Guild Wars 2

So I just played some SPvP (but the same might apply to WvW) and there were a couple of minion masters on the other team with names that mimiced the name if minions.

Creative playing because it made them much harder to target. A fast look might show someone with a minion name, and you might think it’s a minion and tab past them. There were far too many minions on the screen (and other summons like rock dogs) to click on the target.

It seems to me that there are a limited number of minion names and this gives players who have them an unfair advantage in SPvP, which is supposed to be a level playing field.

I mean these guys were good, anyway, and I wouldn’t have likely been able to 1v1 either of them, but it begs the question…

should a person who allowed to take the name of a minion?

I don’t have an answer, but I’m curious as to other opinions on the topic.

Unless they were minimum size asura hiding inside their minions this isn’t a problem.

Brutal Arts.6307:

Unless they were minimum size asura hiding inside their minions this isn’t a problem.

Are you suggesting it gives them no advantage at all?

No more than all the mesmers named Illusionary Duellist/Berzerker etc. Unless it’s going to stop me from clicking on them, ie a tiny asura hiding inside the model of a much larger minion, I wouldn’t say it gives them any advantage.

The illusion names do not give me much problems.

The huge problem is somewhere else.

I played against 3 Mesmers with the same name. There are 9 pets and 3 mesmers hiding around with the same armor.

Even if it were prudent to do something like restrict access to names because of similarity to minions, where do you draw the line? How similar is too similar?

My mesmer’s name is Nothingmancer. Should that be banned because it’s evocative of necro’s more so than mesmers?

Also, tip for you, OP. In PvP, actual players have their class icon next to the portrait.

What blows me away are the players who name their characters like llIIIlllIll and run multiple mesmer players just to disorient people. Like, are you that bad that you need such a petty advantage? lol

It hasn’t ever been an issue for me. I don’t think it’s a big enough deal to worry about.

Hah! I’ve seen people do that in ground PVP over in STO. Didn’t bother me there, probably wouldn’t bother me here – if I played spvp.

Klawlyt.6507:

Even if it were prudent to do something like restrict access to names because of similarity to minions, where do you draw the line? How similar is too similar?

My mesmer’s name is Nothingmancer. Should that be banned because it’s evocative of necro’s more so than mesmers?

Also, tip for you, OP. In PvP, actual players have their class icon next to the portrait.

I’ll have to look more closely when tabbing through targets..but it was a zoo. I have not seen so many minions and summons together before at one time in this game.

Do the other players not have a class symbol next to their name in sPvP?

IndigoSundown.5419:

Do the other players not have a class symbol next to their name in sPvP?

No idea. I’ve run into MMs before in SPvP but it was always relatively easy to target them. Even if I couldn’t click, I could tab through them. I would just tab through the minions till I got to the guy.

But because I’ve never had problems, it never occured to me someone would be named after a minion, it wasn’t until after that match that I realized it (when he was on my team in the next match lol).

Yeah, players have the class icon next to their faces, minions, pets, rock dogs, etc. do not. When things get real hectic and my mouse hand is busy maneuvering (I unbound my rotation keys) and I need to sort out the minion master from the minions, I generally tab till I see a skull.

It doesn’t give them an unfair advantage in terms of actual game-play. There is not hack, not exploit, that gives the some means of upping the average players.

It means they are smart and they have used their intelligence in a way that’s confused you, in real life, and that intelligence shouldn’t be considered an exploit since its not manipulating or altering the game in some way that’s giving an unfair advantage.

Stone.6751:

It doesn’t give them an unfair advantage in terms of actual game-play. There is not hack, not exploit, that gives the some means of upping the average players.

It means they are smart and they have used their intelligence in a way that’s confused you, in real life, and that intelligence shouldn’t be considered an exploit since its not manipulating or altering the game in some way that’s giving an unfair advantage.

No it doesn’t mean that they are smart it means that they are de­s­pe­rat.

Stone.6751:

It doesn’t give them an unfair advantage in terms of actual game-play. There is not hack, not exploit, that gives the some means of upping the average players.

It means they are smart and they have used their intelligence in a way that’s confused you, in real life, and that intelligence shouldn’t be considered an exploit since its not manipulating or altering the game in some way that’s giving an unfair advantage.

It’s an unfair advantage in that only a limited number of minion names are actually available, which only a very limited number of people can get. It’s not like they have a build someone esle can figure out. Once all the minion names are gone, they have those names and no one else can.

Obviously the solution is to visually distinguish all nameplates and tags from minions, at least in SPvP.

The naming thing does give them an advantage, as does playing a small character such as a Asura. It does swing some matches in there favour as well…

Mesmers annoy me so much, targeting the real Mesmer is a nightmare but any class with loads of minions/pets can be a problem in sPvP.

One way around it however is using weapons that attack more than 1 target and weapons that have AoE, then you can kill them all at the same time…

Target locking can help as well…

Meglobob.8620:

The naming thing does give them an advantage, as does playing a small character such as a Asura. It does swing some matches in there favour as well…

Mesmers annoy me so much, targeting the real Mesmer is a nightmare but any class with loads of minions/pets can be a problem in sPvP.

One way around it however is using weapons that attack more than 1 target and weapons that have AoE, then you can kill them all at the same time…

Target locking can help as well…

The difference is anyone can roll and Asura to PvP, but the only people who can use minion names have them already.

Still, I’ve learned a bit from this thread and next time I go into PvP I’ll see if I can distinguish these guys by the icon by their name.