingdom and kill woman, children and elderly. Gwen’s story showed us they had human torture camps. They helped resurrect the titans that could have ended all intelligent life. They held humans for nearly a decade kept barely alive in small cages. They performed ritualistic human sacrifices.

They were bad guys. All of them. Then Pyre comes along and says “uhh yeah, our bad.” And we are just supposed to say “nah bro it’s cool”?

I tolerate them because they are a useful tool against the Dragons. They worked so well for the Lich almost ending the world and all.

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Posted by: locoman.1974

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I do have a charr, but it was the last one of my chars (so far) to reach 80 (still don’t have a human 80, though).

Main reason is that clipping on armor is something that irks me out big time, and most armor have big clipping issues with the tail on charr.

It’s a pile of Elonian protection magic, mixed with a little monk training,
wrapped up in some crazy ritualist hoo-ha from Cantha.
A real grab bag of ‘you can’t hurt me. They’re called Guardians.

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Posted by: Kaizer.7135

Kaizer.7135

Their architecture & homeland is REALLY bland, their armor is hideous, they move like they’re running in Slo-mo, easy targets, when they run with their weapon drawn it looks ridiculous.

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Posted by: matemaster.2168

matemaster.2168

If there was a werewolf class, only then I would choose charr race to represnt it appropriately

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Posted by: fellyn.5083

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My number one reason is…

Because after all the crap your character/Humans go through in GW1, how could I ever be happy playing as something that single-handedly decimated the Human race? Plus I had ( and still have ) an odd fascination with killing them over and over and over again. Even here in GW2.

Ask Jaw Smokeskin, Blaze Bloodbane, Ghast Ashy-poo, and ole’ Red Eye. They hated me, and I them.

Those are some of the better reasons to play a charr. You’re aware that the humans took the land from the charr in the first place right?

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Posted by: UrMom.4205

UrMom.4205

I never played GW1, so all the lore related reasons don’t apply. I honestly first picked a charr cause they looked kitten in the menus and character creation menu. But once I got in game and saw that they ran on all fours I logged out and deleted my toon lol.

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Posted by: Windu The Forbidden One.6045

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Awesome lore, awesome philosophy,

“centuries ago one nation of humans took our lands, lets hold the current generation responsible for what happened hundreds of years ago and slaughter every human nation!”

Great philosophy and lore right there.

You’re aware that the humans took the land from the charr in the first place right?

Centuries ago yes, you can’t blame the current generation (or the gw1 generation) for what happened such a long time ago. Most lands/nations in the real world once belonged to someone else, that doesn’t mean we can just throw the current inhabitants out.

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Posted by: Bunnymancer.6901

Bunnymancer.6901

Anatomically unlikely, horrid voices, pointless horns, and armour clipping galore.

Mind you, I can’t stand Asura either, ugly little grey spitballs that they are.

Oh, and a good reason I don’t play Norn. Cube root law. Besides, Norn pretty much play entirely on the myth that Vikings were large people when studies show they had an average height around 10-25cm shorter than modern man.

Which was still taller than many other people during that time, but sure.

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Posted by: fellyn.5083

fellyn.5083

Awesome lore, awesome philosophy,

“centuries ago one nation of humans took our lands, lets hold the current generation responsible for what happened hundreds of years ago and slaughter every human nation!”

Great philosophy and lore right there.

You’re aware that the humans took the land from the charr in the first place right?

Centuries ago yes, you can’t blame the current generation (or the gw1 generation) for what happened such a long time ago. Most lands/nations in the real world once belonged to someone else, that doesn’t mean we can just throw the current inhabitants out.

So? Doesn’t change the fact that in Guild Wars lore that’s what happened. I’m not sure why comparisons to reality matter.

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Posted by: Krispera.5087

Krispera.5087

Even if they were the main antagonist in GW1, it didn’t really influence my decision.
My main issue is they didn’t make standing Charr the norm. The 4 legs running in a JP is terrible.

