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Retiring BL Weapon Sets and Selling Sets
Not a bad idea, I can think of a set or two I would buy.
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You’re going to find a lot of resistance to this idea, even though I don’t mind it myself. Right now, people buy black lion chests not to get the skins for themselves, but to sell the skins for profit. If everyone knows skins will eventually be available they lose value. People will wait. People will stop buying (or farming) as many black lion keys.
It will affect the economy.
You’re going to find a lot of resistance to this idea, even though I don’t mind it myself. Right now, people buy black lion chests not to get the skins for themselves, but to sell the skins for profit. If everyone knows skins will eventually be available they lose value. People will wait. People will stop buying (or farming) as many black lion keys.
It will affect the economy.
Good points, but don’t you think that the year delay would address this ?
I know a lot of people would wait if we were talking a week, but a year ? A significant part of Anet’s business plan is based on the fact that a lot of people would rather pull out their credit card to buy something now rather than wait to earn gold in game.
ANet won’t do this because it will hurt their Key sales.
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Some of the older weapon sell for 7 ticket. I think the problem is it is weird the weapons end up selling cheaper for say 10$ or 20$.
You’re going to find a lot of resistance to this idea, even though I don’t mind it myself. Right now, people buy black lion chests not to get the skins for themselves, but to sell the skins for profit. If everyone knows skins will eventually be available they lose value. People will wait. People will stop buying (or farming) as many black lion keys.
It will affect the economy.
Good points, but don’t you think that the year delay would address this ?
I know a lot of people would wait if we were talking a week, but a year ? A significant part of Anet’s business plan is based on the fact that a lot of people would rather pull out their credit card to buy something now rather than wait to earn gold in game.
There’s a lot of things to spend gold on. And I don’t need any single skin right now. Plenty of skins in the game that I like. I might consider buying a skin I particularly like off the TP for 60 gold. But if I knew that in a year I could have it for cash, I wouldn’t personally buy it because there are things I can’t buy off the cash shop and those would take precedence.
There’s no shortage of stuff I want to spend gold on…and I don’t buy gems to convert to gold.
ANet won’t do this because it will hurt their Key sales.
Thats wrong, because Anet can always add new weapon sets for BL-Keys to add new wood to the sell-fire that brings people to buy keys to get ticket scraps ect.
ANet always will sit on the longer end of the table and is able to always add new skins when they think that the sales from an other skin get too low ect.
Thats also a part of the reason, why anet removed the winter set and the sclerite weapons in the past, because compared to the other existing sets nobody bought these two anymore nearly and the other part was the space problem naturlly.
ANet is again currently at the point, where the space of the skin vendor is completely full and where they would have to remove older sets to create space for new weapon skins.
My guess is, they will remove next the Aetherized Weapons and Dragons Jade Weapons, maybe also the Dreamthistle Weapons.
So basically everything, that was part of Season 1, which is long over now …
That would give Net space for the future for 2-3 new weapon skin sets, before they would have to remove some odler sets again. If they’d remove everything from Season 1 really, it would even make it remove the Pyro Weapons, which are the oldest weapons, and seriously, who the heck wants to pay 7 tickets for such a weapon, when all other cost 1 a short period to max 5??. So basically 2-4 slots that could get free by that move
I also think that Anet should add all those Weapon Sets, that get removed from the Vendor should be receiveable in different ways in the game from that point on and through the gemstore for a direct price but then not as skins, but as direct accountbound weapons (what includes automatically the skin unlock, but it can’t be sold in the TP then, which is the only reason,why the community might rage up)
For example:
Pay 2000 Gems and unlock the complete Sclerite Weapon set.
You will get then an item via Mail, with that you can summon once a NPC, that will give you all the accountbound Sclerite Weapons.
Those weapons wouln’t also be salvageable, nor throwable into the mystic forge.
You either use them, or destroy them.
The Gem Store could receive a new category for this – “Weapon Packages”, or Anet could put those Weapon Packages under Upgrades like unlocking this way also more Finisher Skins for your account as Upgrade.
In the game self, those removed weapon skins should become rare drops from beating the World Bosses, or finding them rarely in the Jumping Puzzle Reward Chests, or become craftable through new hard and time gated Craftign recipes and so on.
Anet has more than enough options open for that …
Personally I like the idea behind sub classes ~ quoted from Chris Whiteside
You’re going to find a lot of resistance to this idea, even though I don’t mind it myself. Right now, people buy black lion chests not to get the skins for themselves, but to sell the skins for profit. If everyone knows skins will eventually be available they lose value. People will wait. People will stop buying (or farming) as many black lion keys.
