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Posted by: Evalia.7103

Evalia.7103

Will it stop/be brought to an end?
It seems pretty insane. You get great returns from it. In fact so great it bleaks everything else. :P

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Posted by: Nury.3062

Nury.3062

I could never understand the reason behind this type of threads?
What’s your problem?
It’s because you can’t farm after going to sleep and other continue?
(or maybe is sarcasm and idk….i still haven’t checked the silverwastes more then 5min)

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Posted by: Sube Dai.8496

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It will definitely get towned down. Just enjoy it while you can.

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Posted by: Bogy.2953

Bogy.2953

I could never understand the reason behind this type of threads?
What’s your problem?
It’s because you can’t farm after going to sleep and other continue?
(or maybe is sarcasm and idk….i still haven’t checked the silverwastes more then 5min)

why so salty

its pretty obvious that they didn’t test this farm because the rewards you get are so great for basically doing kitten all

but hey at least we get to enjoy value town for a weekend

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Posted by: Ragnarox.9601

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Its a great farmfest and i enjoy it. Farmed 500 chests today and get 107g profit so i need 34 gold to finish my legendary finally. But yes, it killed dungeons and other places because today i waited like 20 mins in HotW que and no one was there, even CoF took me 15 mins to find someone for party.

And i’ve heard that even tequatl failed on some maps because of lack of ppl.

and btw. 500 chests opened – 7 exotics (2 were swords 7g worth) and some random exotics. But materials gave me lots and lots of gold

This will be nerfed soon so enjoy while it last.

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Posted by: HHR LostProphet.4801

HHR LostProphet.4801

This wont be toned down because it’s intended.

Seriously, if noone at ANet saw that coming then it’s their own fault.
There is one simple rule to follow: The game doesn’t offer anything for the players with proper rewards, so anything that is more rewarding will be farmed like crazy.
And this will be the case until ANet fixes their economy, which is way too gold reliant at the moment. Having everything aviable on the TP is bad.

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Posted by: DeWolfe.2174

DeWolfe.2174

The returns are that great…..

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Posted by: Nury.3062

Nury.3062

“Economy way too gold reliant” …. it’s economy………………..

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Posted by: THuGaNoMiX.5036

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I look at it as a gift from ANET, no matter how long it lasts before getting nerfed it has been a nice way to finally make some gold.

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Posted by: HHR LostProphet.4801

HHR LostProphet.4801

“Economy way too gold reliant” …. it’s economy………………..

It’s not like they could create a new currency so that their economy doesn’t go to hell every time something is farm-able.

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Posted by: Allisa Wonderland.8192

Allisa Wonderland.8192

I love armchair economists.

Farm hard and sell your stock before the prices drop too far. Cash is king!

Bonetti’s Rapier down from 12g to 5g, for example. If you have lots of gold saved up, its appreciating in value right now.

I’m glad to see there is a farm to switch between with Orr, to avoid diminishing returns penalties.

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Posted by: Evalia.7103

Evalia.7103

I love armchair economists.

Farm hard and sell your stock before the prices drop too far. Cash is king!

Bonetti’s Rapier down from 12g to 5g, for example. If you have lots of gold saved up, its appreciating in value right now.

I’m glad to see there is a farm to switch between with Orr, to avoid diminishing returns penalties.

There are no diminishing returns on chest farm.
Not to mention that rewards bleak whatever Orr farming has given you before.
I’ve managed to farm ~400 obsidian shards in 2 days which I’ve needed for my legendary, I would say in about 6-7 hours of “chesting”. Would I really be able to get 800+k karma in any other way in a similar time span?
Hundreds of skillpoints/gold also came attached with it.

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Posted by: Xenon.4537

Xenon.4537

It will no doubt get toned down, but if I were Anet, I would be waiting until next patch when more of the map is unlocked and players start to spread out more. That way they know just how much it actually needs to be adjusted.

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

Malediktus.9250

I love armchair economists.

Farm hard and sell your stock before the prices drop too far. Cash is king!

Bonetti’s Rapier down from 12g to 5g, for example. If you have lots of gold saved up, its appreciating in value right now.