My second issue is that Ascalon is boring. It’s accidented and war ravaged. I compare it to Orr. Ugly and accidented. In comparison to the wonderful Caledon Forest.

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Posted by: Penguin.5197

Penguin.5197

armour clipping galore.

Mind you, I can’t stand Asura either, ugly little grey spitballs that they are.

They’ve basically Said for clipping they just care more for the most played races and not so much for charr. I love my charr but when your own devs don’t give a crap about a race I don’t expect many players will either.

Also I agree with your feelings about asura

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Posted by: GuzziHero.2467

GuzziHero.2467

Which was still taller than many other people during that time, but sure.

Celts were on average 5’ 4" to 5’ 8" depending on which study you choose. This is from studying skeletons of that particular time period.

To the Romans, yes the Vikings, Celts and Teutons were very tall, since the average height of a late Empire Roman was around 5’2". Teutons really were massive, compared to Romans, thanks to a more varied diet. But Vikings were no giants, by anyone’s standard.

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Posted by: Conncept.7638

Conncept.7638

From another thread on the same subject

The Charr were designed to look ferocious and driven by emotion, yet at the same time cunning, logical, and ambitious. Arenanet failed to convey any of that in their design. Between the ridiculously exaggerated overbites, lack of facial detail and expressions, the slurred speech patterns, and the gravity-defying posture the Charr look stupid (literally), unthreatening, emotionless, and frankly… inbred

And another

Their lore?
Doesn’t their lore describe a battle hungry race turning away from all false gods towards the end of the last GW and instead to machines of war? What part of Charr lore is against them being what they are?

Yeah, what their lore doesn’t explain is why? Why did any of that happen?! And the biggest question, why didn’t they ever turn back? The Charr have had a SINGLE major victory in their entire history, and then, they go and abandon the power that won them that victory… for women’s rights, which admittedly wasn’t even remotely important for most of them? That’s seriously the only explanation for why they split from the flame legion, and it was obviously only placed there to explain how charr females could be PCs. Their is still no explanation for why they didn’t return to the flame legion, especially considering they have had no success fighting anybody else but the flame legion themselves since. Why have they never been tempted to turn back?

The Charr as an entire race are complete and utter failures, a laughing stock. Their entire cultures is based on self-importance and boastfulness yet they have never accomplished anything worth boasting about without the coddling of otherworldly powers. They beat on Ebonhawk for almost 200 years, a single city of inferior technology and numbers, and never even came close to breaching it!

Their culture makes no sense in light of the story under which it is supposed to have developed. Those things which have happened to them and the circumstances under which they have been put would not have inspired anybody to become what the Charr have become.

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Posted by: Windu The Forbidden One.6045

Windu The Forbidden One.6045

Awesome lore, awesome philosophy,

“centuries ago one nation of humans took our lands, lets hold the current generation responsible for what happened hundreds of years ago and slaughter every human nation!”

Great philosophy and lore right there.

You’re aware that the humans took the land from the charr in the first place right?

Centuries ago yes, you can’t blame the current generation (or the gw1 generation) for what happened such a long time ago. Most lands/nations in the real world once belonged to someone else, that doesn’t mean we can just throw the current inhabitants out.

So? Doesn’t change the fact that in Guild Wars lore that’s what happened. I’m not sure why comparisons to reality matter.

I’m saying this because people keep justifying the Charr’s genocide with “..but the humans took their land first!”

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Posted by: Nightarch.2943

Nightarch.2943

They’re nothing but filthy animals and savages. Also they don’t run on two feet. It’s like the npcs run normally but the player characters don’t? Zafuq?

Guild Wars 2 is not a sequel to the original Guild Wars but merely an alternative story setting.

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Posted by: khani.4786

khani.4786

I have three Charr. I love them, darned humans deserved what they got for stealing Charr homelands in the first place.

