I would like to suggest the removal of the downed state. I mean, it doesn’t make any sense when you think about it.
People are relying too much on it when in groups. They mindlessly involve into fights and dps, not watching at their HP or trying to stay alive, because “a teammate will get me up”.
With the removal of the downed state and just proceeding to insta-death, people will be more on their toes, watch and monitor what they are doing, and ultimately perform better in group content.
I think it would be interesting to have something like WvW where you can’t rez in combat along with the instant downed state. It’s cool and all, and I’ve had some clutch victories that were pretty awesome because of it, but I’m not really sure why it exists.
Downed state is what also make Gw2 combat unique , its been here since the game launch , downed state gives the people more choice and like Astra sayed Wvw depends a lot on that , if they remove downed state they would have to update a lot of skils like warrior banner that insta revives downed people
Downed state is a critical functionality in WvW small and medium scale combat, removing it would kill all the fun in the game and ruin tactical group combat.
If OP suggest this change because of PvE well kitten PvE.
You say it would add new elements how you fight. Yes, but I also rely on the down state, not because of other player but my build is to make a hell of damage over time but I don’t have a lot of HP. So for me it’s a tactic to just survive the last 10 seconds of the enemy in the down state.
So you have tactics with and without. Also it would be ridiculous to remove it. It’s been there since day 1 and probably 90% or more like this.
It would be silly to remove it in any of the game mode’s. For WvW and PvP it helps balance out the fights specially in x vs. x #players, specially since you can’t rez the dead while in combat in wvw. Then for PvE removing it there would mean more deaths at meta bosses, specially for like Golem where you only have a few seconds to get out of the electric field b4 being downed. However it is anet they do silly things like remove crafting from wvw for a make believe reason lol
not having downed state in wvsw would be awesome. In wvsw and pvp it does more harm than good when it comes to balancing fights….if ur on the loser server you wont be able to kill anyone in wvsw most of the time because of this mechanic. In pvp why should it exist? It just makes clumping all the more prevalent and duo and trio fighter ridiculously unkillable.
Not being able to revive dead people while in the middle of a fight would be awesome for wvsw as well (you can rev people easily while ‘in combat’….u just need to be ooc and thats easy to do). Pve who cares though….anet is always hand holding players by design. I mean the game would be awesome without downed state probably as it would make death a bigger deal…..oh wait u have waypoints everywhere….oh wait u have revive orbs….oh wait…..armour damage and death penalties are nonexistent…see? they don’t want death to have any meaning by default. id support its removal completely from the game. at the same time a more reasonable suggestion would be its removal in certain boss fights….maybe a special poison is in the air and it kills any downed players(that would be eez to do).
anywyas who cares what we think anyways, they wont change it.
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the downed state also offers additional gameplay – do you risk rezzing others? if you are downed can you find a target who is almost dead and trigger a rally? etc. Also Rezzing encourages teamplay and positive behaviors, and its satisfying to manage to rez someone imo.
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Removing downed state makes GW2 like every other MMO – your red bar goes down, you die and have to be rezzed after the fight is over. The only thing you gain by removing it is by making the battles quicker at the cost of removing the additional tactics downed state offers. Plus, each class has unique skills during downed state that further defines the class. And it promotes team unity, something refreshing in MMO’s that often reward personal gain at the expense of strangers. Personally, I love the system and it’s one of the best things about the game.
The downed state is a crucial thing I think for the majority of the playerbase as it REALLY helps those who run the zerk meta. Just imagine if it was taken out, I should imagine other stats might get looked at more. Of course tho having said that does not mean I am for it being taken out. I am on the fence about it myself.
Since when did this business of being a hero become being a business?
I like downed state! Nothing says, “struggle to survive!” while throwing dirt in your enemies face It’s a classic! Plus, I giggle when ever I see a player doing this or just sitting there all helpless and sad looking… (excuse me as I have yet to have my oatmeal this fine morning).
The fight to survive and fight to help others at the right opportunity is a core part of the game that should never go away. I find it rewarding to come back from near death then attack the enemy hard. It makes victory that much sweeter. I think it makes players be more aggressive on the rebound. Helping others come back is rewarding also. ANet did it right and it shouldn’t be changed.
I would like to suggest the removal of the downed state. I mean, it doesn’t make any sense when you think about it.
People are relying too much on it when in groups. They mindlessly involve into fights and dps, not watching at their HP or trying to stay alive, because “a teammate will get me up”.
With the removal of the downed state and just proceeding to insta-death, people will be more on their toes, watch and monitor what they are doing, and ultimately perform better in group content.
History suggests that wouldn’t matter. People mostly don’t want to be downed, because it’s unreliable whether one gets rezzed or not. The fact that people in groups lose health rapidly isn’t evidence that they don’t care — it just shows that they aren’t keeping their health up and there are all sorts of other possible and likely reasons, including unexpected scaling, being used to healing, not being used to interruptions, etc.
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it just shows that they aren’t keeping their health up and there are all sorts of other possible and likely reasons, including unexpected scaling, being used to healing, not being used to interruptions, etc.
And don’t forget the most likely of them all… combat takes second place to the microwave ding for a cooked hotpocket. Not everyone keeps their microwaves by their computer.
The down state is there because everyone was supposed to be a self sufficient hybrid with the down state potentially making everyone play the role of the healer. If they removed it, not only would that mean buffs to general survivability, especially for the paper professions, but it’d also likely lead to the reintroduction to monks, though they’ve already started on that path.
I’ve recommended the removal of the downed state from the beginning. For me, it doesn’t fit with my notion of combat in other games or IRL. That said, it’s a distinctive of this game that, at this late date, appears to be permanent.
I say no to that change. Downed state is what makes this game more attractable to the casual players, and makes it so you have an extra chance to get up and keep going. Imagine 1-shot mechanics with no down state, it’s essentially making the game way harder than it should be.
Who’d do half of the fun stuff ingame if a down meant death? WvW would no longer be interesting, even less people would be running dungeons than they are now, it’d be a nightmare to find anybody willing to do any above average content. Hell, they’d have to rebalance the game from the ground up, which is way too much time spent on removing something that is a primary feature of the game.
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The downed state is good for two reasons. Its a cool mechanic that makes GW2 stand apart from other combat systems, and it generates income for Anet when they sell finishers.
It’s a classic! Plus, I giggle when ever I see a player doing this or just sitting there all helpless and sad looking… (excuse me as I have yet to have my oatmeal this fine morning). 
