Guild Wars 2

If you do not care for PvP and/or your server never holds all parts of the WvWvW needed for the POI’s, vista’s and skill up’s, then how do you finish the Map Completion? Changing servers is risky as you may not get back to your home server if it is full. ANet should remove the WvWvW from the Map Completion. What do the rest of you think?

“This is a PvP/WvW game” should sound familiar to you.

WvW is a huge part of the game so if you want your Gifts of Exploration you should take part in it.

Btw: It’s not the first part about this and all the others didn’t change anything.

WvW is part of pve. Makes perfect sense to include it in map completion.

Give it a try, it’s not as tough as it might seem. I got all 4 maps on 2 characters, and one was level 60ish when I finished him. If you go at the right time, you’ll see very little enemy player action.

Whether it should have been included or not, that ship sailed long ago. It would be wrong to change it now.

I have tryed my server is in the tier two group, there is no slack time in WvWvW for our competitors, they are all on 24/7. So makes it tough to get to all the poi’s.

I dont wvw but had no problem completing it with time you can too but after I spent my time doing it to have this acheive how would it be fair at all for them to take it out

i acknowlege your achievement in completing the map. But, depending on the server you play on, your chances of getting 100% completetion varies greatly. How about a one (maybe 2 for time zone issues) day WvWvW exploration day, where there is no combat?

My server is in the second tier, and do you really want to hold up others game play so you can get a acheive again how is that fair.

omica.6548:

i acknowlege your achievement in completing the map. But, depending on the server you play on, your chances of getting 100% completetion varies greatly. How about a one (maybe 2 for time zone issues) day WvWvW exploration day, where there is no combat?

Hmmm… it really would only need to be an hour or so to allow people to go get vistas and jumping puzzles, just leave the gates open… There’s a forum for suggestions, copy this there.

I appreciate your pain. My tier has been locked out of the green for almost a month and a half BUT I just check in every week and when we change places do a quick run, get everything I can and blam. Done.

It’s not a big deal and for a player experienced enough to get world completion in the rest of the world it shouldn’t be too tricky or terrible.

Where your server spawns on the maps is randomized every week. It’s possible to get everything with time. Time that you have since you’ll still need all of the other components.

I second and third and fourth this motion, if it’s truly a game of choices at no time ever shoud pve players ever be ever forced to ever go into a pvp zones for anything, ever.

Which makes me wonder why they require dungeon runs to complete a monthly.

Ayrilana.1396:

Where your server spawns on the maps is randomized every week. It’s possible to get everything with time. Time that you have since you’ll still need all of the other components.

Ok, i did not know that, our server has been on the red team for as long as i have been playing in WvWvW. Been at 93% completion for over a month. But, i did as one suggested and put in a suggestion for a day of peace in WvWvW.

@OP: This makes about as much sense as removing all the monsters from WvW since that’s PvE content and some people just want to do the PvP portion of WvW….

It’s part of the challenge. Getting gifts of exploration isn’t as simple as “I just need to spend x amount of time walking around and stuff and after x amount of time I get reward” – you actually have to “earn” them. That may (in your case, it does) involve getting your hands dirty and stepping out of your comfort zone.

Ayrilana.1396:

Where your server spawns on the maps is randomized every week. It’s possible to get everything with time. Time that you have since you’ll still need all of the other components.

This is not true at all.

The colors and places correspond to your ranking at the beginning of the WvW week. Green being the team highest ranked.

tigirius.9014:

I second and third and fourth this motion, if it’s truly a game of choices at no time ever shoud pve players ever be ever forced to ever go into a pvp zones for anything, ever.

Which makes me wonder why they require dungeon runs to complete a monthly.

This is incorrect. It’s a game of choices, but choices have a cost and consequence.

The part you’re not forced, is where you’re not forced to try for a legendary or even ascended gear.

If you -choose- to want those things, then don’t complain about what you need to do to get them.

I’ve spent 3 weeks just to get 2 POI’s in EB. It’s hard but have patience, and try to check the maps daily.

Sounds like someone needs to Man-Up. With a commander’s help I took the last 2 POI forts I needed to finish map completion. Maybe Try asking one to help you move a horde to the ones you need. Or just keep your eye on it. You will get it eventually with server resets either way.
WvWvW is an extreme form of PvE, not sure why you don’t like it. Enemy players can’t talk to you, they are just mobs with advanced intelligence (actually some are less intelligent from mobs). Just so you know, completing that map gives you PvP related items only with no money. If you don’t like PvP that much there’s no reason for you to completely 100% the world map. The overall reward is meant for Legendary, which requires you to take part in every type of activity the game has to offer, with the exception of Spvp.