I just hate that the CULTURAL armor has clipping issues. General purpose armor fine, I’ll deal with clipping….but cultural?

My first character during Beta was Charr, and one of my first in pre-launch was Charr. My lady Charr ranger just got her first birthday present….and I gave her a makeover. She’s awesome.

Ghul Doomslash is my second necro and he’s grizzley, scary and awesome.
I just made a Charr mesmer and she is loads of fun too.

The run speed is the same it just feels slow because the animations are weird. Norn feel the same way to me (My main is a norn).

I have some human characters but I don’t play them often….they seem arrogant and are pretty much jerks. :P

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Posted by: Copestetic.5174

Copestetic.5174

My number one reason is…

Because after all the crap your character/Humans go through in GW1, how could I ever be happy playing as something that single-handedly decimated the Human race? Plus I had ( and still have ) an odd fascination with killing them over and over and over again. Even here in GW2.

Ask Jaw Smokeskin, Blaze Bloodbane, Ghast Ashy-poo, and ole’ Red Eye. They hated me, and I them.

Those are some of the better reasons to play a charr. You’re aware that the humans took the land from the charr in the first place right?

I’d be a pretty kitten -poor GW player if I didn’t know the basics behind the lore. lol Yes, I’m aware of it. Regardless, in GW1 Charr are portrayed as very evil and cruel beings. It was pretty easy to side with the Humans, regardless of them beating them out of Ascalon taking their lands. I suppose it’s the human-side of me that sympathizes with the humans in-game more than Charr.

Plus, I enjoyed ( again, still do ) listening to them die while laughing as their pathetic attacks did nothing to me at their alter in Pre-Searing! Except Chaots…they could strip enchantments.

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Posted by: GuzziHero.2467

GuzziHero.2467

See, the point Conncept makes about the Charr turning away from Flame Legion for, apparently, egalitarianism, is one thing about GW2 that really rankles me.

Lets get serious about races and their professions.

Humans can be any profession and it is lore-probable. 6 Gods, that has pretty much every profession covered right there. Dwayna – Guardians. Balthazar – Warriors. Melandru covers half the Elementalists and Rangers. Grenth – Necromancers. Lyssa – Mesmers, Thieves (stealth) and the other half of Elementalists. Noone cares about Kormir, and Engineers are just signs of technological progress and/or unmagicked persons emulating magic by using alchemy.

Charr… well lets see. Engineers, Warriors and Rangers go without saying. Thieves exist in every society. Guardians are on shaky ground, and there is no way the Charr society would accept a Necromancer or a Mesmer. And as soon as any Charr Elementalist attuned to fire, he would be nailed to a wall on the Viewing Hill. Upside down.

Allowing Charr to be any of the magical professions destroys pretty much every vestage of their lore.

Its not just them though. In reality, only about half the professions would apply to the Norn, whereas even the dumbest Asura would consider any of the professions in GW2 to be far beneath their enormous intellect. Sylvari are just invented so they can do whatever Anet wants them to.


And dont get me started on the feminism in GW2…

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Posted by: locoman.1974

locoman.1974

…Charr… well lets see. Engineers, Warriors and Rangers go without saying. Thieves exist in every society. Guardians are on shaky ground, and there is no way the Charr society would accept a Necromancer or a Mesmer. And as soon as any Charr Elementalist attuned to fire, he would be nailed to a wall on the Viewing Hill. Upside down.

Allowing Charr to be any of the magical professions destroys pretty much every vestage of their lore.

Its not just them though. In reality, only about half the professions would apply to the Norn, whereas even the dumbest Asura would consider any of the professions in GW2 to be far beneath their enormous intellect. Sylvari are just invented so they can do whatever Anet wants them to.

