Guild Wars 2

These are close to a 1 gold. I need 250 of them.

Get just under 250G then.

These aren’t lodestones.

easily gotten from JP chests by characters lvl30-35.

I had a few unused alts parked at Troll’s End chest in LA and would log in everyday to pop the chest.. got 3-5 silver doubloons a week.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

easily gotten from JP chests by characters lvl30-35.

21-40*

At 41 it bumps up to Gold Doubloons. Below 21 it’s Copper.

Compared to the corresponding requirements in other Legendaries:

Twilight – 250 Cured Hardened Leather Squares
Dreamer – 100 Opal Orbs
Bifrost – 250 Unidentified dyes
Bolt – 250 Bolts of Gossamer

zzz….

Da Sonic.6521:

GrandmaFunk.3052:

easily gotten from JP chests by characters lvl30-35.

21-40*

At 41 it bumps up to Gold Doubloons. Below 21 it’s Copper.

I’ll double check but I’m fairly certain my lvl38 only gets the gold ones now.

Totally not sure about the lower limit, though.

projectcedric.6951:

Compared to the corresponding requirements in other Legendaries:…

Bolt – 250 Bolts of Gossamer

And Bolt’s Lodestone’s are like … 5x more expensive than Juggernaut’s.

Your point?

projectcedric.6951:

Twilight – 250 Cured Hardened Leather Squares

And Dusk is also … what, 240g more than Colossus? You really can’t complain about some parts being unfair for your desired Legendary when other parts of yours are more beneficial.

Wahh wahh, your Sigil cost you 2.5s or so while Predator’s costs 2.5g which is 100x more! I’m going to complain because this is downright unfair.

Don’t like what you need, don’t craft it. Simple as.

Flissy.4093:

projectcedric.6951:

Compared to the corresponding requirements in other Legendaries:…

Bolt – 250 Bolts of Gossamer

And Bolt’s Lodestone’s are like … 5x more expensive than Juggernaut’s.

Your point?

Don’t like what you need, don’t craft it. Simple as.

projectcedric.6951:

Twilight – 250 Cured Hardened Leather Squares

And Dusk is also … what, 240g more than Colossus?

Molten Lode: 150 × 70s = 105g

Charged Lode: 100 × 2g = 200g

Difference = 100g

Gossamer Bolt: 250 × 2s = 3g

Silver Doubloon: 250 × 82s =200g

Difference = 197g

Dusk’s expensiveness is not due to its rarity or difficulty of acquisition. Its due to the demand, which is hardly the game’s fault.

Furthermore, the rarity of lodestones can somehow be mitigated by the fact that you can upgrade lodestones. While you can upgrade most doubloons, you cannot upgrade copper doubloons to silver doubloons, which makes it even more ridiculous.

Flissy.4093:

Don’t like what you need, don’t craft it. Simple as.

HAHAHAHAHA. HAhaha. Ha ha. Ha. ha. ha.

Omg. So funny. My insides are hurting so much.

projectcedric.6951:

Molten Lode: 150 × 70s = 105g

Charged Lode: 100 × 2g = 200g

Difference = 100g

Gossamer Bolt: 250 × 2s = 3g

Silver Doubloon: 250 × 82s =200g

Difference = 197g

I made my Bolt when Charged were 3.2g each, and Molten were 50s each. Meaning Gift of Lightning was more expensive than Vial of Quicksilver.

I dare you to try and find a post of me complaining about this. I dare you.

projectcedric.6951:

Flissy.4093:

Don’t like what you need, don’t craft it. Simple as.

HAHAHAHAHA. HAhaha. Ha ha. Ha. ha. ha.

Omg. So funny. My insides are hurting so much.

I like how you couldn’t respond with anything constructive.

Flissy.4093:

And Dusk is also … what, 240g more than Colossus? You really can’t complain about some parts being unfair for your desired Legendary when other parts of yours are more beneficial.

What other parts exactly? All the rest are the same except for one gift and precursor. You cannot compare precursors at all because game-wise, all the precursors have the same rate of dropping. Their difference in prices is due to the difference in demand, which is playerbase’s fault rather than the game.