I’m glad to see there is a farm to switch between with Orr, to avoid diminishing returns penalties.

The peak price of the rapier was 80g in the last 30 days. It dropped a lot more than from 12g to 5g.

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Posted by: Exeon.4358

Exeon.4358

Dunno it didn’t seem very profitable to me, I opened 2 stacks of those coin purses and wasn’t really satisfied it’s RNG based and to be honest for gold purposes Cursed shore lootbag farming and Dungeons are more reliable

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Posted by: THuGaNoMiX.5036

THuGaNoMiX.5036

Dunno it didn’t seem very profitable to me, I opened 2 stacks of those coin purses and wasn’t really satisfied it’s RNG based and to be honest for gold purposes Cursed shore lootbag farming and Dungeons are more reliable

Considering I made about 120 gold today I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

Khisanth.2948

It seems nice but then you consider the fact that you don’t get any loot from the mobs …
It’s the kind of loot you would normally be getting if the game gave drops based on doing “stuff” rather than “tagging every mob”.

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Posted by: ZudetGambeous.9573

ZudetGambeous.9573

I was initially all for keeping this farm, but turns out when it is done right it is rather insane.

You can get up to 120 champ bags/hr… I got 14 exotics, 150g in loot, 500 obby shards, 14 stacks of emp frags, 15 stacks of dragonite, and a crap ton of essences of luck today, just from 2-3 hours of farming.

Ascended mats and karma are now completely meaningless, and gold isn’t far behind.

Edit: That said, this is GW2. Exploit/farm early and often is essentially the tagline for this game. So get your farm on now or you will be left behind.

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Posted by: Allisa Wonderland.8192

Allisa Wonderland.8192

My main question is wehther we finally get MF affecting these chests.

1) why the perseverance buff if we don’t and,
2) Wooden Potatoes mentioned these chests and MF briefly in his patch video… accidental mechanics spoiler?

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Posted by: Flitzie.6082

Flitzie.6082

eh?! Have I been missing something?
Ill try that area again tomorrow.

I’ve been farming a couple of hours in the silverwastes but the rewards are not THAT great. of course you get a lot of loot. But its mostly trash loot and a few T6. maybe one or two exotics worth 5-10g a day. How is that a lot?

Maybe I haven’t found the most efficient route yet.
Of course mass-farming chests is awesome….

You get quite a good amount of silk though, this is a good thing. Maybe prices might drop, who knows.

You touched the shiny, didn’t you?

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Posted by: Amurond.4590

Amurond.4590

I love the exaggeration and hyperbole you find in these farm threads.

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Posted by: Matisse.9356

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I was initially all for keeping this farm, but turns out when it is done right it is rather insane.

You can get up to 120 champ bags/hr… I got 14 exotics, 150g in loot, 500 obby shards, 14 stacks of emp frags, 15 stacks of dragonite, and a crap ton of essences of luck today, just from 2-3 hours of farming.

Ascended mats and karma are now completely meaningless, and gold isn’t far behind.

Edit: That said, this is GW2. Exploit/farm early and often is essentially the tagline for this game. So get your farm on now or you will be left behind.

Whilst the rewards are admittedly nice and the days of dragonite shortage are finally over (Thank Goodness!), your statement is an exaggeration. Even with a well-organised farm, you won’t get even close to what you claim.
But I’m glad that you feel the rewards are as plentiful as you describe them.

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Posted by: DeWolfe.2174

DeWolfe.2174

I’m extremely skeptical about these numbers being tossed around. It’s not that lucrative if you actually defend and escort. Sure, like LA living story events and Boss Blitz there are those leeching off the work of others. Though even they are not getting the return some have claimed.

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Posted by: Azure.8670

Azure.8670

I was there about 5 hours just doing achievements and such and got 5 stacks of dragonite ore, 140 champ bags, those rare equipment bags around 30 of them, and a kittenload of other stuff. the farm is a little too good but whatever

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Posted by: Shifu.4321

Shifu.4321

120 bags per hour is a little high, but it’s not impossible to get 80 bags per hour with a map dedicated solely to looting chests. I literally got 500 bags today in about 6 hours of opening these chests.