I remember reading (not sure where, I think it was pre-release) that the way the charr view magic is that they generally distrust magic users because of the flame legion issue, but they’re also very pragmatic so they’re not going to completely stop using magic all over because then it would be an advantage they give to their enemies, so mainly magic is something they tolerate but not really encourage in the first place. Actually I do think that Rytlock Brimstone is a good example, he might distrust magic, yet his weapon of choice is a magical sword, and one with fire based magic as well.

That said, I do think that mesmers, which are in general based around confusing and distracting their enemies, would be considered a valuable asset by the ash legion

It’s a pile of Elonian protection magic, mixed with a little monk training,
wrapped up in some crazy ritualist hoo-ha from Cantha.
A real grab bag of ‘you can’t hurt me. They’re called Guardians.

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Posted by: Grounder.7381

Grounder.7381

stretched armor.

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Posted by: Lothirieth.3408

Lothirieth.3408

I greatly prefer playing humanoid characters.. so no beasts, funky coloured dark elves, dwarves or hobbits. So that’s why I went for a human first, then Norn.. and then the rest are mainly story APs and cultural armor APs. :P

I didn’t play GW1 but I’ve started reading Ghosts of Ascalon and it’s enlightened me to what the Charr were like. This:

In GW we seen them destroy the human kingdom and kill woman, children and elderly. Gwen’s story showed us they had human torture camps. They helped resurrect the titans that could have ended all intelligent life. They held humans for nearly a decade kept barely alive in small cages. They performed ritualistic human sacrifices.

They were bad guys. All of them. Then Pyre comes along and says “uhh yeah, our bad.” And we are just supposed to say “nah bro it’s cool”?

… this is why I have a hard time playing the charr I have just to get the story APs. It’s incredibly hard to see him as any type of hero.

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Posted by: Avatar Rage.4369

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On the opposite side of the fence, I made a Charr for the following reasons.

- I prefer beast races
- Their backstory was interesting
- Their current civilization is steampunk
- They have a very unique culture
- DEM VOICES

Ditto, also Steve Blum and his epic voice

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Posted by: locoman.1974

locoman.1974

I greatly prefer playing humanoid characters.. so no beasts, funky coloured dark elves, dwarves or hobbits. So that’s why I went for a human first, then Norn.. and then the rest are mainly story APs and cultural armor APs. :P

I didn’t play GW1 but I’ve started reading Ghosts of Ascalon and it’s enlightened me to what the Charr were like. This:

In GW we seen them destroy the human kingdom and kill woman, children and elderly. Gwen’s story showed us they had human torture camps. They helped resurrect the titans that could have ended all intelligent life. They held humans for nearly a decade kept barely alive in small cages. They performed ritualistic human sacrifices.

They were bad guys. All of them. Then Pyre comes along and says “uhh yeah, our bad.” And we are just supposed to say “nah bro it’s cool”?

… this is why I have a hard time playing the charr I have just to get the story APs. It’s incredibly hard to see him as any type of hero.

Thing is… those things were done 250 years ago, so basically people are saying that it’s bad to blame humans from taking away charr lands because it was generations ago, and yet people are reacting bad to Charr from this generation for things that others of the same race did 250 years ago (and that the legion responsible for all that is currently at war against the rest of the Charr). As far as I know there are no signs in game that recent human prisoners during the war were misstreated or tortured, which should be everywhere in charr lands considering that the armistice started just 1 year before the game started, and that there were areas (Lion’s Arch, for example) where humans and charr already coexisted peacefully for years by then.

Plus, Humans weren’t entirely goody heroes back then either, considering that there were warriors that skinned charr and wore their skins as armor.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Warrior_Charr_Hide_armor

It’s a pile of Elonian protection magic, mixed with a little monk training,
wrapped up in some crazy ritualist hoo-ha from Cantha.
A real grab bag of ‘you can’t hurt me. They’re called Guardians.

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Posted by: XelNigma.6315

XelNigma.6315

On the opposite side of the fence, I made a Charr for the following reasons.

