Its decent, but not incredibly good in my opinion.
The only reason why it looks good is of the price.
If some enemy is giving back my own condition I just cleanse it or it just goes away with my 60%condi reduction.
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Its decent, but not incredibly good in my opinion.
The only reason why it looks good is of the price.
If some enemy is giving back my own condition I just cleanse it or it just goes away with my 60%condi reduction.
Some classes can easily apply condi’s but have a harder time at removing them.
They dropped during the second one as well.
I have no reason to assume they won’t drop again.
They only dropped from gifts received in Snowball Mayhem.
No, it dropped from all gifts, not just those acquired in Snowball Mayhem.
No, sorry I know that I’m right, I have played that game 500 times because I wanted a superior sigil of generosity and received 4 major sigils of generosity – only from these gifts, I also got a lot of other gifts from all around tyria. Not so sure about the gift from the music thingy, might be that they were the old ones as well, haven’t played that game that much. They stacked differently as well, if I remember correctly.
They dropped during the second one as well.
I have no reason to assume they won’t drop again.
They only dropped from gifts received in Snowball Mayhem.
No, it dropped from all gifts, not just those acquired in Snowball Mayhem.
No, sorry I know that I’m right, I have played that game 500 times because I wanted a superior sigil of generosity and received 4 major sigils of generosity – only from these gifts, I also got a lot of other gifts from all around tyria. Not so sure about the gift from the music thingy, might be that they were the old ones as well, haven’t played that game that much. They stacked differently as well, if I remember correctly.
Or your luck was just such that it only showed up the gifts you got from the game.
Did you get 500 gifts from not Snowball Mayhem?
How many were not from Snowball Mayhem if not 500?
I can flip a coin 100 times and have it land on heads all 100 times. Is that easy to do? No way. But still possible.
You could have easily received 50 gifts outside of Snowball Mayhem and not gotten the sigil from them even if they are supposed to. Because each time you open a gift, it doesn’t look to see what your last open of a gift was. Each RNG roll is independent of the other. You could have been rolling such that you only got the sigil from the game even though it was coded to drop in all gifts.
Just go ask the people who do Teq for the Sunless weapon skins. Or Fractals for specific skins or weapon types.
Edit to add:
Based on your numbers, if your drop was at the game’s chance the sigils drop at a 0.8% chance. That’s really really low. You would need 125 drops before you can even claim that the code was wrong. Because that’s how many drops it would take that if the rolls were true to the percentage chance, to be sure you got 1 drop. 125 times .008 is 1.
They dropped during the second one as well.
I have no reason to assume they won’t drop again.
They only dropped from gifts received in Snowball Mayhem.
No, it dropped from all gifts, not just those acquired in Snowball Mayhem.
No, sorry I know that I’m right, I have played that game 500 times because I wanted a superior sigil of generosity and received 4 major sigils of generosity – only from these gifts, I also got a lot of other gifts from all around tyria. Not so sure about the gift from the music thingy, might be that they were the old ones as well, haven’t played that game that much. They stacked differently as well, if I remember correctly.
Or your luck was just such that it only showed up the gifts you got from the game.
Did you get 500 gifts from not Snowball Mayhem?
How many were not from Snowball Mayhem if not 500?
I can flip a coin 100 times and have it land on heads all 100 times. Is that easy to do? No way. But still possible.
You could have easily received 50 gifts outside of Snowball Mayhem and not gotten the recipe from them even if they are supposed to. Because each time you open a gift, it doesn’t look to see what your last open of a gift was. Each RNG roll is independent of the other. You could have been rolling such that you only got the recipe from the game even though it was coded to drop in all gifts.
Just go ask the people who do Teq for the Sunless weapon skins. Or Fractals for specific skins or weapon types.
I didnt get one from 50k giant wintersday gifts. I am pretty sure they didnt drop from those, like the year before.
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They dropped during the second one as well.
I have no reason to assume they won’t drop again.
They only dropped from gifts received in Snowball Mayhem.
No, it dropped from all gifts, not just those acquired in Snowball Mayhem.
No, sorry I know that I’m right, I have played that game 500 times because I wanted a superior sigil of generosity and received 4 major sigils of generosity – only from these gifts, I also got a lot of other gifts from all around tyria. Not so sure about the gift from the music thingy, might be that they were the old ones as well, haven’t played that game that much. They stacked differently as well, if I remember correctly.
Or your luck was just such that it only showed up the gifts you got from the game.
Did you get 500 gifts from not Snowball Mayhem?
How many were not from Snowball Mayhem if not 500?
I can flip a coin 100 times and have it land on heads all 100 times. Is that easy to do? No way. But still possible.