They don’t need to remove the WvW maps from map completion but I do believe they need to only have you complete 1 of the 3 non EB maps. All 3 are the same and I don’t really see the point in exploring the same map 3×.

Ayrilana.1396:

Where your server spawns on the maps is randomized every week. It’s possible to get everything with time. Time that you have since you’ll still need all of the other components.

Its not random – its based on how well you did the previous week.

Shrug. It still had a chance to change every week. I hadn’t paid much attention to the rankings and just assumed it was random.

Where is the WvW area on the World Map?

If you want to explore 100% of the world, you need to explore 100% of the world.

Anyway, the only benefit for dinging 100% is the gifts of exploration needed to make a legendary – and if you want to make a legendary, you’ll need to do a lot more in WvW than just run around exploring it.

This is a PvP game, deal with it.

Tachenon.5270:

Where is the WvW area on the World Map?

Where is the Chantry of Secrets on the World Map?

Just cause they named the achievement “World Completion” it doesn’t mean that it has to be limited to what you can see if you hit the M button.

nachtnebel.9168:

Tachenon.5270:

Where is the WvW area on the World Map?

Where is then Chantry of Secrets on the World Map?

Just cause they named the achievement “World Completion” it doesn’t mean that it has to be limited to what you can see if you hit the M button.

The first island south of the zone in entrance from Lion’s Arch. It’s where you fought the Asura ( I think) for the skill point. Just go to the back of the cave.

Ayrilana.1396:

nachtnebel.9168:

Tachenon.5270:

Where is the WvW area on the World Map?

Where is the Chantry of Secrets on the World Map?

Just cause they named the achievement “World Completion” it doesn’t mean that it has to be limited to what you can see if you hit the M button.

The first island south of the zone in entrance from Lion’s Arch. It’s where you fought the Asura ( I think) for the skill point. Just go to the back of the cave.

I know where it is, it was mere a rhetorical question to Tachenon since the Chantry of Secrets POIs is required for World Completion as well but, just like the WvW Maps, you don’t see it on the World Map, in both cases you are only able to find the entrance.

Personally, I do not think that WvW should have been included into Map Completion, for the simple fact that at no time does any part of the story lead a character to WvW content. Granted this is Guild Wars, centered around WvW and what not…but WvW and PvP are both optional parts of the game and in no way integrated at all into the story.

But Fayte you main a Necro. Surely WvW should be fine for you as it’s one of the better classes there.

The thread…

It lives!

IT LIVES!!! cue maniacal laughter

omica.6548:

If you do not care for PvP and/or your server never holds all parts of the WvWvW needed for the POI’s, vista’s and skill up’s, then how do you finish the Map Completion? Changing servers is risky as you may not get back to your home server if it is full. ANet should remove the WvWvW from the Map Completion. What do the rest of you think?

Map COMPLETION means 100%, so cut the QQ and get into WvW..
—> Effort —> Reward

I hate the PvE carnivals, so I’d rather have those silly PvE maps removed

Tribio.8531:

omica.6548:

If you do not care for PvP and/or your server never holds all parts of the WvWvW needed for the POI’s, vista’s and skill up’s, then how do you finish the Map Completion? Changing servers is risky as you may not get back to your home server if it is full. ANet should remove the WvWvW from the Map Completion. What do the rest of you think?

Map COMPLETION means 100%, so cut the QQ and get into WvW..
—> Effort —> Reward

I hate the PvE carnivals, so I’d rather have those silly PvE maps removed

His post was 2 years ago. His last post was 4 months ago. Imo, he isn’t waiting for a reply.

Omica has left the forum.

This is the sole reason why I can’t finish the legendary I’m working on….so I’m working on the next one already, who knows by the time i finish mapping WvW I may be able to make 2 legendaries in 1 go

Exeon.4358:

This is the sole reason why I can’t finish the legendary I’m working on….so I’m working on the next one already, who knows by the time i finish mapping WvW I may be able to make 2 legendaries in 1 go

That’s one of the better attitudes I’ve seen about this topic.

