Guild Wars 2

Been waiting on a precursor drop for a few months now. That’s all I need for my legendary, you see. Tonight I broke 300g and decided to throw some rares and exotics into the forge, all of the same type obviously, to try and get my precursor.

I’m at 3 gold now and have nothing to show for it. This is great game design and loads of fun losing everything you’ve earned over several months with nothing to show for it.

So now I’m hearing that precursor crafting will NOT be out this year as originally intended? That’s so good to hear – I’m super excited.

When will this be a thing? Because I’m tired of being a precursor away from my legendary and having to rely on luck and RNG to get it rather than actual play time or skill to get it.

2741 hours 22 minutes played. No precursor drop.

Once upon a time in redditland. . .

Gets 2 precursors in a row. Neato. Meanwhile there are people spending 1000g+ and not getting anything lol. It’s so cool that there’s no other way of earning a precursor besides buying one or praying to the RNG Gods…

Personally I won’t be surprised if the craftable precursors are for a set of new legendaries and not the existing ones

I just bought my armor and weapon skins from the cash shop, I’m happy with them and won’t be replacing them so therefore I have won the game as there is nothing else to do. Thankyou cash shop! No I’ll patiently wait for a real MMO, ESO or EQ Next.

To be fair you only have yourselves to blame. People who have spent 1000g+ just for the chance at getting a precursor could have had their legendaries a long time ago if they had just saved up and bought the precursor. I agree that the means of acquiring precursors needs to change but you chose to gamble.

Wow cool. It’s this thread again.

Adam.4103:

To be fair you only have yourselves to blame. People who have spent 1000g+ just for the chance at getting a precursor could have had their legendaries a long time ago if they had just saved up and bought the precursor. I agree that the means of acquiring precursors needs to change but you chose to gamble.

Where do you think those precursors on the TP come from?

I used to believe that getting a precursor outside of the TP or MF was a myth. Until I dropped dawn in frostgorge.

It really is hard to feel sympathy for people who continuously throw money into the mystic toilet and then get on the forums to complain about how much money they’ve lost and have nothing to show for it.

That’s akin to people going to Vegas, blowing 10Gs and then getting upset with the casino that they have nothing to show for it (except probably being completely wasted from the free drinks).

I’ve personally spent at least 300g in the toilet as well, but I realize I did it to myself. After the first 50g you start to realize that the odds probably aren’t that great. After the first 100g you definitely start to realize that maybe spending money in the toilet was a bad idea, especially if you come to the forums and read the horror stories.
After your first 200g you lose that hope that maybe you will be that lucky guy and that the RNG really is that bad.

Anything over 200g and you should really just look in the mirror and shake your head in shame rather than post here.

If you really really want your precursor, you have a 100% guaranteed way to obtain it currently. Buy it from the TP. Yes, prices are high, yes it sucks, but it is guaranteed.

Why do you think the precursors cost more than 300g on the TP? If it costs 800g, why in the world would you think you could make one for 300g? That would be 500g instant profit for everyone.

Hint: It will almost (yes I realize your friends, brothers, cousins, dog got it on the first try 400 times in a row but that is not the typical experience) always cost you more to get a precursor in the MF than it will to just buy it on the TP. All the precursors on the TP are ones that people don’t want, i.e. they value them less than you, so they price them to sell, which will always be slightly less than the average (key word here) cost to make one.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

All the precursors on the TP are ones that people don’t want, i.e. they value them less than you, so they price them to sell, which will always be slightly less than the average (key word here) cost to make one.

Except people who get precursors they don’t want know that plenty of people really really really want them and will price them accordingly. They will price it higher than average. Unless there’s a goodguy out there who sees 675g as lowest seller and thinks to himself “nah, I don’t even want this thing, I value it far less than that, I’m putting it up for 500g”. Most people will see lowest seller, and drop the price by 1c. Never underestimate the power of gold.

If a precursor sold for substantially more than the amount of gold it takes (on average) to create via the mystic forge then people would take opportunity of the market and forge them for profit.

I think you can pretty much assume that the TP price is roughly also the price for forging (perhaps even less because some are dropped as loot).

Lord Kuru.3685:

If a precursor sold for substantially more than the amount of gold it takes (on average) to create via the mystic forge then people would take opportunity of the market and forge them for profit.

I think you can pretty much assume that the TP price is roughly also the price for forging (perhaps even less because some are dropped as loot).