You could have easily received 50 gifts outside of Snowball Mayhem and not gotten the sigil from them even if they are supposed to. Because each time you open a gift, it doesn’t look to see what your last open of a gift was. Each RNG roll is independent of the other. You could have been rolling such that you only got the sigil from the game even though it was coded to drop in all gifts.
Just go ask the people who do Teq for the Sunless weapon skins. Or Fractals for specific skins or weapon types.
Edit to add:
Based on your numbers, if your drop was at the game’s chance the sigils drop at a 0.8% chance. That’s really really low. You would need 125 drops before you can even claim that the code was wrong. Because that’s how many drops it would take that if the rolls were true to the percentage chance, to be sure you got 1 drop. 125 times .008 is 1.
Where’s the problem here? I never said how many gifts I got and one got more than just one gift for one match of Snowball Mayhem, also depending on win or lose. I had a lot of gifts from 500 games of Snowball madness, which also contained glue and stuffing material which weren’t a thing last year anyway. And I got 3 times as many gifts from the rest of Tyria and I’m telling you: I know I’m right – I wouldn’t have played that game that many times otherwise. Although it was fun but not really 500 times.
Edit: But believe what you want. I just hope we get some fresh sigils this year. Although I probably won’t be playing that game that often – last year was kind of enough.
They dropped during the second one as well.
I have no reason to assume they won’t drop again.
They only dropped from gifts received in Snowball Mayhem.
No, it dropped from all gifts, not just those acquired in Snowball Mayhem.
No, sorry I know that I’m right, I have played that game 500 times because I wanted a superior sigil of generosity and received 4 major sigils of generosity – only from these gifts, I also got a lot of other gifts from all around tyria. Not so sure about the gift from the music thingy, might be that they were the old ones as well, haven’t played that game that much. They stacked differently as well, if I remember correctly.
Or your luck was just such that it only showed up the gifts you got from the game.
Did you get 500 gifts from not Snowball Mayhem?
How many were not from Snowball Mayhem if not 500?
I can flip a coin 100 times and have it land on heads all 100 times. Is that easy to do? No way. But still possible.
You could have easily received 50 gifts outside of Snowball Mayhem and not gotten the sigil from them even if they are supposed to. Because each time you open a gift, it doesn’t look to see what your last open of a gift was. Each RNG roll is independent of the other. You could have been rolling such that you only got the sigil from the game even though it was coded to drop in all gifts.
Just go ask the people who do Teq for the Sunless weapon skins. Or Fractals for specific skins or weapon types.
Edit to add:
Based on your numbers, if your drop was at the game’s chance the sigils drop at a 0.8% chance. That’s really really low. You would need 125 drops before you can even claim that the code was wrong. Because that’s how many drops it would take that if the rolls were true to the percentage chance, to be sure you got 1 drop. 125 times .008 is 1.
Where’s the problem here? I never said how many gifts I got and one got more than just one gift for one match of Snowball Mayhem, also depending on win or lose. I had a lot of gifts from 500 games of Snowball madness, which also contained glue and stuffing material which weren’t a thing last year anyway. And I got 3 times as many gifts from the rest of Tyria and I’m telling you: I know I’m right – I wouldn’t have played that game that many times otherwise. Although it was fun but not really 500 times.
Edit: But believe what you want. I just hope we get some fresh sigils this year. Although I probably won’t be playing that game that often – last year was kind of enough.
You can’t say something doesn’t drop from something but not have the proof to back it up.
You say it only dropped in one area but only provided evidence for that one area. Not the other areas where you claim it never dropped.
Things don’t drop out of just one thing in this game. So you can’t use proof that it drops from Item 1 to say that it doesn’t drop in Item 2.
That’s the problem. You haven’t proven to anyone that it didn’t drop in places other than Snowball Mayhem. Just that the drop rate for it was likely abysmal.
You can’t say something doesn’t drop from something but not have the proof to back it up.
You say it only dropped in one area but only provided evidence for that one area. Not the other areas where you claim it never dropped.
Things don’t drop out of just one thing in this game. So you can’t use proof that it drops from Item 1 to say that it doesn’t drop in Item 2.
That’s the problem. You haven’t proven to anyone that it didn’t drop in places other than Snowball Mayhem. Just that the drop rate for it was likely abysmal.
Alright 500 games a about 4-5 or more gifts = ~2000 gifts – got 4 major sigils of generosity of them, got some glue from them, got some stuffing material from them. People in snowball mayhem were linking their superior sigils of generosity they just got.
Got 6000 gifts outside of that game – yes I had them on different stacks – got all backpiece recipes from that, got no sigils, got no stuffing material, got no glue.
Do you have evidence to back up your claim that they dropped from every gift?
You can’t say something doesn’t drop from something but not have the proof to back it up.