It will affect the economy.
Good points, but don’t you think that the year delay would address this ?
I know a lot of people would wait if we were talking a week, but a year ? A significant part of Anet’s business plan is based on the fact that a lot of people would rather pull out their credit card to buy something now rather than wait to earn gold in game.
There’s a lot of things to spend gold on. And I don’t need any single skin right now. Plenty of skins in the game that I like. I might consider buying a skin I particularly like off the TP for 60 gold. But if I knew that in a year I could have it for cash, I wouldn’t personally buy it because there are things I can’t buy off the cash shop and those would take precedence.
There’s no shortage of stuff I want to spend gold on…and I don’t buy gems to convert to gold.
Yeah but you are not some impatient kid. You grew up in an era where waiting until you could afford something, or being thrifty in general, was a virtue. The gemshop works because a lot of people want their shiny, or whatever, now !
You’re going to find a lot of resistance to this idea, even though I don’t mind it myself. Right now, people buy black lion chests not to get the skins for themselves, but to sell the skins for profit. If everyone knows skins will eventually be available they lose value. People will wait. People will stop buying (or farming) as many black lion keys.
It will affect the economy.
Good points, but don’t you think that the year delay would address this ?
I know a lot of people would wait if we were talking a week, but a year ? A significant part of Anet’s business plan is based on the fact that a lot of people would rather pull out their credit card to buy something now rather than wait to earn gold in game.
There’s a lot of things to spend gold on. And I don’t need any single skin right now. Plenty of skins in the game that I like. I might consider buying a skin I particularly like off the TP for 60 gold. But if I knew that in a year I could have it for cash, I wouldn’t personally buy it because there are things I can’t buy off the cash shop and those would take precedence.
There’s no shortage of stuff I want to spend gold on…and I don’t buy gems to convert to gold.
Yeah but you are not some impatient kid. You grew up in an era where waiting until you could afford something, or being thrifty in general, was a virtue. The gemshop works because a lot of people want their shiny, or whatever, now !
The average age of the playerbase is probably higher than most people think. The average gamer is now over 30.
I’m not thinking kids are driving the gem sales these days.
You’re going to find a lot of resistance to this idea, even though I don’t mind it myself. Right now, people buy black lion chests not to get the skins for themselves, but to sell the skins for profit. If everyone knows skins will eventually be available they lose value. People will wait. People will stop buying (or farming) as many black lion keys.
It will affect the economy.
Good points, but don’t you think that the year delay would address this ?
I know a lot of people would wait if we were talking a week, but a year ? A significant part of Anet’s business plan is based on the fact that a lot of people would rather pull out their credit card to buy something now rather than wait to earn gold in game.
There’s a lot of things to spend gold on. And I don’t need any single skin right now. Plenty of skins in the game that I like. I might consider buying a skin I particularly like off the TP for 60 gold. But if I knew that in a year I could have it for cash, I wouldn’t personally buy it because there are things I can’t buy off the cash shop and those would take precedence.
There’s no shortage of stuff I want to spend gold on…and I don’t buy gems to convert to gold.
Yeah but you are not some impatient kid. You grew up in an era where waiting until you could afford something, or being thrifty in general, was a virtue. The gemshop works because a lot of people want their shiny, or whatever, now !
The average age of the playerbase is probably higher than most people think. The average gamer is now over 30.
I’m not thinking kids are driving the gem sales these days.
Well, when I say kids I am not talking about teenagers (or younger) any more. I should have probably said, “kids at heart,” though. People who get excited by a new skin, or an idea for a new character requiring a character slot purchase, etc.
Still, gem purchases are driven, in part at least, by the fact that many people are not willing to wait. I know that when my wife sees a new skin that would be, “absolutely perfect,” for her guardian she does not want to wait.
You’re going to find a lot of resistance to this idea, even though I don’t mind it myself. Right now, people buy black lion chests not to get the skins for themselves, but to sell the skins for profit. If everyone knows skins will eventually be available they lose value. People will wait. People will stop buying (or farming) as many black lion keys.
It will affect the economy.
Good points, but don’t you think that the year delay would address this ?
I know a lot of people would wait if we were talking a week, but a year ? A significant part of Anet’s business plan is based on the fact that a lot of people would rather pull out their credit card to buy something now rather than wait to earn gold in game.
