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Posted by: RockinTalvin.9824

RockinTalvin.9824

Hey everybody,

this one’s about my personal experience with a new way to play Guild Wars 2. Just like lots of you guys, I’m playing this game since release. I have three Level 80 characters and played lots of, lots of hours – although I’m far from hardcore. Nowadays my playtime is more like 4-5 hours a week, which is all I get beside my family.

Now, while within these almost 5 years of Guild Wars 2, I never managed to build up a connection to the game world. For me, there barely was an immersion. Much unlike the good old World of Warcraft, where I can still remember running around Mulgore Fields during sunset.

I thought about this and came to the conclusion that this is not the fault of the world itself. The maps are beautiful crafted, the sound (music & enviroment) is phenomenal. I think, it way my playstyle that was ruining the experience for me. When there was something to do (e.g. killing a world boss), I jumped to a waypoint, waited 5 minutes, did what I had to do and jumped to the next event. I barely took notice of this great game world, because I didn’t take my time to do so. I don’t know, how many hours I spent running around crossroads or mulgore in World of Warcraft, but I’m absolutely sure, that it was way more than in any other GW2-Map. I knew every rock within those maps.

This all changed with the Lake Doric-Map, which had only very few waypoints. One day, I decided to skip even these waypoints. I simply walked (or flew) my way across the map and took all those events I quests, I stumbled upon. I only used waypoints to resurrect. By taking much more time traversing the map, I realized, that I managed to get a feeling for the world again. For the eerie atmosphere of the melandru-shrine, the beauty of the peach tree and the creepiness of the lost woods. I loved, how the soundscape and the general mood changed, when I came to a new location. It was a blast.

Now, with the new Caladbold-Quest, I decided to visit the places and search for the shards without using ANY waypoints. Only asuran portals were allowed. I asked myself, if that experience could be repeated on any other map. And to my joy, that was the case.

By traversing the world of Tyria, I came across events, players and places, I’d never seen before. I revisited old maps and did some old events, found lots of new events and just had a blast of a time. Again, I way able to get a hang for those maps, just like in those glory days with World of Warcraft. And, by the way, traveling from Lions Arch to the hearts of maguuma really feels like reaching the end of the world. Suddenly you can relate to a Soldier, who asks you, If you’d found a way out the jungle. You are trapped within this deadly, tangled jungle and really have to watch your step. Even though traveling across the jungle was oftentimes frustrating, it really felt like an accomplishment, finding the shard within the tangled depth.

So, I think, I will never go back to using waypoints. The world is too vivid, too beautiful to skip everything with a click on a waypoint.

So, unless you have the “Been there, done that”-Achievement, I recommend, trying out this way experience Guild Wars 2. Even for those, who won’t have much time for the game. The content will wait for you. Chances are high, that you will simply have more fun. And that’s what games are about!


tl;dr:
Found out, that skipping waypoints and running across the world is much more enjoyable for me. Try it out!

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Posted by: Boysenberry.1869

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I liked Guild Wars 1’s map method where you could only map to cities and towns and then had to explore from there. If you died, each map had a handful of resurrection points. You unlocked them as you explored and they allowed you to re-spawn if you died, but you still had to journey back to your spot of death.

Guild Wars 2 is just completely flooded with waypoints every 3 feet. Oh no I died…oh who cares because I can re-spawn right where I died.

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Posted by: Greener.6204

Greener.6204

Along the same vein, I happened to catch someone streaming the new Zelda game without fast traveling to locations. It made that world feel even more alive as well.

I’m glad you were able to build a stronger connection to the game, and I hope it continues to grow.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

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What is this? Someone realizing that they can avoid using waypoints even if they exist? Is this a dream?

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Posted by: Fiddlestyx.9714

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What is this? Someone realizing that they can avoid using waypoints even if they exist? Is this a dream?

It’s about how convenience creates apathy.
http://imgur.com/BKzMc89
http://imgur.com/PMwQRdj

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Posted by: SlippyCheeze.5483

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What is this? Someone realizing that they can avoid using waypoints even if they exist? Is this a dream?

It’s about how convenience creates apathy.
http://imgur.com/BKzMc89
http://imgur.com/PMwQRdj

Oh, so, nonsense, then? I mean, I waypoint a bunch, and also appreciate the world of Tyria, so now we are 1:1 for it mattering… almost as if it’s a property of the player, not the convenience.

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Posted by: Moonyeti.3296

Moonyeti.3296

What is this? Someone realizing that they can avoid using waypoints even if they exist? Is this a dream?

It’s about how convenience creates apathy.
http://imgur.com/BKzMc89
http://imgur.com/PMwQRdj

Oh, so, nonsense, then? I mean, I waypoint a bunch, and also appreciate the world of Tyria, so now we are 1:1 for it mattering… almost as if it’s a property of the player, not the convenience.

Yeah, you can burn out on too much of either. Spend lot of time at an office job, yeah the allure of nature looks pretty good. Spend a long time out in the wilds feels good! But stay out there awhile and then wifi and civilization starts to look pretty appealing again!

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Posted by: DoctorDing.5890

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I assumed the OP was building up to making a plea for mounts!