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Posted by: johnnymiller.5968

johnnymiller.5968

Yeah, lets nerf everything. The loot so far has not been any better than you get elsewhere. At least for me. 522% magic find while running the events, which gave 2 rare items from all the bags collected. Like most other events items dropped are mostly green, blue & white. Good for increasing base magic find.
This was from a 4 hour period.

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Posted by: Azure.8670

Azure.8670

Yeah, lets nerf everything. The loot so far has not been any better than you get elsewhere. At least for me. 522% magic find while running the events, which gave 2 rare items from all the bags collected. Like most other events items dropped are mostly green, blue & white. Good for increasing base magic find.
This was from a 4 hour period.

2 rare items in 4 hours? I get more than that killing moas in queensdale. such lies

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Posted by: johnnymiller.5968

johnnymiller.5968

Yeah, lets nerf everything. The loot so far has not been any better than you get elsewhere. At least for me. 522% magic find while running the events, which gave 2 rare items from all the bags collected. Like most other events items dropped are mostly green, blue & white. Good for increasing base magic find.
This was from a 4 hour period.

2 rare items in 4 hours? I get more than that killing moas in queensdale. such lies

It’s fact. Only 2 rare items dropped. A piece of armor plus a sword.
Certainly not the first time this has happened. Some days I get a few, others I get very little.

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Posted by: Mityr.1320

Mityr.1320

Yeah, lets nerf everything. The loot so far has not been any better than you get elsewhere. At least for me. 522% magic find while running the events, which gave 2 rare items from all the bags collected. Like most other events items dropped are mostly green, blue & white. Good for increasing base magic find.
This was from a 4 hour period.

2 rare items in 4 hours? I get more than that killing moas in queensdale. such lies

The magic find is pretty useless in Silverwastes cuz the mobs doesnt drop items so often. Sometime a green, a blue, a rare….the real farm are the crests, the bandit chests and the bonus rewards for completing the events(got 2 exos from that), all stuff that isnt affected by mf.

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Posted by: johnnymiller.5968

johnnymiller.5968

Yeah, lets nerf everything. The loot so far has not been any better than you get elsewhere. At least for me. 522% magic find while running the events, which gave 2 rare items from all the bags collected. Like most other events items dropped are mostly green, blue & white. Good for increasing base magic find.
This was from a 4 hour period.

2 rare items in 4 hours? I get more than that killing moas in queensdale. such lies

The magic find is pretty useless in Silverwaste cuz the mobs doesnt drop items so often. Sometime a green, a blue, a rare….the real farm are the crests, the bandit chests and the bonus rewards for completing the events(got 2 exos from that), all stuff that isnt affected by mf.

Which leads to the question of why we get such a large boost in mf while in Silverwaste?

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Posted by: Shifu.4321

Shifu.4321

I think people are confused with farming the events as opposed to farming the chests. The event completion is mediocre loot, but the chest farming nets you A LOT.

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Posted by: Tomas.5029

Tomas.5029

I knew this was going the happen the moment i learned that Silverwastes will not have a “Sandstorm” mechanic when it comes to chests.
In my opinion, they could tone it down by lengthening the time out period by another 5 minutes, but making the chests farmable only during this period, making it essentialy a “You farmed your crests, now you got 10 minutes to use them” period. The moment the events start rolling, the shovels would become unusable until the next time out. Which also should lead to making the Shovels a buyable item for crests.

The big positive side for this farm would be the fact that people are finally able to afford those high end items they really wanted, but never had the time to dedicate hours of time to them like Ascended items, Legendary weapons, or the very rare Mystic Forge exotics (like Whisperblade etc).
The big negative is that it has become the be-all end-all farming spot. Everything else pales in comparision – halloween lab, dungeons, world boss farming etc. – nothing brings you such sheer profit as the chest farm. I personally don’t think that it’s a healthy thing for this world to have that. Some zones and areas of the game are already kind of abandoned (Fractals are such a pain to organize through lfg these days), and this is only worsening this problem.

