Guild Wars 2

can’t we just put a blade into her body and end this story?

go to the living story section, you could easily organise a 50man assassination squad with the amount of hate she’s getting.

i would be totally in to that!!!!

Every time I meet her lately, she seems to be a friend, as I cannot attack her.

So she must be a good character. I will try to put her on my friendlist.

Where are they getting the feedback that anyone likes this weak character? She’s being put into everything like she’s popular and people want her everywhere. I don’t even follow the so-called Living Story because of how weak the characters and story are, now she’s in Fractals and involved in the Reactor? I haven’t even played through the story-mode of the reactor and now I doubt I ever will. In this case I am glad for spoilers, because I am glad I didn’t waste my time seeing cabbagehead put into the history of a major event where she didn’t need to be.
At this point I don’t even want to see her die or even finish her story, Scarlets not worth even that. I just want her dropped and forgotten. Now.
Of all the lore this game has in backstory, why they are focusing on a disgruntled tree that noone seems to like is well beyond me.

Apparently the writers at Anet loves her. In the CDI forums Bobby kept saying there’s a lot more about her to find out which will tie up everything and make her character make a lot more sense.

They better hurry up on that because a book with 49 chapters of slog and 1 amazing chapter is still a badly written book, which is what the LS is at the moment.

People need to keep in mind that this story was most likely already written MONTHS ago.
Are you suggesting they just throw it all in the garbage because a couple of people using the forums seems to dislike her?
It would be even worse to simply end it for the sake of ending it instead of following the plan they have laid out.

Pariah.8506:

Xae Isareth.1364:

Apparently the writers at Anet loves her. In the CDI forums Bobby kept saying there’s a lot more about her to find out which will tie up everything and make her character make a lot more sense.

Haha, oh wow.
It’s like some guy defending a fanfic eff eff ess

To be honest, was actually very interested in her character back in Queen’s Pavilion opening ceremony. She seemed genuinely threatening and had plans which would shake existence as we know it, but it just went downhill afterwards.

However wrote the plot for The Secret World should be the Jeremy Soule of MMO plots. My mind was blown multiple times in that game.

lordkrall.7241:

People need to keep in mind that this story was most likely already written MONTHS ago.
Are you suggesting they just throw it all in the garbage because a couple of people using the forums seems to dislike her?
It would be even worse to simply end it for the sake of ending it instead of following the plan they have laid out.

I think in this case the estimate of a ‘couple people’ not liking her is greatly understating it. While in some instances, the decisions and updates they’ve made have had mixed responses with people on either side of the fence, this one seems far more in the majority in getting rid of this character and this story.
I, for one, would rather see her just dropped, yes. Scarlet and the whole story of these Skeletor, Shredder, GI Joe bad guy alliances is so bad I don’t even care how it supposed to end. Dragons aside as the Vayne has pointed out in another topic is/has been done in other games, books, movies and some people are tired of that. Even without the Dragons, there’s a lot of other lore in the Guild Wars history that could have been expanded and brought to life through Living World. Why invent a rehash of 80’s cartoon bad guy alliances led by a weak character rather than explore the lore and history thats already established and also looks much more interesting?
I realize it was probably written months ago, however the Reactor thing could not have been that old. That hinged on our votes. Did they also write her into the Abaddon story just in case we voted for that? I highly doubt it. I also highly doubt she was part of the backstory of the reactor up until the possibility of the fractal.

No, it is just a couple of people. The majority doesn’t use the forums, and the majority on the people on the forum doesn’t really seem to be on an anti-Scarlet crusade either.

They had the story ideas written before the voting was done, they even confirmed that.

What makes you think she would have been in the Abaddon Fractal if that one have won?
Maybe it just worked in their favor that they had the chance to use the Reactor Fractal in order to explain more of Scarlets backstory?

I find her boring and in the way, not in the way as a threat but more as in the way like a crying kid at a movie or a barking dog when you’re trying to sleep. I don’t know anyone that likes her or where GW fans have gathered saying they like her. Log into a game and ask map chat how they feel and most will say they don’t like Scarlet or the living story is garbage and they want an expansion.

There is your majority. I don’t really care for Scarlet or hate her, I’m indifferent because she really doesn’t matter. I don’t know if she deserves all the hate but the fanbois make me laugh with their estimates of how many like her etc.

What story?

Scarlet is the anti-story. It destroys stories… the molten alliance had potential.. until some lazy writer put scarlet on it too.

lordkrall.7241:

No, it is just a couple of people. The majority doesn’t use the forums, and the majority on the people on the forum doesn’t really seem to be on an anti-Scarlet crusade either.

They had the story ideas written before the voting was done, they even confirmed that.

What makes you think she would have been in the Abaddon Fractal if that one have won?
Maybe it just worked in their favor that they had the chance to use the Reactor Fractal in order to explain more of Scarlets backstory?

Do you have turned off your ingame chat? People hate Scarlet, but not in the way they hate an evil villain, more like some rotten shrimp in their kittentail.

Every single update, the chat is full with people complaining about the laughable villain that Scarlet is.