- I prefer beast races
- Their backstory was interesting
- Their current civilization is steampunk
- They have a very unique culture
- DEM VOICES

And dont forget that they almost wiped out the human race. If only they could have this game would be much better.

Charr = Best Race

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Posted by: Nuka Cola.8520

Nuka Cola.8520

I only play with humans and that goes to all rpg’s.

Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.

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Posted by: Donari.5237

Donari.5237

I had a charr since beta. I’m only now working on her again. Why not play her?

- made her an Elementalist and being that squishy isn’t fun
- had trouble getting into a charr mindset (still do) so she played pretty stiffly
- was in an RP warband but didn’t want to stop repping my main guild because I missed the chatter
- the RP warband disbanded due to RL illnesses of the leader(s)
- didn’t like armor on her (heavy armor might have looked better to me)
- she was a slender cute snow leopard, and I found myself gravitating to more imposing charr looks
- running feels slow and lumbering and jumping is a clumsy endeavor
- the tail keeps swishing. I have a weird thing where I can’t deal with flicking motion such as ceiling fans, flapping paper, orbs whirling around a character, anything that makes my eyes jitter to follow the motion. I get queasy. Heck, people running in circles around my character make me move away to avoid puking. So the tail gets to me, albeit more so on other characters than on my charr since I can pan my camera out to avoid her tail dominating my view.

Why start playing her now? I’ve hit 80 on all the professions I enjoy. My guild has some stellar charr players that have reinspired me. I do love the Charr culture and attitude even if I suck at being that abrasively assertive. I’ve changed her look drastically to something much more imposing. I’m trying different weapon combos out rather than staff.

But I’m still not likely to play her too much.

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Posted by: Windu The Forbidden One.6045

Windu The Forbidden One.6045

Thing is… those things were done 250 years ago, so basically people are saying that it’s bad to blame humans from taking away charr lands because it was generations ago, and yet people are reacting bad to Charr from this generation for things that others of the same race did 250 years ago

I don’t know about everyone else but the reason I still blame the charr is because many people still blame the human race, the war with the charr ended only a year ago and the charr weren’t only planning to take back their land, they intended to destroy orr and kryta as well, which wasn’t part of their former territory.

As far as I know there are no signs in game that recent human prisoners during the war were misstreated or tortured.

Actually, there is a human in the black citadel (forgot his name) that lives in the Gladium Canton, if you talk to him he tells you he was imprisoned by the charr for years. He was only a merchant but they imprisoned him simply for being human.

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You’re aware that the humans took the land from the charr in the first place right?

Centuries ago yes, you can’t blame the current generation (or the gw1 generation) for what happened such a long time ago. Most lands/nations in the real world once belonged to someone else, that doesn’t mean we can just throw the current inhabitants out.

But yet people are blaming the current Charr for something their ANCESTORS did. Hypocrites, don’t you think?

If they are half as obnoxious as Evon, I’m not gonna play them :/

chuckle As much or more so. Just wandering around the charr area and listening to the NPCs…..just wow.

Black Citadel? The NPCs in there seem rather…meh, unless you’re near the north exit or the crafting section. One NPC conversation deals with two humans and a Charr, which I rather like since it basically amounts to that Charr protecting the humans because “Everybody will be protected under the law here,” or something to that degree. Might be because of the recent attempts at that peace treaty/cease-fire.

Though if you really want to hear some good charr dialogue, get near the children at the northwest side of the Plains of Ashford and listen to them ask the soldier questions, it gets pretty kitten funny.

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I cannot touch their fluffy tail and I don’t want to be teased like that.

Also I think the races beliefs values and goals are trite and kittene and they need to be culled.

