Guild Wars 2

Ok I saw a few weeks ago that it’s possible to use “Superior Sigil of Air” + “Major Sigil of Air” together, because they don’t share a cooldown and have both 5 sec cd.
I went with my thief to Orr and tested it on a “Risen Noble”.
I just autohitted with 80% critchance and both sigil proced a lighning strike, which both showed in combat log with ca 1200 dmg each +/- a few digits.
I dont know if that was with full power stacks + food but later more.

Today i had a strange feeling, so i went back to orr and hit a “Risen Noble” and i saw a lightning strike for 850 dmg. I thought maybe thats because no stacks of power but i am sure i didn’t have any in the past test.
So with above 3k power the lightning strike hit for 1085 and thats a lot less than 1200.

I am sure my lightning strike hitted for 1200 dmg.
In PvP lightning strike just hits for 700-800 dmg and befor patch i think it was 1000.
The same thing belongs to “Superior Sigil of Fire”, the dmg is weaker.

So something happened to the sigils and i found nothing in the patchnotes.
Do you recognized the same?

they may have shaved it. I think Lighitng was 1.1, and fire was 0.8, but I can’t remember if that includes weapon strength or not, or if it has an internal WS value. Level scaling could be a factor too.

ferocity?
/15 charr must be sacrificed to the plant god

i have the same eq, same food buffs or power stacks. last week to todays week and there is just this patch.

I am 110% sure about that all.

then we have a possible stealth nerf on our hands?

air 1.1 and fire 0.85 says wiki
but that are the old numbers
It must be a stealth nerf

Can someone confirm this info? If they really ninja nerfed sigil of air this is an awesome change.

Can confirm. Tested it with my Mesmer with 2700 power, fire sigil doing 500-600 dmg and lightning doing 800 dmg. Thats half of what thry should be doing. My friends have the same issue, so it could very well be that the sigils got nerfed.

either new coeff or nolonger effected by +% damage mods

If you think there’s been a change, honestly I’d recommend posting in the dungeon forums to find out if it’s true. While this topic isn’t dungeon specific, the people who frequent that forum both understand the math behind the sigils and keep a well documented track of how they work. They would be the best people to let you know if there has been a change.

Tested the sigil of fire against an icebrood hunter in Frostgorge with my warrior wielding berserker ascended greatsword with 3933 power: flame blast hit for 993.

The only Question is

is it an ninja nerf or just another bug?

If it’s a bug – great.
If it’s a silent nerf – This is exactly why my faith in Anet is pretty much gone at this point – not because of the nerf itself but because they didn’t announce it and expected we’re “silly” enough to ever notice.

Harper.4173:

If it’s a bug – great.
If it’s a silent nerf – This is exactly why my faith in Anet is pretty much gone at this point – not because of the nerf itself but because they didn’t announce it and expected we’re “silly” enough to ever notice.

Excactly This!

An statement from one official on this topic would be great…..

You know, why put up patch notes? I mean, they are lying in patch notes anyway.

serenke.4806:

You know, why put up patch notes? I mean, they are lying in patch notes anyway.

They’re lying?

butch.8136:

serenke.4806:

You know, why put up patch notes? I mean, they are lying in patch notes anyway.

They’re lying?

Yes, it has happened repeatedly.

serenke.4806:

butch.8136:

serenke.4806:

You know, why put up patch notes? I mean, they are lying in patch notes anyway.

They’re lying?

Yes, it has happened repeatedly.

My question implied a call for an example…

butch.8136:

serenke.4806:

butch.8136:

serenke.4806:

You know, why put up patch notes? I mean, they are lying in patch notes anyway.

They’re lying?

Yes, it has happened repeatedly.

My question implied a call for an example…

Taken from the July 29, 2014 patch notes:
BLACK LION TRADING COMPANY GEM STORE
New Items and Promotions
The new Home Portal Stone is now available in the Services category for 900 gems. Players can instantly travel to their home city instance and return to their original location on demand.
Mini Scruffy is now available in the Toys category of the Gem Store for 500 gems.
The Permanent Hair Stylist Contract is now a very rare drop from Black Lion Chests for a limited time.
The new Endless Monkey King Tonic is now a very rare drop from Black Lion Chests.