Oh look it is the hyperactive salad again.

Most people who actually care about the LS do not like her.

lordkrall.7241:

No, it is just a couple of people. The majority doesn’t use the forums, and the majority on the people on the forum doesn’t really seem to be on an anti-Scarlet crusade either.

They had the story ideas written before the voting was done, they even confirmed that.

What makes you think she would have been in the Abaddon Fractal if that one have won?
Maybe it just worked in their favor that they had the chance to use the Reactor Fractal in order to explain more of Scarlets backstory?

Who’s talking about the forums? I actually play the game, with chats on.

Welcome to ScaletWars! Where dragons are not the real enemy…

Oh?
Personally I have mainly seen people that like the updates, even with Scarlet in it.

lordkrall.7241:

Oh?
Personally I have mainly seen people that like the updates, even with Scarlet in it.

Really? I’ve seen the opposite. Yay for buffs etc, Oh Scarlet? Kay. Maybe your server is the unofficial Scarlet fan server.

Being indifferent != hating though.
I have seen quite a bit of indifference, but that doesn’t mean those people actually dislike her, they simply accept that she is there.

lordkrall.7241:

Being indifferent != hating though.
I have seen quite a bit of indifference, but that doesn’t mean those people actually dislike her, they simply accept that she is there.

The fact they are indifferent means that Scarlet is less than successful because the story or her do not matter to anyone. I really don’t care either way but Anet advertises her like she’s special when she isn’t. When most people are indifferent to what you put out or dislike it, it says a lot. The problem now is the fact no matter what they do to her, people will not care because she is simply not worth caring about. Honestly I’d just like to see some weapon updates, new armor skins or dungeons. Living story isn’t anything to me than a way to get fast achievement points.

lordkrall.7241:

Being indifferent != hating though.
I have seen quite a bit of indifference, but that doesn’t mean those people actually dislike her, they simply accept that she is there.

Indifference isn’t hating her. Its also not good for whats supposed to be the life-blood of this game if you go by what Anet says. The living story is supposed to be fuelling the game, keeping it fresh. Indifference and not caring about it, like doing it just for the AP’s and not caring about the story itself is still not liking Scarlet and not good for the game.
Indifference is worse than dislike and wanting her removed. She doesn’t even warrant the attention of those people. Is that what the Living World is supposed to be? No, its supposed to be drawing people in and keeping interest and generating interest from new players.
Indifference is hardly a claim that Scarlet is wanted and it should continue. People who are actively against this weak character and people who are indifferent outweigh the ones who might actually like her – which I have yet to see in game when a new Living Story comes with her in it.

Even if Scarlet has the most spectacular dead, many will just click skip video for the sake of not having to watch her ever again.

MrRuin.9740:

lordkrall.7241:

Being indifferent != hating though.
I have seen quite a bit of indifference, but that doesn’t mean those people actually dislike her, they simply accept that she is there.

Indifference isn’t hating her. Its also not good for whats supposed to be the life-blood of this game if you go by what Anet says. The living story is supposed to be fuelling the game, keeping it fresh. Indifference and not caring about it, like doing it just for the AP’s and not caring about the story itself is still not liking Scarlet and not good for the game.
Indifference is worse than dislike and wanting her removed. She doesn’t even warrant the attention of those people. Is that what the Living World is supposed to be? No, its supposed to be drawing people in and keeping interest and generating interest from new players.
Indifference is hardly a claim that Scarlet is wanted and it should continue. People who are actively against this weak character and people who are indifferent outweigh the ones who might actually like her – which I have yet to see in game when a new Living Story comes with her in it.

Exactly, the problem with indifference is that once you’re this way there is no redeeming at all. If you hate something, an action can bring you from hate to liking or loving. With indifference it simply doesn’t matter. As I said in another thread, Scarlet is like the Ex nobody likes or really hates, just want to never seem them ever again because they’re just that big of a let down. With so many people just quickly getting the AP and standing around they start to get more frustrated and angry, demanding an expansion which means they lose players.

It seems to me only those that post here hate scarlet as everyone I talk to in TC likes what Anet is doing, even a few GW 1 vets. I like scarlet over but she does need an end. So you are all in fact the minority in this game, or these threads will have new faces as I’m seeing the same exact people complaining.

Human-centric only lore was GW 1 and kinda boring (and I liked GW 1 lore). But I wanted to know about everyone else way back in GW 1. All the sentient enemies seemed mindless when now we know they are not (charr/hylek/djinn/etc). Also the dragons are even more boring than Scarlet. If I were to act like the negative side of the forums right now, I’d make threads against any more dragons.

People to me that hate scarlet sound like they hate all lore that isn’t about humans or the gods or anything from GW 1 that frankly (besides Cantha) is all about humans. If I want to know more about humans, I can just read a book on world history or look at human anatomy books. If you “the majority” hate the game and Scarlet so much, just leave now! We don’t need your negativity in the game or Lions Arch especially on
Tarnished Coast.