There’s a lot of things to spend gold on. And I don’t need any single skin right now. Plenty of skins in the game that I like. I might consider buying a skin I particularly like off the TP for 60 gold. But if I knew that in a year I could have it for cash, I wouldn’t personally buy it because there are things I can’t buy off the cash shop and those would take precedence.
There’s no shortage of stuff I want to spend gold on…and I don’t buy gems to convert to gold.
Yeah but you are not some impatient kid. You grew up in an era where waiting until you could afford something, or being thrifty in general, was a virtue. The gemshop works because a lot of people want their shiny, or whatever, now !
The average age of the playerbase is probably higher than most people think. The average gamer is now over 30.
I’m not thinking kids are driving the gem sales these days.
Well, when I say kids I am not talking about teenagers (or younger) any more. I should have probably said, “kids at heart,” though. People who get excited by a new skin, or an idea for a new character requiring a character slot purchase, etc.
Still, gem purchases are driven, in part at least, by the fact that many people are not willing to wait. I know that when my wife sees a new skin that would be, “absolutely perfect,” for her guardian she does not want to wait.
If you don’t think the demand would go down, that’s entirely possible. I simply think it would. I think there are enough people that would wait, because they’d want other things.
Not everyone maybe not most people but enough people to affect prices. I don’t know that Anet is going to risk it, based on that.
Again, I’m not against the idea. In fact, it would benefit me.
You’re going to find a lot of resistance to this idea, even though I don’t mind it myself. Right now, people buy black lion chests not to get the skins for themselves, but to sell the skins for profit. If everyone knows skins will eventually be available they lose value. People will wait. People will stop buying (or farming) as many black lion keys.
It will affect the economy.
Good points, but don’t you think that the year delay would address this ?
I know a lot of people would wait if we were talking a week, but a year ? A significant part of Anet’s business plan is based on the fact that a lot of people would rather pull out their credit card to buy something now rather than wait to earn gold in game.
There’s a lot of things to spend gold on. And I don’t need any single skin right now. Plenty of skins in the game that I like. I might consider buying a skin I particularly like off the TP for 60 gold. But if I knew that in a year I could have it for cash, I wouldn’t personally buy it because there are things I can’t buy off the cash shop and those would take precedence.
There’s no shortage of stuff I want to spend gold on…and I don’t buy gems to convert to gold.
Yeah but you are not some impatient kid. You grew up in an era where waiting until you could afford something, or being thrifty in general, was a virtue. The gemshop works because a lot of people want their shiny, or whatever, now !
The average age of the playerbase is probably higher than most people think. The average gamer is now over 30.
I’m not thinking kids are driving the gem sales these days.
Well, when I say kids I am not talking about teenagers (or younger) any more. I should have probably said, “kids at heart,” though. People who get excited by a new skin, or an idea for a new character requiring a character slot purchase, etc.
Still, gem purchases are driven, in part at least, by the fact that many people are not willing to wait. I know that when my wife sees a new skin that would be, “absolutely perfect,” for her guardian she does not want to wait.
If you don’t think the demand would go down, that’s entirely possible. I simply think it would. I think there are enough people that would wait, because they’d want other things.
Not everyone maybe not most people but enough people to affect prices. I don’t know that Anet is going to risk it, based on that.
Again, I’m not against the idea. In fact, it would benefit me.
My apologies. I am not trying to say that demand would be completely unaffected. Merely that I think the market could bear what I think would be a minor stress which would lessen the reliance on gambling as a source of income for the game.
You’re going to find a lot of resistance to this idea, even though I don’t mind it myself. Right now, people buy black lion chests not to get the skins for themselves, but to sell the skins for profit. If everyone knows skins will eventually be available they lose value. People will wait. People will stop buying (or farming) as many black lion keys.
It will affect the economy.
Good points, but don’t you think that the year delay would address this ?
I know a lot of people would wait if we were talking a week, but a year ? A significant part of Anet’s business plan is based on the fact that a lot of people would rather pull out their credit card to buy something now rather than wait to earn gold in game.
There’s a lot of things to spend gold on. And I don’t need any single skin right now. Plenty of skins in the game that I like. I might consider buying a skin I particularly like off the TP for 60 gold. But if I knew that in a year I could have it for cash, I wouldn’t personally buy it because there are things I can’t buy off the cash shop and those would take precedence.
There’s no shortage of stuff I want to spend gold on…and I don’t buy gems to convert to gold.
Yeah but you are not some impatient kid. You grew up in an era where waiting until you could afford something, or being thrifty in general, was a virtue. The gemshop works because a lot of people want their shiny, or whatever, now !