You say it only dropped in one area but only provided evidence for that one area. Not the other areas where you claim it never dropped.
Things don’t drop out of just one thing in this game. So you can’t use proof that it drops from Item 1 to say that it doesn’t drop in Item 2.
That’s the problem. You haven’t proven to anyone that it didn’t drop in places other than Snowball Mayhem. Just that the drop rate for it was likely abysmal.
Alright 500 games a about 4-5 or more gifts = ~2000 gifts – got 4 major sigils of generosity of them, got some glue from them, got some stuffing material from them. People in snowball mayhem were linking their superior sigils of generosity they just got.
Got 6000 gifts outside of that game – yes I had them on different stacks – got all backpiece recipes from that, got no sigils, got no stuffing material, got no glue.
Do you have evidence to back up your claim that they dropped from every gift?
Never said you were wrong. Just that you hadn’t proven your case. It just seemed odd that they would put a very very very rare drop with just one type of gift.
Which you now have unless someone can come in and say they got one outside of snowball mayhem or know someone who did. 0 in 6000 is a lot of rolls to not hit the magic one for the sigil.
You can’t say something doesn’t drop from something but not have the proof to back it up.
You say it only dropped in one area but only provided evidence for that one area. Not the other areas where you claim it never dropped.
Things don’t drop out of just one thing in this game. So you can’t use proof that it drops from Item 1 to say that it doesn’t drop in Item 2.
That’s the problem. You haven’t proven to anyone that it didn’t drop in places other than Snowball Mayhem. Just that the drop rate for it was likely abysmal.
Alright 500 games a about 4-5 or more gifts = ~2000 gifts – got 4 major sigils of generosity of them, got some glue from them, got some stuffing material from them. People in snowball mayhem were linking their superior sigils of generosity they just got.
Got 6000 gifts outside of that game – yes I had them on different stacks – got all backpiece recipes from that, got no sigils, got no stuffing material, got no glue.
Do you have evidence to back up your claim that they dropped from every gift?
No backpiece recipes dropped in 2012. As for definite proof that they dropped from gifts everywhere, there isn’t any (just as there isn’t any definite proof that they dropped just from Snowball Mayhem). Regardless, I strongly doubt that Anet made it so that the gift boxes dropping from Snowball Mayhem had a different loot table than every other gift box drop. RNG is RNG.
Here are the drop/rate tables from the wiki, just because I was curious and looked them up. Just for the Giant and Large boxes.
You can’t say something doesn’t drop from something but not have the proof to back it up.
You say it only dropped in one area but only provided evidence for that one area. Not the other areas where you claim it never dropped.
Things don’t drop out of just one thing in this game. So you can’t use proof that it drops from Item 1 to say that it doesn’t drop in Item 2.
That’s the problem. You haven’t proven to anyone that it didn’t drop in places other than Snowball Mayhem. Just that the drop rate for it was likely abysmal.
Alright 500 games a about 4-5 or more gifts = ~2000 gifts – got 4 major sigils of generosity of them, got some glue from them, got some stuffing material from them. People in snowball mayhem were linking their superior sigils of generosity they just got.
Got 6000 gifts outside of that game – yes I had them on different stacks – got all backpiece recipes from that, got no sigils, got no stuffing material, got no glue.
Do you have evidence to back up your claim that they dropped from every gift?
No backpiece recipes dropped in 2012. As for definite proof that they dropped from gifts everywhere, there isn’t any (just as there isn’t any definite proof that they dropped just from Snowball Mayhem). Regardless, I strongly doubt that Anet made it so that the gift boxes dropping from Snowball Mayhem had a different loot table than every other gift box drop. RNG is RNG.
Here are the drop/rate tables from the wiki, just because I was curious and looked them up. Just for the Giant and Large boxes.
Never said you were wrong. Just that you hadn’t proven your case. It just seemed odd that they would put a very very very rare drop with just one type of gift.
Which you now have unless someone can come in and say they got one outside of snowball mayhem or know someone who did. 0 in 6000 is a lot of rolls to not hit the magic one for the sigil.
I usually collect stacks because I think I will be more lucky when opening a lot at a time – and I’m fairly sure that I got my first major sigil when opening the first “few” of these “special” gifts and that was how I noticed. People who open their gifts right away won’t notice that there are 2 stacks, so it might well be that someone who got a sigil is convinced that it was a usual present. But wanze already said he opened what 50k? gifts and got no sigil. So maybe ask some people who haven’t played snowball mayhem but opened tons of usual gifts if they got a sigil.
Edit: And actually yeah – I was talking about 2013, not 2012.
You can’t say something doesn’t drop from something but not have the proof to back it up.
You say it only dropped in one area but only provided evidence for that one area. Not the other areas where you claim it never dropped.