So, either tone it down, or make other alternatives just as attractive.

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Posted by: johnnymiller.5968

johnnymiller.5968

I knew this was going the happen the moment i learned that Silverwastes will not have a “Sandstorm” mechanic when it comes to chests.
In my opinion, they could tone it down by lengthening the time out period by another 5 minutes, but making the chests farmable only during this period, making it essentialy a “You farmed your crests, now you got 10 minutes to use them” period. The moment the events start rolling, the shovels would become unusable until the next time out. Which also should lead to making the Shovels a buyable item for crests.

The big positive side for this farm would be the fact that people are finally able to afford those high end items they really wanted, but never had the time to dedicate hours of time to them like Ascended items, Legendary weapons, or the very rare Mystic Forge exotics (like Whisperblade etc).
The big negative is that it has become the be-all end-all farming spot. Everything else pales in comparision – halloween lab, dungeons, world boss farming etc. – nothing brings you such sheer profit as the chest farm. I personally don’t think that it’s a healthy thing for this world to have that. Some zones and areas of the game are already kind of abandoned (Fractals are such a pain to organize through lfg these days), and this is only worsening this problem.

So, either tone it down, or make other alternatives just as attractive.

People were doing all events tonight & farming chests when they dropped. There were not huge amounts of people either. Eventually the novelty will die off, unless players start picking up lots of exotic items, including precursors.

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Posted by: Devildoc.6721

Devildoc.6721

Dunno it didn’t seem very profitable to me, I opened 2 stacks of those coin purses and wasn’t really satisfied it’s RNG based and to be honest for gold purposes Cursed shore lootbag farming and Dungeons are more reliable

Considering I made about 120 gold today I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you.

I fail to see how. I’ve gotten a lot of dragonite ore but I’m not really getting anything sellable, just salvage junk but not even enough silk to really make a difference.

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Posted by: ZudetGambeous.9573

ZudetGambeous.9573

I was initially all for keeping this farm, but turns out when it is done right it is rather insane.

You can get up to 120 champ bags/hr… I got 14 exotics, 150g in loot, 500 obby shards, 14 stacks of emp frags, 15 stacks of dragonite, and a crap ton of essences of luck today, just from 2-3 hours of farming.

Ascended mats and karma are now completely meaningless, and gold isn’t far behind.

Edit: That said, this is GW2. Exploit/farm early and often is essentially the tagline for this game. So get your farm on now or you will be left behind.

Whilst the rewards are admittedly nice and the days of dragonite shortage are finally over (Thank Goodness!), your statement is an exaggeration. Even with a well-organised farm, you won’t get even close to what you claim.
But I’m glad that you feel the rewards are as plentiful as you describe them.

Thankfully my bank does not need you to believe it for it to be true. Hey doesn’t bother me in the slightest, I will just keep farming it and getting more and more stuff. Of course I am just deleting the ascended mats now, and I might have to start deleting the obby shards too if I get another stack or two. Gold thankfully I can always use more of.

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Posted by: DDCarvalho.2071

DDCarvalho.2071

I hope they instead of nerfing it, tweak it.
For example, redistribute the chests so instead of having 10 at amber, there is 5 at each fort.
Also, make them only discoverable when the fort is in Pact control and with no defense events active.
Make the fort “irradiate” magic find that is higher the higher is the fort defense level.
This way, we have fun farming as the same time as we have the map working as intended.

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Posted by: Apolo.5942

Apolo.5942

Actually after doing it for a while, it is not that profitable. You get mostly tier 3 mats which are more of a convenience thing than anything else, a lot of mithrill, some ori, and some clothes.
The thing is, after 400 crafting, what you really need is ECTOS it all revolves around ECTOS, thats why they are so kitten expensive, and to be quite honest, you dont get all that many, in fact you are likely more efficient doing the world bosses run since they have guaranteed yellows rather then farming chests
The only real advantage chests give you is if you want tier 3 bloods, scales and so on, in general not one in particular, then yes that is a good place to farm. otherwise not so grate.