I disagree. Someone that gets Dusk or Dawn after 20g in the MF would almost certainly price it high for profit. Price is dictated by the market. Whether it cost you 100g to get it or 1000g you will price it at what will sell it. If someone was honestly trying to get Dusk, for example, in order to sell it, and it cost him 1200g of GSs in the forge, he would be wasting not only his time but his deposit because no one would buy it at that price and he would have to take it down and repost it for another deposit.

TehPwnerer.7215:

Been waiting on a precursor drop for a few months now. That’s all I need for my legendary, you see. Tonight I broke 300g and decided to throw some rares and exotics into the forge, all of the same type obviously, to try and get my precursor.

I’m at 3 gold now and have nothing to show for it. This is great game design and loads of fun losing everything you’ve earned over several months with nothing to show for it.

So now I’m hearing that precursor crafting will NOT be out this year as originally intended? That’s so good to hear – I’m super excited.

When will this be a thing? Because I’m tired of being a precursor away from my legendary and having to rely on luck and RNG to get it rather than actual play time or skill to get it.

2741 hours 22 minutes played. No precursor drop.

Trusted the mystic toilet you did . Made a mistake you did . Saved your money you should have , yes?

Adine.2184:

TehPwnerer.7215:

Been waiting on a precursor drop for a few months now. That’s all I need for my legendary, you see. Tonight I broke 300g and decided to throw some rares and exotics into the forge, all of the same type obviously, to try and get my precursor.

I’m at 3 gold now and have nothing to show for it. This is great game design and loads of fun losing everything you’ve earned over several months with nothing to show for it.

So now I’m hearing that precursor crafting will NOT be out this year as originally intended? That’s so good to hear – I’m super excited.

When will this be a thing? Because I’m tired of being a precursor away from my legendary and having to rely on luck and RNG to get it rather than actual play time or skill to get it.

2741 hours 22 minutes played. No precursor drop.

Trusted the mystic toilet you did . Made a mistake you did . Saved your money you should have , yes?

Thanks for the advice Yoda.

“The Mystic Toilet is the path to the dark side. The Mystic Toilet leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”

Draknar.5748:

Except people who get precursors they don’t want know that plenty of people really really really want them and will price them accordingly. They will price it higher than average. Unless there’s a goodguy out there who sees 675g as lowest seller and thinks to himself “nah, I don’t even want this thing, I value it far less than that, I’m putting it up for 500g”. Most people will see lowest seller, and drop the price by 1c. Never underestimate the power of gold.

I’ve been that good guy three or four times. Sold it to the highest bidder… I definitely twice that I remember. I even sold one of the Dawns I pulled to a guildie that my wife made a deal with for 180g. So yeah, I’m that guy.

Dante.1508:

“The Mystic Toilet is the path to the dark side. The Mystic Toilet leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”

Suffering leads to the cash shop. Bring your credit card.

The current process to obtaining precursors is STUPID.
RNG or TP are your only means, so blind luck or grind/TP Flip.

Ignore the legendary, there is nothing legendary about it, you will be better for it.

I am the guy from this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj1ew3Jv6dE). I saved up to 2000g and decided to make proper statistics and don’t care about loosing the money. During this test I already crafted 9 Precursors. But wait!

I have over 750 tries now. each try consist of 4 Exotics worth 1g-2.3g (depending on the weapon type). That’s around 4500g! (calculated with average of 1.5g per Exotic). I sold each Precursor after I got it – as I said, I do this in an attempt to make some statistics so wen can really discuss in the future if the % is too low or ok.
That said I feel like I was a bit lucky here too. So that’s not enough data yet. The % varied from 0.4% up to 1.5% – everybody who knows math knows that’s insane. So I will produce more data, sell precrusors on the TP (maybe prices drop) and I will keep doing this until I am broke.

And my suggestion is. Don’t gamble for a precursors if you want one. The prices have been very stable now for several months and for a dedicated player it is easy to farm this money in that time.

Samuirai.4561:

And my suggestion is. Don’t gamble for a precursors if you want one. The prices have been very stable now for several months and for a dedicated player it is easy to farm this money in that time.

Pretty much this. In fact, at this point I would think the smartest thing you can do if you’re working towards a precursor is to gather the amount you are willing to pay for it and put in a buy order for that amount. Even if it’s lower than the current market value, if the prices drop you could log in one day to find the order filled. Or you could cancel that without penalty and place a higher order if you get more money. And if you haven’t gotten it yet when the alternate method of obtaining a precursor is introduced you can still cancel the order and put the money towards mats or other expenses.

You don’t have to pay the current asking price for a precursor, or outbid the buy orders to be first in line. Especially with changes coming in the next few months, the situation could change drastically at any time. You might be able to save hundreds of gold just by waiting to obtain a precursor.