Guild Wars 2

Yeah it needs to be cheaper, frankly more then half the time I enter edge of the mists there is no commander and random mob. Why? because nobody can afford it. The times we do have a commander it’s one of the same 6 that do edge all the time.

I play on Tarnished coast, a large server and we have a problem not having commanders most all the time. I can’t imagine what it’s like on smaller servers.

Can we make commander tags cheaper? There is literally 0 reason for it to be so expensive other then preventing half the map from having a tag. For how required they are for wvw and how edge of the mists is supposed to be for leveling and learning and not too organized, there isn’t a single thing in place designed to get the group some organization. No cheap commander tags only usable in edge nothing. Something needs to be changed to the commander tag system. Either make it worth the while to spend 300 kitten gold on it or make it cheaper. This is stupid.

Nobody can afford it?
I don’t think that’s the case. #GoldLeague

Bullkitten,how many people with legendary’s do you see ? Was it cheap to make one ? Hell no.The thing is,commanding isn’t for everyone…Some people buy a tag,command once and think…kitten this,never again.There are loads of people with a tag,most just don’t throw it up,or only throw it up when theyre in LA or farming PVE.

All the commanders are in WvW. In the boarderland maps.

I bought mine when it was 100g just before the price went up. The trade-off for the price increase was it’s now an accountbound feature.

There’s nothing really special about it atm unless you wanna do a Pied Piper impersonation.

Commander tags cost that much because they are now account bound and you have multiple colors to choose from.

And edge of the mists was never supposed for leveling and learning. It was designed for WvW people while waiting in the Q. PvE people screwed the place up. Now everyone thinks what’s happens over there is normal.

I only tag up when asked to do so.

Hoaxintelligence.4628:

And edge of the mists was never supposed for leveling and learning. It was designed for WvW people while waiting in the Q. PvE people screwed the place up. Now everyone thinks what’s happens over there is normal.

But in designing it as basically “the teams are madeup and the points don’t matter”, they set Edge up for failure. The only good that comes from it now (which is still poisonous for the mode in general) is that is allow people on lower population servers (that won’t/can’t tranfer) and outlet for a mode beyond being a walking loot bag.

Firstly the price is actually fine its account bound as apposed to the past where you had to stick with one toon with the tag unlocked or buy another for your other wvw toons. Secondly I am sure there are people who have the tag but dont want to tag up for reasons being they dont know how to command or dont feel like commanding a zerg. Anyways the price at 200 gold is nothing if you really want to command its an investment you can make

I bet there are people with tags hiding in most zergs. Some just don’t enjoy being in between the karmatrain and bagtrain people. A commander is always wrong there half the time.

I have a question, the wiki article is a bit unclear about this. To join a squad do I need the commander compendium? And if yes, why in Tyria’s Gods’ name did they do that?

ProtoGunner.4953:

I have a question, the wiki article is a bit unclear about this. To join a squad do I need the commander compendium? And if yes, why in Tyria’s Gods’ name did they do that?

To join a squad you need nothing except another player with a commder tag up.

ProtoGunner.4953:

I have a question, the wiki article is a bit unclear about this. To join a squad do I need the commander compendium? And if yes, why in Tyria’s Gods’ name did they do that?

No, to join a squad you just need to right click the commander’s name on the map. You can also right click the commander’s portrait when targeted or in party and get the same option to “Join Squad.”

Commander’s Compendium only unlocks the ability to create a squad, and all commander functionality is based around hitting that button.

The reason people aren’t tagged up isn’t because they don’t have tags. It’s because they don’t want to command. It’s a lot of effort and time commitment, not to mention the pressure of being very visibly accountable, and having a zerg following you and criticising you for everything that goes slightly wrong, or for every decision you make which they might have made differently.

And that’s if your a competent and experienced commander. It’s a lot worse if you’re new to it, or are nervous about it.

Seriously. In your average zerg, something like half the accounts will own a commander tag. They just don’t want to use it, nor should they feel any obligation to.

i think it’s too cheap..i mean i’ve met some commanders that i asume were 9 or 10 in real life, as musch as a suggestion made him swear and threathen he will leave. And it all was just feedback from expirienced players, but no he went bananas, cursed a little and left.

I’m thinking That the Tag should require more than just gold, maybe certain achievements, levels in PvP,WvW, a certain number of skill points….idk…Too many times i’ve met commanders that had no idea what they were doing.

I just want to be able to follow a commander without me and everyone else in the zerg to actually teach him how to do his job. That’s why he is a commander, to lead.

And for all you trolls out there, no i won’t buy one myself, i don’t know the game that well and i’m wayyyyy to lazzy for that kitten.

