Guild Wars 2

The silver fed o’ matic, for 1 silver per use, this kit will endlessly salvage your goods with the power of a Master’s Salvage kit.

now this silver fed-o-matic costs 500 gems and 1 silver per use
A normal Master’s Salvage kit costs 15.36/25c so that’s roughly 64 copper per use.

Now I may be mistaken, but the point of a gem store item is convience right? now hardship. Buying this silver fed-o-matic leaves you worse a non-gemstore visitor

It’s not a scam, it’s just a bad deal for the average player.

But chances are there is a player out there who does not want to deal with Master kits and is too lazy, unlucky or oblivious to Master Salvage Kits.

You never have to buy new kits. That’s the convinience. If that’s useful… well. Up to you.

Yeah but 1s is pocket change, and your kit will never run out of uses. That’s the convenience.

It requires you to not know about mystic salvage kits.

If you do know about them then there is no reason to buy this.

It is both cost ineffective and still takes up the same amount of slots as a mystic salvage kit.

What I’d like to see is the cost lowered to 50 copper or .5 silver per salvage. That would mean that the cost per master kit is 12.5 silver but it would still be less cost effective than mystic kits if you REALLY want to break it down, its just more convenient and you don’t have to worry about having mystic forge stones. If THIS happened, I’d buy four of these kits with the 2K gems sitting on my account so I NEVER had to buy another salvage kit again.

if you cheap out and use self acquired forge stones you are wasting 90c per salvage
if you’re a salvage junkie who purchases stones in the gem store
you are saving 11.40s per salvage

that’s actually my math from a few weeks ago, so it’s probably saving certain people a bit more.. it’s like the food and utility primers, if i use it on completely cheap food there’s no advantage to using it.. but in some rare instances it could sort of be useful.. also, you just need to consider that the copper fed is totally sound and usually costs more gems.. this was a simple revamp and costs less gems and more importantly took very little effort for arena net to implement so you can’t really blame them for doing so..

Copper-Fed Salvage-o-Matic =3 copper per salvage
3Copper X 25Uses from a basic salvage kit (sale price 88 Copper)
25×3=75 copper (ultimately saving you some coin with the copper fed)

Silver-Fed Salvage-o-Matic =1 silver per salvage
1Silver x 25Uses from a Master’s Salvage kit (sale price 15 Silver, 36 copper)
1×25=25 silver (Total loss 9 Silver, 64 Copper)

I get the convinience of it is awesome, but it would burn a whole in you’re coin count rather quickly, especially for dungeon/fractel daily farmer’s.

If anyone else agrees please help expand on this, or otherwise feel free to express why im wrong… I dont see a good purchase out of this at all.

Yup…it’s part of a disturbing trend of hardcore rip off items hitting the gem store.

Overall, it’s a pretty depressing thing to see on the GW2 anniversary.

I love this game, I really do, but stuff like this really hurts the game’s credibility. GW2’s gemstore actually won me over to being open towards an MMO with a cash shop because it was actually done pretty well. But now….

Heck, I’d pay 800 gems, for a .5 silver per salvage version of this item. I have to use master kits SO often because I just don’t have the Mystic Forge Stones often enough for the Mystic Kits. And those go SO quickly. I use master kits for EVERYTHING anyways. It’d be perfect for me IF the cost was right. That’s all I’m asking ANet. Make the cost RIGHT for the players, like you did with the Copper-Fed.

How about this.. I know the 1 silver cost can be a bit meh.. but why not have this instead.. bypass the “are you sure you want to salvage this rare?” .. question.. i get tired of having to hit accept and pressing OK.. scrolling back up to the silver fed thing.. double click… go back to the rare .. hit accept…. go back up again.. double click.. over and over

This is the most annoying thing ever.

We need to keep making threads like this (and yes I am being serious). Anet isn’t going to change a thing unless they see a majority of the players complaining about it.

I also agree it is a rip off.. so +1 OP

Yep, I love my copper-fed and was looking forward to this until I saw the silver cost.
Absolute rip-off, and I will not be purchasing it.

Yeah this is ridiculous, I could understand you losing a little bit on it as a convenience cost, but nine silver isn’t a little bit, that is basically losing the profit of 2-3 of your salvages out of every 25 as compared to using a kit.

Yeah I saw this. And thought what? But my question is. Would this be a cheaper option over the mystic salvage kit?

1 silver per salvage is kind of high don’t you think? I would think 60 copper is more ideal.

If you want people to actually purchase this from the Gem Store, I’d highly suggest dropping the salvage cost. It would bring in more sales for sure, and would end up making you guys a lot more money to work on improving the game even further.