Flissy.4093:

Wahh wahh, your Sigil cost you 2.5s or so while Predator’s costs 2.5g which is 100x more! I’m going to complain because this is downright unfair.

And how many sigils do you need?

ONE.

projectcedric.6951:

What other parts exactly? All the rest are the same except for one gift and precursor. You cannot compare precursors at all because game-wise, all the precursors have the same rate of dropping. Their difference in prices is due to the difference in demand, which is playerbase’s fault rather than the game.

Legend is currently 1333g on the TP, with only 1 available. This is more than Dusk, but Twilight is the most sought after Legendary.

Tell me again that the rate of precursors is the same.

Oh, don’t forget you can forge precursors too, so supply/demand has nothing to do with it – more people will forge as supply increases. How many people do you know that throw in Tridents to get Venom?

Flissy.4093:

projectcedric.6951:

Molten Lode: 150 × 70s = 105g

Charged Lode: 100 × 2g = 200g

Difference = 100g

Gossamer Bolt: 250 × 2s = 3g

Silver Doubloon: 250 × 82s =200g

Difference = 197g

I made my Bolt when Charged were 3.2g each, and Molten were 50s each. Meaning Gift of Lightning was more expensive than Vial of Quicksilver.

I dare you to try and find a post of me complaining about this. I dare you.

I’ll actually add how it’s unfair that you only need 100 of your item, while I need 250 of mine!

projectcedric.6951:

Flissy.4093:

Don’t like what you need, don’t craft it. Simple as.

HAHAHAHAHA. HAhaha. Ha ha. Ha. ha. ha.

Omg. So funny. My insides are hurting so much.

I like how you couldn’t respond with anything constructive.

So? Is it my fault that you crafted your legendary during a different time when prices were different? For all I know, there could be a new way of acquiring silver doubloons tomorrow and prices could drop tremendously. Doesn’t mean my complaining NOW is illegitimate, because it pertains to the CURRENT system of things. Not in the past, nor tomorrow.

Just because you didn’t complain doesn’t mean i shouldn’t complain. If you didn’t make a cry for it, whose fault is that? Martyrdom isn’t noble at all.

Yup, I have nothing constructive to say to a pointless statement such as that.

Flissy.4093:

projectcedric.6951:

What other parts exactly? All the rest are the same except for one gift and precursor. You cannot compare precursors at all because game-wise, all the precursors have the same rate of dropping. Their difference in prices is due to the difference in demand, which is playerbase’s fault rather than the game.

Legend is currently 1333g on the TP, with only 1 available. This is more than Dusk, but Twilight is the most sought after Legendary.

Tell me again that the rate of precursors is the same.

Oh, don’t forget you can forge precursors too, so supply/demand has nothing to do with it – more people will forge as supply increases. How many people do you know that throw in Tridents to get Venom?

Oh my goodness…

This is gonna be hard to explain… But I will try my best to make it as easy for you as possible, okie?

Lets say that there are 100 exotics in the game. Chance of Colossus dropping = 1/100. Chance of Zap dropping = 1/100. With regards to acquisition from the game itself, the RATE OF ACQUIRING PRECURSORS ARE THE SAME.

What is not the same is the demand of each precursor. And this demand affects the availability and price of the item in the TP. This is not due to the game itself at all, but due to the behavior of players. It has got nothing to do with the game being unfair.

How in F’s name can you intentionally forge a specific precursor???? While the system is possibly being anticipated in the future, its not available yet. You can try and forge a RANDOM EXOTIC. Which means that once again all precursors has the same chance of coming out from this activity.

Oh. My. Goodness. Either you’re just a really smart troll, or… I hope you are.

projectcedric.6951:

Oh my goodness…

This is gonna be hard to explain… But I will try my best to make it as easy for you as possible, okie?

Lets say that there are 100 exotics in the game. Chance of Colossus dropping = 1/100. Chance of Zap dropping = 1/100. With regards to acquisition from the game itself, the RATE OF ACQUIRING PRECURSORS ARE THE SAME.