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Posted by: Svarty.8019

Svarty.8019

I assumed the OP was building up to making a plea for mounts!

We all know it would have been the better design decision.

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Posted by: RockinTalvin.9824

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I wonder if we could get mounts…!?

No, really, those were just my impressions while playing without waypoints. Have fun clicking yor way through tyria, if thats your according to your taste.

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Posted by: Rognik.2579

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Personally, I try not to use waypoints unless I’m in a city. That’s more because I’m a cheapskate, though. However, I do try to use as few waypoints as possible to get around, and sometimes I’d run into events, or injured players, or possibly even resource nodes that I wanted to collect for whatever reason. So I, too, encourage people to try to walk places instead of just jumping to a waypoint, but unless you have poor willpower, still unlock them in case you get knocked out.

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Posted by: Paulytnz.7619

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Take it from someone who has done the world complete 9 times now – even doing this is not enough to fully explore the world. I know that should not even be said but there you have it lol. Even if you include doing all JPs and mini dungeons alongside world complete, there are still many, many, many things to find.

In fact I at one point was on a journey to do exactly that. This was before the champion boxes and trains came. Basically what I was doing was going back to every map and FULLY exploring every nook and cranny. I noted down the locations of all champions and hidden chests and even noted which champs I could solo. Needless to say that when the champion loot boxes finally came I had a slight edge here for some of the out of the way champs that no one bothered with. However the trains soon killed my fun of soloing a lot of them. And now of course the trains are gone and some of these champs are now only vets.

Alas I have gone off topic. So yes I was going back and rediscovering all the maps just because I am a true explorer. Sadly something stopped me from doing this. I don’t know what. Maybe it was that HOT came in or my love for other games (Civ5 I am looking at you) that drew me away for a bit when I got burn out. I know not what but I still do have a fair few maps to continue my FULL discovery of and noting champs etc lol. I had planned to go even further by noting all the events (yes I know I can cheat and look at the Wiki and I probably will) and also wanting to do them all at least once. Call me crazy but that’s me.

So yes OP, there is TONS to discover and it does make the world seem more alive and immersive. So all I can say is keep it up, even if you do have limited play time, do that which is the most fun for you!

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Posted by: Endless Soul.5178

Endless Soul.5178

@ OP, have you tried walking instead of running? I do that once in a while.

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Posted by: RockinTalvin.9824

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Nay… to be honest, only two weeks ago, I found out about that Walk-Run-Toggle

Never used it before.

I really do like traveling across tyria for all the reasons I told you before. BUT I’m really happy, that my main is a thief, which is quite a mobility beast. Chances are, that the whole traveling-thing is not quite as enjoyable, if you don’t have access to perma swiftness.

By the way, funny, that someone’s mentioned Breath of the Wild, which is the game I am playing right now. The experiences I found there are quite comparable to Guild Wars 2 in terms of unexpected events, quests or treasures. Not too different the both.

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Posted by: Ookamikun.6472

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I use WP if I want to get to a point immediately. If I need mats I don’t WP.

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Posted by: zealex.9410

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Just remove 90% of the waypoints (keep world boss related ones only and 1 per map at least) and give us ground mount. Immersing urself never felt so good. It would also be lore firendly say primordus is out for dem sweet ley enegies jsut like mordy was.

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Posted by: Sartharina.3542

Sartharina.3542

Just remove 90% of the waypoints (keep world boss related ones only and 1 per map at least) and give us ground mount. Immersing urself never felt so good. It would also be lore firendly say primordus is out for dem sweet ley enegies jsut like mordy was.

No. The maps don’t have enough waypoints as-is. Especially after Mordy took out so many that were in actually-functional places (Brisban no longer has a Southwestern waypoint. Timberline lost a central one)

I like being able to choose where to start my adventure from instead of having to waste time running from map entry to the far corner (And Silverwastes is in desperate need of a waypoint near the Vinewrath/Blue Oasis)

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Posted by: Behellagh.1468

Behellagh.1468

A combination of being poor when I first started this game coupled with the load time for waypointing on my system encouraged me early on to run within a map and only waypoint LONG distances (other than rezzing).

The think I missed on the HoT maps is not losing a lot of time returning to a location where I died. Very frustrating when the next waypoint is just around the bend or just over that next hill after a several minute jaunt. And that’s because I think of waypoints more like save points as I uncover the map.

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Posted by: Orion Templar.4589

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The high mobility options in Ember Bay is what makes it one of my favorite maps. Even without waypoints, you can get nearly anywhere pretty quickly with thermal propulsion or ley lines. In the original HoT maps once I memorized where the Wallows led to, it made for some good mobility. I hope the mobility trend continues. Exploring is fun, but getting quickly to the content you want to consume is good too.

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Posted by: Plautze.6290

Plautze.6290

Another walker here. If I can help it, I avoid waypointing altogether, the exception being rezzing after shameful defeat and when having something to do in HoT, but being on the other side of the world map. As I have only limited playtime per day (working sucks but it gives you shinies), I don’t want to spend it walking through all of Tyria (which I do all the time when I’m not up to something, like completing DS).

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