Taken from the October 29, 2014 patch notes:
Bug Fixes
Player animation for the Frost Wasp Logging Tool and Tireless Logging Minion was fixed so that players are not locked in place for a few seconds after the third hit.
Clarification: An error in previous release notes regarding the Permanent Hair Stylist Contract has been amended. The Permanent Hair Stylist Contract continues to be a very rare drop from the Black Lion Chest.

serenke.4806:

butch.8136:

serenke.4806:

butch.8136:

serenke.4806:

You know, why put up patch notes? I mean, they are lying in patch notes anyway.

They’re lying?

Yes, it has happened repeatedly.

My question implied a call for an example…

Taken from the July 29, 2014 patch notes:
BLACK LION TRADING COMPANY GEM STORE
New Items and Promotions
The new Home Portal Stone is now available in the Services category for 900 gems. Players can instantly travel to their home city instance and return to their original location on demand.
Mini Scruffy is now available in the Toys category of the Gem Store for 500 gems.
The Permanent Hair Stylist Contract is now a very rare drop from Black Lion Chests for a limited time.
The new Endless Monkey King Tonic is now a very rare drop from Black Lion Chests.

Taken from the October 29, 2014 patch notes:
Bug Fixes
Player animation for the Frost Wasp Logging Tool and Tireless Logging Minion was fixed so that players are not locked in place for a few seconds after the third hit.
Clarification: An error in previous release notes regarding the Permanent Hair Stylist Contract has been amended. The Permanent Hair Stylist Contract continues to be a very rare drop from the Black Lion Chest.

Are you actually alleging that correction of a previous error constitutes lying? Or are you purporting that committing the error by default makes it a lie?

Someone please restore my faith in humanity and tell me this is a troll post.

Dolphin.2574:

serenke.4806:

butch.8136:

serenke.4806:

butch.8136:

serenke.4806:

You know, why put up patch notes? I mean, they are lying in patch notes anyway.

They’re lying?

Yes, it has happened repeatedly.

My question implied a call for an example…

Taken from the July 29, 2014 patch notes:
BLACK LION TRADING COMPANY GEM STORE
New Items and Promotions
The new Home Portal Stone is now available in the Services category for 900 gems. Players can instantly travel to their home city instance and return to their original location on demand.
Mini Scruffy is now available in the Toys category of the Gem Store for 500 gems.
The Permanent Hair Stylist Contract is now a very rare drop from Black Lion Chests for a limited time.
The new Endless Monkey King Tonic is now a very rare drop from Black Lion Chests.

Taken from the October 29, 2014 patch notes:
Bug Fixes
Player animation for the Frost Wasp Logging Tool and Tireless Logging Minion was fixed so that players are not locked in place for a few seconds after the third hit.
Clarification: An error in previous release notes regarding the Permanent Hair Stylist Contract has been amended. The Permanent Hair Stylist Contract continues to be a very rare drop from the Black Lion Chest.

Are you actually alleging that correction of a previous error constitutes lying? Or are you purporting that committing the error by default makes it a lie?

Someone please restore my faith in humanity and tell me this is a troll post.

Just someone struggling to put his money where his mouth is.

Stick around, the forums are full of that.

Did they fix the ICD of the superior one in the process? I think I’m still using a tier2 one

serenke.4806:

butch.8136:

serenke.4806:

butch.8136:

serenke.4806:

You know, why put up patch notes? I mean, they are lying in patch notes anyway.

They’re lying?

Yes, it has happened repeatedly.

My question implied a call for an example…

Taken from the July 29, 2014 patch notes:
BLACK LION TRADING COMPANY GEM STORE
New Items and Promotions
The new Home Portal Stone is now available in the Services category for 900 gems. Players can instantly travel to their home city instance and return to their original location on demand.
Mini Scruffy is now available in the Toys category of the Gem Store for 500 gems.
The Permanent Hair Stylist Contract is now a very rare drop from Black Lion Chests for a limited time.
The new Endless Monkey King Tonic is now a very rare drop from Black Lion Chests.

Taken from the October 29, 2014 patch notes:
Bug Fixes
Player animation for the Frost Wasp Logging Tool and Tireless Logging Minion was fixed so that players are not locked in place for a few seconds after the third hit.
Clarification: An error in previous release notes regarding the Permanent Hair Stylist Contract has been amended. The Permanent Hair Stylist Contract continues to be a very rare drop from the Black Lion Chest.

A mistake doesn’t mean a lie.

If for example you were asked about your activities last Thursday, and you stated that you had drove down to the Texaco gas station and put in $30 worth of gas into your car. But it turned out that you had gone to the Exxon instead, and actually put $28 dollars worth of gas into your car. Are you a liar? Or did you mistake the gas station, and the amount of gas?