What is not the same is the demand of each precursor. And this demand affects the availability and price of the item in the TP. This is not due to the game itself at all, but due to the behavior of players. It has got nothing to do with the game being unfair.

How in F’s name can you intentionally forge a specific precursor???? While the system is possibly being anticipated in the future, its not available yet. You can try and forge a RANDOM EXOTIC. Which means that once again all precursors has the same chance of coming out from this activity.

Oh. My. Goodness. Either you’re just a really smart troll, or… I hope you are.

My point is we have no proof that the rate is the same. AN have yet to prove anything such.

In regards to forging them, you can throw in 4 Greatswords and you WILL get a Greatsword back, that means you can limit the pool of precursors you can get. If you want to craft a Dawn or Dusk, you can throw in 4 Greatswords and you CANNOT get any other precursors.

So yes, you can craft a specific precursor.

I just leveled an Alt Dredgehaunt, Lunars Pass i got a few silver Dabloons from the dredge bags they drop, hope it helps..

They are random drops tho, but remember this is Grindwars 2

Flissy.4093:

My point is we have no proof that the rate is the same. AN have yet to prove anything such.

What the… Lol. Well, I do sincerely hope that the rate is the same. Otherwise, a game I paid 60 bucks for is severely broken, which is even a greater reason to cry foul for.

Flissy.4093:

In regards to forging them, you can throw in 4 Greatswords and you WILL get a Greatsword back, that means you can limit the pool of precursors you can get. If you want to craft a Dawn or Dusk, you can throw in 4 Greatswords and you CANNOT get any other precursors.

So yes, you can craft a specific precursor.

No. You can craft a RANDOM EXOTIC of a SPECIFIC TYPE. If you rely on the chance of a specific precursor coming through this method, this means that all precursors still have the same chance of being acquired, simply because if you can do it with greatswords, you can do it with hammers too. As far as I can tell, their requirements are still the same – 4 of the same type.

Understand that the number of availability or price of the precursor on the TP has got nothing to do with the difficulty of acquisition of said precursor from the game completely. If you really want a fair comparison, compare the acquisition of something relative to another, without purchasing or selling anything from the TP.

Once the TP comes into discussion, a lot of other factors come in.

We are not talking about the in-game society being fair here. Obviously, there is some kind of overall bias towards greatswords, seeing how majority of legendary crafters want to craft greatswords (if you cant take my word for it, TP price of dusk and dawn is a testament to this).

What we are talking about is the game (mechanics) itself being fair under its own rules.

Of course, there is no need to state the obvious that the game doesn’t necessarily want to be fair. For example, perhaps, it doesn’t indeed want as many people who acquire a Juggernaut as much as people who acquire a Twilight.

There is also no need to point the obvious that things like ‘want’ is hard to quantify and kitten – and had I wanted to, I can simply opt to craft a different legendary (nothing is stopping me) or choose to craft none at all. These are all beside the point.

So with this, I end my participation in this ridiculous (troll-ful, I hope) discussion.

projectcedric.6951:

Once the TP comes into discussion, a lot of other factors come in.

You have just totally blown my mind, the overlooking issue was that Silver doubloons cost so much more than their counterparts from other Legendary.

projectcedric.6951:

So with this, I end my participation in this ridiculous … discussion.

Bye o/

I’d pay 25 silver for each silver d.

sadly for you, I just put up 10 of them up for 95s and they sold in under 20 minutes.

so it’s not looking to be going back down anytime soon.

Whoa whoa whoa. They are selling for almost 1g? Maybe I should sell the stack of them I have. I only bought them for around 50s a while back.

Was going to use them for Juggernaut but meh.

We have this conversation about every other month – you can make silver doubloons in the mystic forge with trivial materials – the person trying to speculate/gouge you for them in the TP will only succeed if you let them and will lose their shorts if you don’t.

It takes so long and is so finger tiring to use the mystic forge that it is basically better to just farm for gold… which is why the price is so high. Nuggets are also rising in price simply because people are destroying them in the mf to make doubloons, making it less profitable.