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Posted by: THuGaNoMiX.5036

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Dunno it didn’t seem very profitable to me, I opened 2 stacks of those coin purses and wasn’t really satisfied it’s RNG based and to be honest for gold purposes Cursed shore lootbag farming and Dungeons are more reliable

Considering I made about 120 gold today I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you.

I fail to see how. I’ve gotten a lot of dragonite ore but I’m not really getting anything sellable, just salvage junk but not even enough silk to really make a difference.

Opening exactly 500 Exotic Coin Purses again today netted me 94 gold today. So one day opening 500 I got 120 gold and today opening 500 got me 94 gold. Pretty big difference, but prices are also dropping and I’m a fire seller so I just sell instantly on the TP.

The main money maker is selling the t6 mats and you get about a stack of silk from salvaging all the blues and greens. Gotten about 3 exotics each time opening 500 bags and several rares that I salvage for ectos.

In 1000 bags so far I have also gotten 4 charged lodestones that sell for 3 gold each. If you are salvaging and selling everything you should make probably a minimum of 80 gold per 500 Exotic Coin Purses in my opinion.

It is by far the best farm in the game considering you can get about 80 Purses/HR so 12.5 hrs for 1000 Exotic Bags. 214 Gold in 12.5 hrs is 17.12 gold per hr.

17.12 Gold Per Hour is a kitten good farm in this game.

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Posted by: whitz.7246

whitz.7246

Must be the good old RNG working against me (as usual) because I am not getting the good stuff like some posters above. I’m lucky to get 1 key for 4 hours playing I get loads of greens and blues, a lot of bloodstone dust and dragonite ore ( which I have to destroy now). After 4 hrs. play I received 3 exotics. Wish I had the luck that other players are receiving lol Please don’t nerf I feel I am already playing a nerf loot game.

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Posted by: CMM.6712

CMM.6712

Must be the good old RNG working against me (as usual) because I am not getting the good stuff like some posters above. I’m lucky to get 1 key for 4 hours playing I get loads of greens and blues, a lot of bloodstone dust and dragonite ore ( which I have to destroy now). After 4 hrs. play I received 3 exotics. Wish I had the luck that other players are receiving lol Please don’t nerf I feel I am already playing a nerf loot game.

You buy the keys from the merchant for crests.

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Posted by: whitz.7246

whitz.7246

oops sorry CMM, I meant shovels. Not so much buying but a better drop rate would be nice lol

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Posted by: CMM.6712

CMM.6712

oops sorry CMM, I meant shovels. Not so much buying but a better drop rate would be nice lol

If you are on a populated map you don’t need shovels just keys.

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Posted by: Zepher.7803

Zepher.7803

They Are making sure we choke on all the loot! it is that time of year you know

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Posted by: Harper.4173

Harper.4173

It’s truly one of the best things they’ve ever done. Didn’t get to do it that much – prolly only did about 100 chests but will be sure to start doing it more.

I hope this is intended – because honestly I can’t see them not seeing this coming.
It’s also brought a lot of people together and if you think about it all the money is being made because people are banding together and cooperating in a non-toxic way.

It’s a very good counter to the toxic event-failing farms of days not so long gone.

I hope this is here to stay. I’ve seen a lot of players who finally got that extra money/shards they needed and honestly what brings people more joy than being able to get your next shiny item?

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Posted by: Apolo.5942

Apolo.5942

It’s truly one of the best things they’ve ever done. Didn’t get to do it that much – prolly only did about 100 chests but will be sure to start doing it more.

I hope this is intended – because honestly I can’t see them not seeing this coming.
It’s also brought a lot of people together and if you think about it all the money is being made because people are banding together and cooperating in a non-toxic way.

It’s a very good counter to the toxic event-failing farms of days not so long gone.

I hope this is here to stay. I’ve seen a lot of players who finally got that extra money/shards they needed and honestly what brings people more joy than being able to get your next shiny item?

actually most of the money is going into the gold black whole that is crafting ascendants

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Posted by: Langdon.9738

Langdon.9738

amber farm has been patched according to wiki. “Fixed a bug in which Lost Bandit Chests near Amber Sandfall spawned too fast and too numerously.”~ what I hear: Lost Bandit Chests wasn’t really a bug, we just underestimated the zerg’s ability to undermine and make trivial the spawn rate we set in place.