The average age of the playerbase is probably higher than most people think. The average gamer is now over 30.
I’m not thinking kids are driving the gem sales these days.
Well, when I say kids I am not talking about teenagers (or younger) any more. I should have probably said, “kids at heart,” though. People who get excited by a new skin, or an idea for a new character requiring a character slot purchase, etc.
Still, gem purchases are driven, in part at least, by the fact that many people are not willing to wait. I know that when my wife sees a new skin that would be, “absolutely perfect,” for her guardian she does not want to wait.
If you don’t think the demand would go down, that’s entirely possible. I simply think it would. I think there are enough people that would wait, because they’d want other things.
Not everyone maybe not most people but enough people to affect prices. I don’t know that Anet is going to risk it, based on that.
Again, I’m not against the idea. In fact, it would benefit me.
My apologies. I am not trying to say that demand would be completely unaffected. Merely that I think the market could bear what I think would be a minor stress which would lessen the reliance on gambling as a source of income for the game.
Well I hope they do it. lol
I’m confused about this part:
’ Pay 2000 Gems and unlock the complete Sclerite Weapon set.
You will get then an item via Mail, with that you can summon once a NPC, that will give you all the accountbound Sclerite Weapons.
Those weapons wouln’t also be salvageable, nor throwable into the mystic forge.
You either use them, or destroy them. ’
Are they removed from the Wardrobe then? Can no longer be unlocked? They suddenly became weapons instead of skins? What stats have they? What level requirements? What rarity?
I’m confused about this part:
’ Pay 2000 Gems and unlock the complete Sclerite Weapon set.
You will get then an item via Mail, with that you can summon once a NPC, that will give you all the accountbound Sclerite Weapons.Those weapons wouln’t also be salvageable, nor throwable into the mystic forge.
You either use them, or destroy them. ’Are they removed from the Wardrobe then? Can no longer be unlocked? They suddenly became weapons instead of skins? What stats have they? What level requirements? What rarity?
Nothing of that happened, Its just a suggestion from me what Anet should do in the future with those BL Weapon Skins that they remove from the Vendor, like currently Winter and Sclerite Weapons, which you can’t receive anymore at this point, unless you buy them from the TP for ridiculous high prices for a single skin what makes profit only rich players in becoming even more richer while the rest stays poor … and I personally don’t support this to happen. If I buy these skins, I want to support Anet directly with it, not any silly rich players that I don’t know that just got somehow lucky to get on that Skin and want to make with it profit now, from what Anet has nothing
If Anet should ever consider to make my suggestion go live into the game somehow, then I’d want it to happen that way: (to answer your questions)
- Level 80
- Exotic
- Free chooseable Stats on Double Click when wanting to equip the Weapon the 1st time
- They need to become accountbound Weapons instead of Skins, so that they can’t be sold in the Trading Post, thus also can’t be able then to affect anyhow the Game Economy
like I proposed it, anet would have that way with the Weapon Packages a new way to make money with them and players wold have a direct way for gems to get direct a complete Weapon Set and not just by RNG the chance to get 1 single item out of the set.
Anet has sold in the past of GW1 already complete SKILL UNLOCK PACKAGES and they sold also Weapon Packages basically from preorder Factions/Nightfall, if I remember myself right. So what should stop them to sell also in the Shop Weapon Packages as Account Upgrades to get that way complete Weapon Sets.
We can also buy Armor Sets in the gem Store, so why not also Weapon Sets.
The Black Lion Sets that got removed from NPC Vendor would fit so perfectly for that to start with and any other, that would follow in the future.
I personally would instantly buy the complete Phoenix Weapon Set under a direct buy price of Gems as a Weapon Package for the Upgrade Section of the Gem Store, if Anet would put that Set there for sell, after having it removed first from the NPC Vendor to make there space for a new other Ticket Weapon Set one day.
Personally I like the idea behind sub classes ~ quoted from Chris Whiteside
You’re going to find a lot of resistance to this idea, even though I don’t mind it myself. Right now, people buy black lion chests not to get the skins for themselves, but to sell the skins for profit. If everyone knows skins will eventually be available they lose value. People will wait. People will stop buying (or farming) as many black lion keys.
It will affect the economy.
Good points, but don’t you think that the year delay would address this ?
I know a lot of people would wait if we were talking a week, but a year ? A significant part of Anet’s business plan is based on the fact that a lot of people would rather pull out their credit card to buy something now rather than wait to earn gold in game.