TaCktiX.6729:

ProtoGunner.4953:

I have a question, the wiki article is a bit unclear about this. To join a squad do I need the commander compendium? And if yes, why in Tyria’s Gods’ name did they do that?

No, to join a squad you just need to right click the commander’s name on the map. You can also right click the commander’s portrait when targeted or in party and get the same option to “Join Squad.”

Commander’s Compendium only unlocks the ability to create a squad, and all commander functionality is based around hitting that button.

Oh, that’s good news, thank you for clarification. I just asked, I tried in game to join squads and somehow it never happened something. Is that be cause the commander didn’t do anything and hasn’t talked through the /squad chat? I’ll try that next time. Don’t usually commanders make use of that?

I agree 300G is way too much. This should not be gold-gated like this.

i bet every eotm zerg has 10 tags turned off

why would anyone wanna get nasty whispers for trying to help out? kittening uplevel kittenbags are kittening toxic as kitten

ProtoGunner.4953:

TaCktiX.6729:

ProtoGunner.4953:

I have a question, the wiki article is a bit unclear about this. To join a squad do I need the commander compendium? And if yes, why in Tyria’s Gods’ name did they do that?

No, to join a squad you just need to right click the commander’s name on the map. You can also right click the commander’s portrait when targeted or in party and get the same option to “Join Squad.”

Commander’s Compendium only unlocks the ability to create a squad, and all commander functionality is based around hitting that button.

Oh, that’s good news, thank you for clarification. I just asked, I tried in game to join squads and somehow it never happened something. Is that be cause the commander didn’t do anything and hasn’t talked through the /squad chat? I’ll try that next time. Don’t usually commanders make use of that?

Squad gives you access to /squad chat, which is yellow, and it will disable other commander pins. You will only see 1 pin when you are in a squad. So remember to leave squad if you suddenly cant see other pins.

And the thing with squad chat is that nobody uses it. It’s better to use /map or /team. You can try talking in /squad next time you are in one. But not many people join squad.
For serious commanders in real wvw maps, they will use Teamspeak.

heartless.6803:

Yeah it needs to be cheaper, frankly more then half the time I enter edge of the mists there is no commander and random mob. Why? because nobody can afford it. The times we do have a commander it’s one of the same 6 that do edge all the time.

I play on Tarnished coast, a large server and we have a problem not having commanders most all the time. I can’t imagine what it’s like on smaller servers.

Can we make commander tags cheaper? There is literally 0 reason for it to be so expensive other then preventing half the map from having a tag. For how required they are for wvw and how edge of the mists is supposed to be for leveling and learning and not too organized, there isn’t a single thing in place designed to get the group some organization. No cheap commander tags only usable in edge nothing. Something needs to be changed to the commander tag system. Either make it worth the while to spend 300 kitten gold on it or make it cheaper. This is stupid.

don’t make me laugh. a T1 server without commanders? what are you smoking?

As downside, have you ever considered what it would be like if commander tags were cheaper? yeah, you’d have a lot of mediocre commanders running around

Tags should be tie in with AP accumulation and not just buying it with golds.

Axxo.7430:

Tags should be tie in with AP accumulation and not just buying it with golds.

The best commanders I know play nearly nothing else than WvsWvsW …. where you
don´t get that much AP …

Tyger.1637:

I bought mine when it was 100g just before the price went up. The trade-off for the price increase was it’s now an accountbound feature.

There’s nothing really special about it atm unless you wanna do a Pied Piper impersonation.

eotm first week.. mass base jumping was the best

Commander tags shouldn´t have been available for gold to begin with, instead they should have been earned by rank or some form of achievement level. The game is SWAMPED with commanders at times, to the point of competing commanders in EotM – so apparently the price is low enough. I´d say your observation is a fluke.

I like the high cost. It means that only people who actually want to command get the tag, and we don’t have commander tags absolutely all over the place for no reason. I very, very rarely find an eotm instance with no commander unless I’m on at really early hours for america on a weekday, but even then there’s still usually a commander

Commander tag is a sacrifice on the commander alone. And it takes a great deal of tactical know-how, confidence, tough skin, and patience, to be a decent commander, in both WvW and PvE. It shouldn’t be easy to get.

For now, if you have the want, dedication, commitment, and know-how to get 300 gold for a tag, then I it’s justified to make it that expensive. It’d be better if there was another method, but I can’t think of one.

