Guild Wars 2

Hello,
I just wanted to see if maybe we could get a dev response on this, and see if anyone else would be interested!
I would like to see the (mistforged) hero weapons make their way back into the game. For those that do not know, they were tied to WvW tournaments, which are no longer a thing. Last one being in 2014. I understand the ‘prestige’ factor as there are not a whole lot of these in game, so please don’t make that your rebuttal.
My issue is is that these are absolutely gorgeous weapons with a great animation, and we have no way of obtaining them anymore. To fix this, my suggestion would be keeping them WvW bound, but making them tied to a reward track. Rework the amount of tickets needed or giving like 10 tickets per reward track completion and keeping it at 300.
Just a shot in the dark, but I’m keeping my fingers crossed!
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mistforged_Hero's_weapons

Thanks for taking the time to read

Ah yes, I agree that availability needs to return.
But maybe not in such a form that it would demean the value of the weapons they gave out during the real tournements. So in whatever format they return, it needs to be of equivalent value/effort

Very much agreed. I’m definitely not looking to demean value, but at the same time, make it a goal that can be accomplished. For my own intents and purposes, this would definitely bring me back to WvW. I’d like to hear more full time WvW’ers with suggestions.

I believe there was a dev saying they would make their return in the form of a reward track. Can’t find it ofcourse of this marvelous search function.

Like most other items in this game that people say are “prestigious”, I see no prestige in Mistforged hero weapons. All I see is someone who statistically just transferred to the winning server to get their tickets. Where is the prestige in that? There isn’t any. Of course not everyone did, but statistically there is an extremely high chance that if you have one that you transferred servers to faceroll the competition and not have to work for your tickets.

Instead of a reward track though, I would like to see tickets handed out every 100-200 WvW ranks. Even at 1 ticket every 100 ranks, that still requires a lot of dedication to the game mode to acquire all mistforged skins.

I had a similar post some while ago. I support getting Mistforged weapons back in any possible way. An other possibility idea is to add gift of Heroes in a different reward track. Or make a recipe for it. Don’t really care how or what, as long as it returns somehow.

+1 for spelling and content

I don’t see an easy or obvious solution to this. The devs acknowledge that we aren’t likely to have WvW tournaments any time soon (for a variety of reasons; short version: it burned people out). In effect, as things stand, no one can get any more.

However, these skins were designed as exclusive tournament rewards (with winners having access to them more easily than losers). That leaves ANet with limited choices:

• Give up on the idea that these are special rewards and just make them available through a generic method: badges of honor, reward tracks, proofs of heroics, etc.
• Invent a new ‘mode’ in which they can be obtained.
• Do nothing, their current choice.

The first means ANet has to “waste” the effort that went into making them special. The second means devoting a lot more work, without offering a truly ‘new’ reward. Both options are going to make a lot of people unhappy.

Personally, I’d vote for (1): ANet had a good idea, but it didn’t succeed. (I think the reasons are predictable, but it hardly matters why.) People are always asking for new skins: you have one, why not give it to us?

OriOri.8724:

Like most other items in this game that people say are “prestigious”, I see no prestige in Mistforged hero weapons. All I see is someone who statistically just transferred to the winning server to get their tickets.

You don’t see the entire picture then. Certainly some people could have “strategically” transferred to a world that they thought would win. (That didn’t always work out, as BG|TC|JQ can tell you.) However, the vast majority of players were on “winning” worlds for some months before and after — for them, it might have been a matter of prestige.

However, you didn’t have to be on a winning server to have access to the skins, since you could get tokens for placing, too. Winners just got more tokens. Any prestige was meant to be for tournament participation, not just for winning.

That said, what difference does it make at this point? The acquisition system assumed that we’d have as many tournaments as we (currently) have PvP seasons, so there’d be a steady influx of tokens (for winners & losers); every WvW participant would have access to some of these skins.

Since ANet has all-but-permanently cancelled the idea of tournaments, they should all-but-permanently find a new route to acquire the skins. Otherwise, nearly all that design work is going to have been for nothing.

Here is what we know…

Tyler Bearce.3427:

“The Tier 1 Weapons will be made available in an upcoming Reward Track, much like the armor already is.

We haven’t fully decided how to distribute the T2 Weapons and Armor yet. Though, we are currently leaning towards players purchasing them with a currency that they’d earn as a match reward. We may also set rank requirements for the various pieces, so you’d need to be a relatively high rank(1-2k) to purchase a full set."

I’m in favor of making these available via Reward Track.

Tournaments only rewarded sever selection, thus all remnants of that concept should be eliminated.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Triumphant_armor
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Triumphant_Hero's_armor

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hero's_weapons
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mistforged_Hero's_weapons

Triumphant Hero’s Armor is kinda similar. You have the regular Triumphant Armor that you can get from a reward track, like you can get the Hero’s Weapons from another reward track.

But currently there’s no way to obtain the Mistforged Hero’s Weapons or Triumphant Hero’s Armor. You can preview the armor as it’s in the wardrobe in the bank window.

I’m guessing they have plans to release both the weapons and armor eventually.

The thing about the Mistforged Hero’s Weapons was that it would unlock the skin for both versions. But we have a reward track for only the regular Hero’s Weapons, so I’m assuming if they bring back Mistforged it will only unlock the skin for the Mistforged version.

Then again, people have been complaining about the state of WvW for many months (such as it’s dead, the rewards suck, etc.), and ArenaNet hasn’t said, or done much, about it. So it could be quite a while before we get the Mistforged Hero’s Weapons and Triumphant Hero’s Armor.

Good feedback guys
I hadn’t seen the dev comment about them looking into it already, so thanks for that!
Glad to see they at least have it on the table.
I really liked the armor too!

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

I don’t see an easy or obvious solution to this. The devs acknowledge that we aren’t likely to have WvW tournaments any time soon (for a variety of reasons; short version: it burned people out). In effect, as things stand, no one can get any more.

However, these skins were designed as exclusive tournament rewards (with winners having access to them more easily than losers). That leaves ANet with limited choices:

• Give up on the idea that these are special rewards and just make them available through a generic method: badges of honor, reward tracks, proofs of heroics, etc.
• Invent a new ‘mode’ in which they can be obtained.
• Do nothing, their current choice.

here’s an idea
A collection: (per weapon)
Buy a " Memory of the ‘Weapon’ " for an X amount of badges of honor.
Then you need to get a variety of things for each weapon.

Specific:
#Kill 50 players with the same weapon type (or more, whatever’s fair)
#Win a round on each of the three borderlands, and the main battleground (just like Dragon’s Stand you get one randomly depending on unlocked collections)

Aspecific:
Earn Hold tokens everytime you take a keep (2 for a castle)
Earn Supply tokens everyime you kill a dolyak or (2) for an escort
some more specific tokens
>> buy collection specific memories using the tokens

Final reward > a pale weapon > pale weapon earns points everytime you’re wielding it when you kill players, kill lords, take castles, etc etc, after 500 points or so it becomes a mistforged weapon.

A collection like this would require a player to actively contibute in wvw, and actually win a bit, too. plus the shear amount of tokens would convert the value to time

(that, and we can give them a different color so you can when a mistforged weapon is collection or competitively earned)