GW 1 lore was great, but its done. Get over it. If you missed the GW 1 lore, play the old game or read wiki for a few hours.

I have other reasons to hate the game and Scarlet is not one of them.

Yumiko Ishida.3769:

It seems to me only those that post here hate scarlet as everyone I talk to in TC likes what Anet is doing, even a few GW 1 vets. I like scarlet over but she does need an end. So you are all in fact the minority in this game, or these threads will have new faces as I’m seeing the same exact people complaining.

Human-centric only lore was GW 1 and kinda boring (and I liked GW 1 lore). But I wanted to know about everyone else way back in GW 1. All the sentient enemies seemed mindless when now we know they are not (charr/hylek/djinn/etc). Also the dragons are even more boring than Scarlet. If I were to act like the negative side of the forums right now, I’d make threads against any more dragons.

People to me that hate scarlet sound like they hate all lore that isn’t about humans or the gods or anything from GW 1 that frankly (besides Cantha) is all about humans. If I want to know more about humans, I can just read a book on world history or look at human anatomy books. If you “the majority” hate the game and Scarlet so much, just leave now! We don’t need your negativity in the game or Lions Arch especially on
Tarnished Coast.

GW 1 lore was great, but its done. Get over it. If you missed the GW 1 lore, play the old game or read wiki for a few hours.

I have other reasons to hate the game and Scarlet is not one of them.

I’m from TC and all I hear about Scarlet is negativity. No matter what zone I’m in DR, LA or anywhere else. I don’t know when you’re on but either you’re seeing different people post or something. Also don’t need negativity? All TC has is negativity and trolling in LA or the popular major cities. Nobody here has said they hate any of the lore but that Scarlet breaks current lore and that the dragons are put on the back burners. Also human lore in game isn’t earth human lore at all, nothing you mentioned has anything to do with the current complaints, sure some people outright hate scarlet but most are just sick of seeing her al the time. Just like you’re sick of human centered themes.

Yumiko Ishida.3769:

It seems to me only those that post here hate scarlet as everyone I talk to in TC likes what Anet is doing, even a few GW 1 vets. I like scarlet over but she does need an end. So you are all in fact the minority in this game, or these threads will have new faces as I’m seeing the same exact people complaining.

Human-centric only lore was GW 1 and kinda boring (and I liked GW 1 lore). But I wanted to know about everyone else way back in GW 1. All the sentient enemies seemed mindless when now we know they are not (charr/hylek/djinn/etc). Also the dragons are even more boring than Scarlet. If I were to act like the negative side of the forums right now, I’d make threads against any more dragons.

People to me that hate scarlet sound like they hate all lore that isn’t about humans or the gods or anything from GW 1 that frankly (besides Cantha) is all about humans. If I want to know more about humans, I can just read a book on world history or look at human anatomy books. If you “the majority” hate the game and Scarlet so much, just leave now! We don’t need your negativity in the game or Lions Arch especially on
Tarnished Coast.

GW 1 lore was great, but its done. Get over it. If you missed the GW 1 lore, play the old game or read wiki for a few hours.

I have other reasons to hate the game and Scarlet is not one of them.

This is about as Anti-productive as you can get. Who said anything about humans? Or GW1? I never played GW1. I’ve already said doesn’t even have to be the dragons. Seems you’re making a blind post without reading anything else.
So a large portion of the population is either actively vocal against Scarlet and this story or indifferent to it…..so you just want everyone to leave who doesn’t like it?
Thats the point of what I have been saying. People who are indifferent and dont care are going to start leaving because Scarlet is bringing nothing to the table except AP points every couple weeks and a new zerg spot.
If Anet is going by the numbers of people who are doing the LS, those numbers dont represent that people actually like it.
Noone said everyone hates it or is indifferent. But all servers I have been on, pug’s ive been in, maps i’ve been on, all carry the general same tiredness of this Scarlet story. I have yet to see anyone overjoyed or even slightly happy when she reappears week after week.
The living story should invoke feelings towards it like wanting to be involved, wanting to see it progress, wondering where its going, sparking discussion about it. Its not doing any of these things right now for a large portion of the playerbase. It is an AP farm. Some people are so indifferent to Scarlet they dont even know whats going on anymore and dont care to find out. Get the AP’s and get out and back to something that carries more meaning or fun.
No, not everyone hates it. Probably not the majority. I admit that. I also know the majority don’t like her either. If this were anywhere near the case, we would see that in discussions and chats. I have yet to. The majority are falling into the ‘tired of it already and I dont care about it’ category. Which is a shame, because the living story could be something good.

The only time I saw the Living Story invoke such a thing was during the election. People really got into that and there was noticeable discussion, debates and involvement from the playerbase. People were talking about it across all maps, some vigorously campaigning for their chosen candidate. While I wasn’t into the election that much myself, this is the kind of thing the Living Story should bring to the game. Scarlet has never done that or had that kind of involvement. As I said, the only people I’ve seen like it are you few on these forums. I have never seen it in game.
I’m not saying we should have elections all the time, but thats just an example of a time when you know people are into it.