…And any arguments for ‘more command tags to enable EOTM karma train’ is an awful reason. EOTM is a blight of existence in WvW. It’s not even WvW anymore, it’s just PvE champ farm with the possibility of collecting lootbag by sitting behind an AC. I hope that place gets obliterated and patched out, or at least the rewards heavily nerfed. Karma trained ruined everything about it.

EOTM is a cold, cruel place where big brother OG bashes & stomps on the other 2 colors quite a lot of the time. When this is happening it is only normal for either or both of the lower servers to more than likely have a commander for a while but eventually leave due to excessive stomping/bag farming from OG/bag hunting server. Thus may be why you are seeing ‘no commander tag’ in EOTM for your server because anyone who steps up will probably experience being wrecked by the enemy zerg and when that happens your own team quite often blames ‘the commander’ for what happened.

I’ve been around long enough to know before the change to commander tag prices they were tagged up for a reason whether it be PVE events or WvW scenarios.. after the accouncement to the upcoming increase in commander tag prices I can honestly tell you during that time I witnessed PVE maps absolutely flooded with commander tags for the ‘lols’, especially at World Boss Events and even as far as 7-12 tags in WvW purely for the sake of ‘may as well buy it now while it’s cheap’.

During this period the amount of tags was such an eye-sore; still to this day people ignorantly tag up for various inconvenient reasons when there is clearly already a leading tag driving a zerg (EOTM).

We do not need more of these ignorant people and I am in no way stating you would be one but if the tag price dropped back to 100g, and given the circumstances on how quick/easy gold is to make/BUY.. AKA BUY GEMS TO CONVERT TO GOLD, we would have even more nonsense happening in PVE/WvW/EOTM with plenty of useless, confusing tags running about treating it like a vanity item.

As stated by other(s) in this thread a commander tag should not be something easy to get. It is already easy enough simply by converting gems to gold or out-right buying gems and vice versa.

Lately during this year I’ve noticed the tags seem to have died down a bit but I still witness people/groups tagging up because they can. Because they rushed to buy the mere 100g tag before the price increase took place.

The commander tag needs to be “easy” to get because its used for a lot of different things.

If it would require some sort of pvp achievement the pve commanders would get screwed. Commander Tags are not a pvp only feature.

The price is kinda high, but then again if you really want one you should be able to farm it in a reasonable amount of time.

Hoaxintelligence.4628:

All the commanders are in WvW. In the boarderland maps.

I thought all the commanders were in the Silverwastes, not doing any actual commanding. Things you’ll never hear from a commander at a fort:
- “Use the arrowcarts”
- “Use the oilpot”
- “Don’t fight them away from the gate, let them come under the oilpot”
- “Two people go escort the supply bull here”
- “I bought this tag for 100g before the price went up, but I didn’t cut it as a commander, so Silverwastes is where I come not to get found out”

There are enough so-called ‘commanders’ already. Easier to get? No thank you. If anything, it should harder with a specific criteria that proves you know what you’re doing.

Paying X-amount of gold makes it accessible to everyone and their momma.

And it shows on the battlefield.

meh it’s just 300g guys, most of the wvw’ers don’t give a kitten about visual looks so the only thing you have to spend it on is: food and optional siege. Most of the times food is being dropped down by the commander and since you’re not tagged up yourself you don’t necesseraly need to buy sieges all the time. Holding your money can create lets say 15g a day, so that makes 20 days for a commander tag. Tbh i would rather not have 3 weeks in wvw commanders tagging up :p
last but not least, the real cost of being a commie lies @ the siege you need to buy. omega’s superiors, guild cata’s etc. if not 100% supported by your server by a serverbank this is far more then the 300g for the tag. i’m pretty sure i could’ve already bought 2 legendaries if i just didn’t touch those golems xd

oh and saying that no1 has a commander tag is just BS, i’ve seen up to 50% of a complete zerg tagged on my server as a trol, but still we’ve often got tagup problems because ppl simply don’t want to command.

I dont think there are not enough commanders. I always have a hard time to find an eotm map without commander so I can command myself.

Actually it’d be cool if there was a Commander Mastery. The purpose of the high cost seemed to be to lock it off to only the more hardcore or connected, but actual gameplay mastery seems like it might be a better indicator of a good player.

Is 300g really that hard to come by now? I was under the impression gold is easy to gain, hell I hardly gold farm these days and I accumulate it very easily. I just spend 300 of it buying ascended mats for revenant when it comes out.

Honestly ac 1-3 is probably the easiest 5 gold one can get in 30 minutes assuming you have a somewhat decent group.

CptTrips.6512:

Axxo.7430:

Tags should be tie in with AP accumulation and not just buying it with golds.