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I greatly prefer playing humanoid characters.. so no beasts, funky coloured dark elves, dwarves or hobbits. So that’s why I went for a human first, then Norn.. and then the rest are mainly story APs and cultural armor APs. :P

I didn’t play GW1 but I’ve started reading Ghosts of Ascalon and it’s enlightened me to what the Charr were like. This:

In GW we seen them destroy the human kingdom and kill woman, children and elderly. Gwen’s story showed us they had human torture camps. They helped resurrect the titans that could have ended all intelligent life. They held humans for nearly a decade kept barely alive in small cages. They performed ritualistic human sacrifices.

They were bad guys. All of them. Then Pyre comes along and says “uhh yeah, our bad.” And we are just supposed to say “nah bro it’s cool”?

… this is why I have a hard time playing the charr I have just to get the story APs. It’s incredibly hard to see him as any type of hero.

Thing is… those things were done 250 years ago, so basically people are saying that it’s bad to blame humans from taking away charr lands because it was generations ago, and yet people are reacting bad to Charr from this generation for things that others of the same race did 250 years ago (and that the legion responsible for all that is currently at war against the rest of the Charr). As far as I know there are no signs in game that recent human prisoners during the war were misstreated or tortured, which should be everywhere in charr lands considering that the armistice started just 1 year before the game started, and that there were areas (Lion’s Arch, for example) where humans and charr already coexisted peacefully for years by then.

Plus, Humans weren’t entirely goody heroes back then either, considering that there were warriors that skinned charr and wore their skins as armor.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Warrior_Charr_Hide_armor

It may be 250 years ago in-game lore, but it was only last June for me, that I was still fightin’ the good fight against them. I think people are not really letting the gravity of the Human situation sink in here; and that’s darn-near extinction. The main reason is or is related in some way, to the Charr.

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I love the Charr, all my characters are Charr. Very big fan of beast races.

For all those people claiming lore: Should not have taken their land. All of it was theirs and humans only got it with the help of their gods. Wimpy race got its butt kicked because their gods left them. Says something about survival of the fittest (Not survival of those who take advantage of ascended beings).

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I love the Charr, all my characters are Charr. Very big fan of beast races.

For all those people claiming lore: Should not of taken their land. All of it was theirs and humans only got it with the help of their gods. Wimpy race got its butt kicked because their gods left them. Says something about survival of the fittest (Not survival of those who take advantage of ascended beings).

Charr got their butts kicked the first time around. Guess they shouldn’t have been too wimpy then!

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Why have you not choose a Charr?

I did choose a charr. A charr engineer. Then I deleted him at level 6. A few weeks ago I decided to choose a charr again, a necro this time, so I could experience the Personal Story from the moo-cat perspective. This one made it to the low 30s and the Pact before being replaced by a sylvari. Yes, a sylvari. Now, it’s true I have deleted several sylvari characters, including a low 30s sylvari engineer with 400 in jewelry. I had decided, you see, that these plant ‘people’ and their dear Mother Tree were inherently eeeeevil. That, as they say, would have been that – if Scarlet Briar had not come along and inspired me to reconsider the Children of the Pale Tree. Yes, that Scarlet Briar.

But I digress.

I can’t choose a Charr (for long) because of the way that they are made. The pain-inducing posture, the bizarrely elongated neck, the short (hind) legs, the tail (actually the lack of consideration given the tail in the vast majority of armors currently available), the voice (of the male, at least, haven’t chosen a female charr yet).

Also, why the heck would you wear clothes if you have FUR? That’s built-in natural clothing! I can’t imagine extra clothing over a coat of fur being comfortable, especially in warm weather. Armor, sure, at least the heavy stuff, but I figure a charr who habitually wore heavy armor would strategically shave off some furr here and there to accommodate it. But robes and trench coats and the like – no way! In the summer they’d roast themselves alive.

Which begs the question: how do charr rid themselves of excess heat? Do they sweat? If so, do they sweat through their paws, like cats? Do they pant, like dogs? Or do they undergo spontaneous combustion and join the ranks of the Flame Legion?

Anyway, someday, maybe I might choose a charr again, if for no other reason than to see more of the story from the moo-cat perspective.

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