Do you think players are going to buy something thats going to drain their in game money faster when all they have to do is use the master’s salvage kit instead to save money?

The reason why the copper-fed salvage-o-matic is worth getting, is because it costs around the same price for the basic kit.

If you whoever reads this agrees with me just give me a +1 .. if not then do a -1 You don’t have to give a reason.. I’ve already done that for you.

Ayakaru.6583:

now this silver fed-o-matic costs 500 gems and 1 silver per use
A normal Master’s Salvage kit costs 15.36/25c so that’s roughly 64 copper per use.

fair woud be 500gems for convinience and to cost 64copper per use. In game economy will be the same like I woud bought master salvage kits from vendors and anet woud earn few bucks on the side. Win Win? aparently not, they made it 1s for no aparent reason that is call SILVER fed-o-matic so they tought lets make it a silver per use

Either lower the price or boost the chance of better materials so that it would be preferable to the Master Salvage Kit. It seems obvious they just wanted to use the name `silver fed` to complement the `copper fed` kit and didn’t really think it through.

Anyways, in a couple of months when their data tells them that nobody is buying this kit something will probably be adjusted. And if you are one of the few people that buys this now, don’t complain that is is unfair if it gets changed later. You’ve already been warned this is a poor bargain…

Thanks for the information, I almost bought it. But now I will inform my friends of that rip off..

It might be an ingenious, hidden gold sink. :P

I hope the sake of people that don’t care.. at least gets their current one updated, it would be unfair for those people to have to rebuy a new one for the updated change.

I really don’t like any of those material fed salvage kits. If you wonna convert gold into gems they’ll gonna cost you 65-105-g. Plus you still have to pay for the materials to fuel those things. Since I go to clean my inventory anyway i prefer buying normal kits. In my lifetime i will never spend 65g on salvage kits. You’re being ripped off either way.

http://dulfy.net/2014/08/28/gw2-silver-fed-salvage-o-matic-now-in-gemstore/

Posted on the BL forums, but dulfy does some math on this, according to her, the cost of a silver fed matic charge is TEN times the cost of an mystic salvage kit salvage.

It would take about 60K+ salvages to pay off one kit with today’s gems-to-gold IF they moved the cost to .5silver per salvage. To me that is WELL worth it. I would buy 4 of them and have paid them off in a year.

I bet they did select the price to go with the name, but didn’t anyone at ANet do basic math to see if it’s economically feasible for players at that price? This strikes me as another example of poor quality control.

It seems, they merged our topics together… THANKS FOR NOT NOTIFYING ME!

OP you have more info than the dev who created this… it was obviusly too time demanding to log into the game and actually see how much a master salvager costs per use.

I’ve been waiting for this kit, expecting roughly the same ratio of fuel (in game money) for use to Master Kit cost as the Copper one has compared to the basic kit. I was all ready to buy it until I did some quick math. Now, I’m very annoyed and upset that, unless they change it, I’ll never buy it

Rotten move Anet. I wanted to pay you for the kit, but the value compared to your original one just isn’t there!

Aeon.4127:

Copper-Fed Salvage-o-Matic =3 copper per salvage
3Copper X 25Uses from a basic salvage kit (sale price 88 Copper)
25×3=75 copper (ultimately saving you some coin with the copper fed)

Silver-Fed Salvage-o-Matic =1 silver per salvage
1Silver x 25Uses from a Master’s Salvage kit (sale price 15 Silver, 36 copper)
1×25=25 silver (Total loss 9 Silver, 64 Copper)

I get the convinience of it is awesome, but it would burn a whole in you’re coin count rather quickly, especially for dungeon/fractel daily farmer’s.

If anyone else agrees please help expand on this, or otherwise feel free to express why im wrong… I dont see a good purchase out of this at all.

100% agree, wont go anywhere near it until they change the silver cost.
Well, i have a personal merchant for selling my junk items, so i can always just pop it to get another master kit, w/e.

What’s next, gold-fed-o-matic?

Wanted: Monetization Specialist. Maths skills not required. Understanding of the phrase “micro-transactions” not required. Ability to price everything 4 times higher than the average player would impulse buy at mandatory.

Seriously guys, I suggest an experiment – put an awesome looking complete set of armor onto the gem store at 200 gems, then sit back and watch the entire player base buy it, netting you far more money than you get by pricing everything way too high.

Still no updates on this item. I really wish that they would fix it. Then I can buy it, and everything would be right in the world. I love you guys Arenanet. But this was a BAD idea.

Hi everyone,

We already have a thread about this topic here. Therefore, we’ll now close this one in order to avoid duplicates.

Thank you for your understanding.