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Posted by: Kasima.8143

Kasima.8143

Its a great farmfest and i enjoy it. Farmed 500 chests today and get 107g profit so i need 34 gold to finish my legendary finally. But yes, it killed dungeons and other places because today i waited like 20 mins in HotW que and no one was there, even CoF took me 15 mins to find someone for party.

And i’ve heard that even tequatl failed on some maps because of lack of ppl.

and btw. 500 chests opened – 7 exotics (2 were swords 7g worth) and some random exotics. But materials gave me lots and lots of gold

This will be nerfed soon so enjoy while it last.

A LARGE part of why people just left everything and went to farm was because they knew that it was going to get nerfed. Many people (quick survey I did in a few map chats and with guildies) farmed this non-stop for that reason, but would have gone to do other things if they knew that it wasn’t going to be nerfed.
So part of the problem stemmed from Anet’s apparent habit of “accidentally” making balance-breaking farms that later get nerfed. So of course once such a farm pops up, everyone leave what they’re doing to go farm it while it lasts.

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Posted by: Bloodstealer.5978

Bloodstealer.5978

This wont be toned down because it’s intended.

Seriously, if noone at ANet saw that coming then it’s their own fault.
There is one simple rule to follow: The game doesn’t offer anything for the players with proper rewards, so anything that is more rewarding will be farmed like crazy.
And this will be the case until ANet fixes their economy, which is way too gold reliant at the moment. Having everything aviable on the TP is bad.

Must hurt to be wrong… farm nerf declared… loot suppression incoming

As for it being patched due to a bug.. doubtful, more like ANET just yet again failed to understand how their content becomes insignificant when easy loot is available and that is a trend we seem to be seeing more and more.
Thankfully this kind of easy win farm required no exploitation in order for it to bare fruit but the fact remains it was a really poorly thought out idea which, like the exploitable farms previous has now allowed the economy to be flooded with excess of materials, item and gold…. but pfft, I enjoyed it while it lasted, not like the rewards for doing the actual events or the breach are anywhere near worth the effort, so back to CS or Drytop for me

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Posted by: Paradox.1380

Paradox.1380

This wont be toned down because it’s intended.

Seriously, if noone at ANet saw that coming then it’s their own fault.
There is one simple rule to follow: The game doesn’t offer anything for the players with proper rewards, so anything that is more rewarding will be farmed like crazy.
And this will be the case until ANet fixes their economy, which is way too gold reliant at the moment. Having everything aviable on the TP is bad.

Must hurt to be wrong… farm nerf declared… loot suppression incoming

As for it being patched due to a bug.. doubtful, more like ANET just yet again failed to understand how their content becomes insignificant when easy loot is available and that is a trend we seem to be seeing more and more.
Thankfully this kind of easy win farm required no exploitation in order for it to bare fruit but the fact remains it was a really poorly thought out idea which, like the exploitable farms previous has now allowed the economy to be flooded with excess of materials, item and gold…. but pfft, I enjoyed it while it lasted, not like the rewards for doing the actual events or the breach are anywhere near worth the effort, so back to CS or Drytop for me

Excess Gold/Materials is a fallacy. This is seriously no different in terms of loot generation that Crown Pavilion. I distinctly remember Gold Boss Blitz Farming in July where thousands of Champ bags were put into the system. 10champ bags in 6 minutes that was repeatable.
It may not be on the same “scale” but I highly doubt its not intentional. Maybe they are trying to drive down prices of some things that were getting outta control? Powerful Blood was 70silver a few days before the patch… That’s ridiculous.

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Posted by: Chalky.8540

Chalky.8540

Hahaha, well it was good while it lasted.

This was pretty obviously coming, Anet had turned that zone into one where you simply run around and press F to get champion bags – easily 100+ per hour.

Anyone know how hard this nerf is?