There’s a lot of things to spend gold on. And I don’t need any single skin right now. Plenty of skins in the game that I like. I might consider buying a skin I particularly like off the TP for 60 gold. But if I knew that in a year I could have it for cash, I wouldn’t personally buy it because there are things I can’t buy off the cash shop and those would take precedence.
There’s no shortage of stuff I want to spend gold on…and I don’t buy gems to convert to gold.
Yeah but you are not some impatient kid. You grew up in an era where waiting until you could afford something, or being thrifty in general, was a virtue. The gemshop works because a lot of people want their shiny, or whatever, now !
The average age of the playerbase is probably higher than most people think. The average gamer is now over 30.
I’m not thinking kids are driving the gem sales these days.
I’m not a legal adult, and I haven’t spent $0.01 on gems.
You’re going to find a lot of resistance to this idea, even though I don’t mind it myself. Right now, people buy black lion chests not to get the skins for themselves, but to sell the skins for profit. If everyone knows skins will eventually be available they lose value. People will wait. People will stop buying (or farming) as many black lion keys.
It will affect the economy.
Good points, but don’t you think that the year delay would address this ?
I know a lot of people would wait if we were talking a week, but a year ? A significant part of Anet’s business plan is based on the fact that a lot of people would rather pull out their credit card to buy something now rather than wait to earn gold in game.
There’s a lot of things to spend gold on. And I don’t need any single skin right now. Plenty of skins in the game that I like. I might consider buying a skin I particularly like off the TP for 60 gold. But if I knew that in a year I could have it for cash, I wouldn’t personally buy it because there are things I can’t buy off the cash shop and those would take precedence.
There’s no shortage of stuff I want to spend gold on…and I don’t buy gems to convert to gold.
Yeah but you are not some impatient kid. You grew up in an era where waiting until you could afford something, or being thrifty in general, was a virtue. The gemshop works because a lot of people want their shiny, or whatever, now !
The average age of the playerbase is probably higher than most people think. The average gamer is now over 30.
I’m not thinking kids are driving the gem sales these days.
I’m not a legal adult, and I haven’t spent $0.01 on gems.
Supports what I’m saying. But you’re not a very big sample size.
The idea is fairly simple:
To prevent Black Lion merchant tab overload. After a set amount of time (I was thinking initially a year) the Black Lion supply has run out and is pulled from the vendor making room for newer sets. In exchange, the entire set of weapon skins becomes available for 10-20$ worth of gems (account bound on acquire similar to Zenith).
This gives people a chance to pay gold, buy/farm keys and otherwise earn them through current means, but once the time period is up it allows those who started playing much later after a skin set came out to afford them at a reasonable price (instead of half the cost of a precursor or so per skin) while avoiding merchant clutter.
No… because you would ANNIHILATE the tp market…
Sorry if your sense of entitlement can’t be fulfilled… Things that were out in the past that have SIGNIFICANT value should NEVER be released for a cheap gem price… EVER
You’re going to find a lot of resistance to this idea, even though I don’t mind it myself. Right now, people buy black lion chests not to get the skins for themselves, but to sell the skins for profit. If everyone knows skins will eventually be available they lose value. People will wait. People will stop buying (or farming) as many black lion keys.
It will affect the economy.
Good points, but don’t you think that the year delay would address this ?
I know a lot of people would wait if we were talking a week, but a year ? A significant part of Anet’s business plan is based on the fact that a lot of people would rather pull out their credit card to buy something now rather than wait to earn gold in game.
There’s a lot of things to spend gold on. And I don’t need any single skin right now. Plenty of skins in the game that I like. I might consider buying a skin I particularly like off the TP for 60 gold. But if I knew that in a year I could have it for cash, I wouldn’t personally buy it because there are things I can’t buy off the cash shop and those would take precedence.
There’s no shortage of stuff I want to spend gold on…and I don’t buy gems to convert to gold.
Yeah but you are not some impatient kid. You grew up in an era where waiting until you could afford something, or being thrifty in general, was a virtue. The gemshop works because a lot of people want their shiny, or whatever, now !
The average age of the playerbase is probably higher than most people think. The average gamer is now over 30.
I’m not thinking kids are driving the gem sales these days.
I’m not a legal adult, and I haven’t spent $0.01 on gems.
Supports what I’m saying. But you’re not a very big sample size.
[notserious]Except now you can twist around what I said into teenagers not supporting the game and that we should all be banned.[/notserious]