The best commanders I know play nearly nothing else than WvsWvsW …. where you
don´t get that much AP …

Okay, I was actually referring to pve tags

heartless.6803:

Yeah it needs to be cheaper, frankly more then half the time I enter edge of the mists there is no commander and random mob. Why? because nobody can afford it. The times we do have a commander it’s one of the same 6 that do edge all the time.

I play on Tarnished coast, a large server and we have a problem not having commanders most all the time. I can’t imagine what it’s like on smaller servers.

Can we make commander tags cheaper? There is literally 0 reason for it to be so expensive other then preventing half the map from having a tag. For how required they are for wvw and how edge of the mists is supposed to be for leveling and learning and not too organized, there isn’t a single thing in place designed to get the group some organization. No cheap commander tags only usable in edge nothing. Something needs to be changed to the commander tag system. Either make it worth the while to spend 300 kitten gold on it or make it cheaper. This is stupid.

Heartless – I think there are more people with Commander tags then you might think. When they changed the tag to allow different colours, everybody and their sister had tags on. It looked like someone spilled a bag of skittles on my screen.

As for “There is literally 0 reason for it to be so expensive other than<sic> preventing half the map from having a tag”. I think that IS the Prime reason for them being so expensive. For example, I do PvE most of the time, in the PvE world with a very few select exceptions, there is almost NO reason to have a Commander tag turned on. Still you see them inappropriately used all the time. I think the high price keeps the Tag griefer population down.

Now as for WvW, yes tags are absolutely important and again if a person is going to be a commander and a good one then they should work towards saving the cash to get one. Hopefully this yields a higher percentage of GOOD Commanders.

Now all of that said… Yes I own a Commander’s Compendium. It is sitting in my bank unopened for the last 6 months because I have had no reason to Tag-up in PvE yet. There is a very good chance that it may never be opened unless they change the PvE game style drastically OR make Commander Tag option to be viewable ONLY for your represented guild if you so desire. Then, I may just blow the dust off the Commander Tome and Guild Tag-up.

So tl;dr: IMO I think the Commander Tag should be expensive.

i bought the tag when it was 100g.
haven’t used it a single time.

;)

Gaab.4257:

I agree 300G is way too much. This should not be gold-gated like this.

As someone who sees way too much “Taste the Rainbow” going on during World Boss Grand Tours, I don’t think it costs as much as it should.

Also I recall people saying 100G was too much before the change.

Caedmon.6798:

Some people buy a tag,command once and think…kitten this,never again.There are loads of people with a tag,most just don’t throw it up,or only throw it up when theyre in LA or farming PVE.

This, i saw enough commanders flamed to hell and back for smallest mistake or what some random people thought was mistake to never want to pop my tag up outside guild events. I often end up on maps in need of commander, am often tempted to pop my tag but then i remember what kind of comunity i’m playing wih and i just move on.

1. The price is fine.

2. There are PLENTY of people out there with commander tags (tons of people went out and got one right before the price increase). Most people with said tags only tag up for boss trains or guild missions.

3. The reason no one ever wants to tag up in EOTM is because everyone who was too scared to tag up will give the poor player who DID tag up all sorts of crap. If they only stick to karma/event farming, there will be the players whining at them for avoiding the other zergs. If they actually engage in combat with zergs, the other players will complain about how they’re missing out on karma.

I was chest farming in Silverwastes once and over half of the folks in the large zerg had their commander tag up.

No…commander tags need some in-game restrictions and possibly some sort of test / ranking for available colors to use…..Price is the least of their problems (tho the price IS part of the problem since any player with some gold can obtain one).

Bought it when it was 100g, have it for all my alts, barely use it

lol I did the same thing. Bought it when it was cheap just in case I ever wanted to use it.

More commanders in EB would be nice, though. A lot of times, there’s no one, but maybe that’s not a lack of tags, just lack of interest in leading.

God, too many commander tags roaming around the map.
Make it 1000g please.

PS: believe it or not, so many people have that tag, but they’re just too lazy to tag up.
True experience here <-

Alot of people have tags they dont use in eotm. The reason there are no tags is because nobody wants to tag up and lead. Especially if you are not green that week. It just isnt worth going to eotm if you are not green.

Why do you need to be green for EotM?

The price is fine where its at. Its one of the very few things that ArenaNet has adjusted for inflation.

Also know that MANY players around you own a tag but don’t always throw it up (thankfully).

Why does it need to be cheaper? so you can also leave one on and wander around aimlessly screaming “look at me look at me”? Lots of peoples have tags in EotM. It’s just that none of them want to look like a fool for making a mistake or hear people crying about them in map chat for not doing something they wanted.