Things don’t drop out of just one thing in this game. So you can’t use proof that it drops from Item 1 to say that it doesn’t drop in Item 2.
That’s the problem. You haven’t proven to anyone that it didn’t drop in places other than Snowball Mayhem. Just that the drop rate for it was likely abysmal.
Alright 500 games a about 4-5 or more gifts = ~2000 gifts – got 4 major sigils of generosity of them, got some glue from them, got some stuffing material from them. People in snowball mayhem were linking their superior sigils of generosity they just got.
Got 6000 gifts outside of that game – yes I had them on different stacks – got all backpiece recipes from that, got no sigils, got no stuffing material, got no glue.
Do you have evidence to back up your claim that they dropped from every gift?
No backpiece recipes dropped in 2012. As for definite proof that they dropped from gifts everywhere, there isn’t any (just as there isn’t any definite proof that they dropped just from Snowball Mayhem). Regardless, I strongly doubt that Anet made it so that the gift boxes dropping from Snowball Mayhem had a different loot table than every other gift box drop. RNG is RNG.
Here are the drop/rate tables from the wiki, just because I was curious and looked them up. Just for the Giant and Large boxes.
Yes: I started this game last year and wanted to have a superior sigil of generosity and was to stingy to pay for it. I have all backpiece recipes, thank you =) In fact I got everything from wintersday BUT a superior sigil of generosity.
Edit: I’m pretty sure that the old gifts were simply forgotten, that’s why they still had the stuff from 2012. Maybe it was even intended to put some fresh sigils in the 2013 gifts but that was forgotten as well. I just wish I had bought one last year ;)
You can’t say something doesn’t drop from something but not have the proof to back it up.
You say it only dropped in one area but only provided evidence for that one area. Not the other areas where you claim it never dropped.
Things don’t drop out of just one thing in this game. So you can’t use proof that it drops from Item 1 to say that it doesn’t drop in Item 2.
That’s the problem. You haven’t proven to anyone that it didn’t drop in places other than Snowball Mayhem. Just that the drop rate for it was likely abysmal.
Alright 500 games a about 4-5 or more gifts = ~2000 gifts – got 4 major sigils of generosity of them, got some glue from them, got some stuffing material from them. People in snowball mayhem were linking their superior sigils of generosity they just got.
Got 6000 gifts outside of that game – yes I had them on different stacks – got all backpiece recipes from that, got no sigils, got no stuffing material, got no glue.
Do you have evidence to back up your claim that they dropped from every gift?
No backpiece recipes dropped in 2012. As for definite proof that they dropped from gifts everywhere, there isn’t any (just as there isn’t any definite proof that they dropped just from Snowball Mayhem). Regardless, I strongly doubt that Anet made it so that the gift boxes dropping from Snowball Mayhem had a different loot table than every other gift box drop. RNG is RNG.
Here are the drop/rate tables from the wiki, just because I was curious and looked them up. Just for the Giant and Large boxes.
And Jana is talking about the Sigil of Generosity. Not a backpiece recipe. At least that’s my understanding of it.
Jana mentioned getting backpiece recipes, and I assumed they were talking about 2012 Wintersday instead of 2013. Hence my comment about the backpiece thingy.
so is anyone actually against making a sigil more accessible or what?
all is see is people arguing over inane factchecking
No, the point was that someone said these sigils have been availlable each year which they only were by accident last year, so maybe they won’t be availlable ths year at all. And that was what we sorted out. And hey, we’re not anet, we aren’t against making sigils more accessible (well if I had 5 stacks of them I might have something against it).
so is anyone actually against making a sigil more accessible or what?
all is see is people arguing over inane factchecking
No, the point was that someone said these sigils have been availlable each year which they only were by accident last year, so maybe they won’t be availlable ths year at all. And that was what we sorted out. And hey, we’re not anet, we aren’t against making sigils more accessible (well if I had 5 stacks of them I might have something against it).
And whether or not they were supposed to drop last year or not is part of establishing how available they already are. And you can only really say if something should be more or less available if you know how available they already are.
I would not have a problem with that particular sigil becoming more available. Either permanently part of Wintersday specific loot, or added to the more general loot tables. Depending on how much more available ANet wants it.
And whether or not they were supposed to drop last year or not is part of establishing how available they already are. And you can only really say if something should be more or less available if you know how available they already are.
Not sure if I got that right. So you think they were plenty around last year and that was why they were only availlable through one (maybe two) games?* They were 20 gold before wintersday last year, dropped to 19 gold during wintersday, rose to 40 gold til april then to 70 when the way sigils work was changed. After that I didn’t look them up anymore. Don’t think there’s that many of them anymore.
*Why not make them availlable in no matter what gift, even if it’s with a very slim chance?