Dasenthal.6520:

How do you guys feel about players who wvw exclusively though? Are we not allowed to like shinies? We have to go PvE if we want any shiny weapon, and yet we don’t make forum posts complaining (largely because we realize we’re the minority)about being locked out of dungeon skins, or luminescent skins (specifically referencing things available in Spvp, because Spvp still does not equal wvw).
Yet you’re complaining about 4 maps:
76 Points of Interest
13 Skill points
40 vistas.
25 Waypoints (All given btw)
and yet…
There are
301 hearts (Not included in wvw)
646 Points of interest (722 total- 76 listed above)
189 skill points (202 total- 13 listed above)
226 vista’s (266 total -40 listed above)
482 Waypoints (507 total – 25 listed above)

Total all that up (using totals)= Hearts + POI’s+ SP+ V’s+ WP’s =1998 things need for map completion.
Things need for wvw map completion = Hearts (0) + POI’s (76) + SP (13) +V’s (40) +WP (Functionally 0, but i’ll give you the benefit of the doubt 25)=154

154/1998= roughly 8%
You guys (PvE’ers exclusively) have to play 8% of the game you don’t like to get your legendary (or your achievement, what ever the motivator is). We (WvW’ers exclusively) have to play 92% (more than 11 times as much) of the game that we don’t want to for our legendaries (I don’t know a single WvW’er who actually has the nerve to say “I just wanted the achievement” so…)
And guess what: we do it, we might cuss and moan to our guild mates, but we do it. So, like I said earlier:

Dasenthal.6520:

SideNote:
If you want legendary but don’t want wvw: Buy the kitten.
If you don’t want legendary but want map completion: Deal with the kitten
If you want map completion but refuse to deal with the kitten: Live without the Kitten.

Cheers!

Just dropping this off because I always chuckle when I see these threads.

Banquetto.9521:

If you want to explore 100% of the world, you need to explore 100% of the world.

So how come I don’t need to explore any dungeons or fractals, pvp arenas or edge of the mists?

Besides, do WvWers actually want players who are only running around to cap points to take up slots from actual contributing fighters?

Shinzan.2908:

Banquetto.9521:

If you want to explore 100% of the world, you need to explore 100% of the world.

So how come I don’t need to explore any dungeons or fractals, pvp arenas or edge of the mists?

Besides, do WvWers actually want players who are only running around to cap points to take up slots from actual contributing fighters?

Easy kills for the real WvWers. I really know jack about WvW, but I’m assuming you get points for each kill? To me, it’s a pretty lame move to kill people who are obviously just trying to clear the map, but hey, some people take this stuff seriously…. >>;

I used to be pretty against WvW requirement for map completion, but last week my server got pitted against two less active ones, and I took the opportunity to map out most of it and found it’s not nearly as difficult as I thought. Granted, it’s easier for my server at the moment than it has been in the past, but EB is the only map that might present a real challenge to completion, as the borderlands can be done as your team rotates into that color.

Actually, the only thing i’m missing for 100% completion is one of the vistas in blue’s garrison, so here’s hoping my server is blue come reset time tonight.

Dasenthal.6520:

You guys (PvE’ers exclusively) have to play 8% of the game you don’t like to get your legendary (or your achievement, what ever the motivator is). We (WvW’ers exclusively) have to play 92% (more than 11 times as much) of the game that we don’t want to for our legendaries (I don’t know a single WvW’er who actually has the nerve to say “I just wanted the achievement” so…)
And guess what: we do it, we might cuss and moan to our guild mates, but we do it.

Actually as someone who is nowadays doing more PvE then anything else, the “92%” applies to PVE’ers as well, every character I have that I haven’t mapped on has in between 5-10% of the map done, which consists off useful waypoints in cities and rushing to certain maps to get a waypoint for dungeons.

So it doesn’t really matter if you are a PvE, PvP or WvW player we’re all in the same boat when it comes to map completion, WvW players are also limited to mapping if you don’t own a keep, and the main problem people have with the current system isn’t “I have to go to WvW this sucks” It’s more on the lines of “My server can’t take their keep on EB so I have to wait a full week and get lucky on what color my server get’s”

I would have probably cared a lot more if I was making my first legendary, but at this point waiting a week doesn’t matter all that much, still I can understand why people are annoyed by it.

Exeon.4358:

the main problem people have with the current system isn’t “I have to go to WvW this sucks” It’s more on the lines of “My server can’t take their keep on EB so I have to wait a full week and get lucky on what color my server get’s”

That is exactly my problem. I need 1 POI and 1 Vista in Eternal Battlegrounds for World Completion, the Veloka Tower POI and the Vista just North of it. However, for me to get this I need my server (Desolation) to be red because for as long as I’ve been trying to get these final two things I haven’t seen my server take that spot once.

Tachyon.5897:

(Desolation) to be red

3 weeks ago.
http://mos.millenium.org/eu/matchups/history/254

5 weeks ago.
http://mos.millenium.org/eu/matchups/history/250

8 weeks ago.
http://mos.millenium.org/eu/matchups/history/242

Andred.1087:

Actually, the only thing i’m missing for 100% completion is one of the vistas in blue’s garrison, so here’s hoping my server is blue come reset time tonight.

Fortune has favored me on this day!