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Posted by: Gwarrior.4952

Gwarrior.4952

It was more than one year ago that System Designer Lindsey Murock brought up the term: “precursor scavenger hunt”: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/crafting/Patch-fixing-precursors/first#post767166
It was more than one year ago that Game Director Colin Johanson stated that no body was actively doing that part: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Where-s-the-Scavenger-Hunt-post/first

It was excited and good to know that we are gonna get a progression system to get the precursor. Therefore, we wait and wait and wait. It must be a complicated system that takes time and patience to finish. We get it. But more than one year, still get no further info about this system.

Specificly, personaly, I got one gift of flameseeker prophecies, one gift of bolt, two gifts of Mastery and two gifts of Fortune. And now I am starting to gather more gifts for the 3rd L weapon, so for god’s sake, where is the Scavanger Hunt anyway?

I want updated info, I want a schedule, I want to know if this system has been canceled. I am upset about this. It’s not that I can’t buy precursor from TP, it’s just you gave me hope more than one year ago, I just want a good story progression for crafting a L weapon.

So plz plz tell me, where is the Precursor Scavanger Hunt?

PS: Don’t do this again to me, don’t give me hope and keep me waiting for more than one year, I can’t handle this, I am just an ordinary player.

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Posted by: Brutal Arts.6307

Brutal Arts.6307

Soon™

You have gotten what you paid for, all that remains is biweekly gemshop pushing.

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Posted by: Elbegast.6970

Elbegast.6970

I don’t understand what the big deal is with legendaries. I really don’t. Is it a status thing?

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Posted by: Zacchary.6183

Zacchary.6183

Why waste craploads of time and money on a legendary when you can make an ascended weapon that is cheaper and way easier to make?

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Posted by: bOgz.7263

bOgz.7263

I don’t understand what the big deal is with legendaries. I really don’t. Is it a status thing?

apart from the status thing, its a Dream

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

I’m not sure there will be a Precursor Scavenger Hunt, anymore. I thought it had been replaced with Precursor Crafting.

Maybe more will become clear with the Features Patch due in Spring/Early Summer.

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Posted by: tomlin.8204

tomlin.8204

I’ve always had a slight bitter taste in my mouth when it comes to Legendaries. They are definitely overrated, especially now with Ascended being on par with them, stat-wise. I think they often make people greedy and irritating, linking their progress in chats every 5 minutes because you know, everyone cares so much. It’s also boring to see every other character looking identical to the last – a Guardian with a Legendary Greatsword.

They are quite cool though, if not a tad annoying in group events. The fact you’ll never have to upgrade it if stronger weapons are released is cool (although who knows when they’ll do that again? Maybe never)

In saying this I did make Meteorlogicus recently… I’ve been playing since release and had no other use for the gold or mats I’ve saved since then. But it wasn’t all I ever thought and talked about.

“meta” this, “meta” that. Please stop saying the word “meta”.

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Posted by: Gwarrior.4952

Gwarrior.4952

For those who doesn’t pursue L weapon, obviously u don’t care.
But more hardcore players would care about it.
L weapon is nothing about the stats but the endgame skins.
I hope this topic get enough attention and hopefully get answered by a dev.
Thank you for reading! guys!

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Gwarrior.4952

I’m not sure there will be a Precursor Scavenger Hunt, anymore. I thought it had been replaced with Precursor Crafting.

Maybe more will become clear with the Features Patch due in Spring/Early Summer.

I was thinking the same thing, but if there won’t be a system like Precursor Scavenger Hunt, I want a confirm from dev so that I can stop waiting for its release and just buy precursors from TP.

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Posted by: Beorn Raukar.4328

Beorn Raukar.4328

I would assume it will come on the Feature only patch after the LS S1 ends. This is only my speculation of course.

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Posted by: Valandil Dragonhart.2371

Valandil Dragonhart.2371

Why waste craploads of time and money on a legendary when you can make an ascended weapon that is cheaper and way easier to make?

Because they’re butt-ugly. In fact just about everything ascended so far is in the same boat for looks. Transmutation is the only option there, other than not bothering.

It’s called subjectivity, ladies & gents.

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Not luck and credit cards.”

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Gwarrior.4952

I would assume it will come on the Feature only patch after the LS S1 ends. This is only my speculation of course.

I really really hope it would, but I seriously doubt that because the Precursor Scavanger Hunt and Precursor Crafting seems are 2 exclusive system. What is for sure is that we will get Precursor Crafting this year(cause it was in last year’s schedule but due to some reason they delayed the release). But “Precursor Scavanger Hunt”? I doubt we won’t get that, my speculation is that it’s canceled.

But that’s all specualtions right? So we need dev confimation.

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Posted by: tolunart.2095

tolunart.2095

I would assume it will come on the Feature only patch after the LS S1 ends. This is only my speculation of course.

I really really hope it would, but I seriously doubt that because the Precursor Scavanger Hunt and Precursor Crafting seems are 2 exclusive system. What is for sure is that we will get Precursor Crafting this year(cause it was in last year’s schedule but due to some reason they delayed the release). But “Precursor Scavanger Hunt”? I doubt we won’t get that, my speculation is that it’s canceled.

But that’s all specualtions right? So we need dev confimation.

They are the same thing. The “scavenger hunt” was just an idea being tossed around among the devs, which became a method to create/craft/acquire a precursor that hasn’t been officially nailed down yet. It has been in development but because it is such a high profile item, a new path to a precursor/Legendary weapon has to be handled very carefully so as not to invalidate the efforts players have already made, investments in precursors and related materials, etc.

As far as I can tell, the new method will not be significantly cheaper or easier than current methods (random drop, mystic forge, direct purchase) but will be less reliant on random chance for those who dislike the current methods. So if you are expecting it to be easy and/or cheap, you will most likely be disappointed.

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Posted by: Gwarrior.4952

Gwarrior.4952

I would assume it will come on the Feature only patch after the LS S1 ends. This is only my speculation of course.

I really really hope it would, but I seriously doubt that because the Precursor Scavanger Hunt and Precursor Crafting seems are 2 exclusive system. What is for sure is that we will get Precursor Crafting this year(cause it was in last year’s schedule but due to some reason they delayed the release). But “Precursor Scavanger Hunt”? I doubt we won’t get that, my speculation is that it’s canceled.

But that’s all specualtions right? So we need dev confimation.

They are the same thing. The “scavenger hunt” was just an idea being tossed around among the devs, which became a method to create/craft/acquire a precursor that hasn’t been officially nailed down yet. It has been in development but because it is such a high profile item, a new path to a precursor/Legendary weapon has to be handled very carefully so as not to invalidate the efforts players have already made, investments in precursors and related materials, etc.

As far as I can tell, the new method will not be significantly cheaper or easier than current methods (random drop, mystic forge, direct purchase) but will be less reliant on random chance for those who dislike the current methods. So if you are expecting it to be easy and/or cheap, you will most likely be disappointed.

I would be disappointed if there would be just a crafting recipe not a story progression about it, especially in such a long run.
But it’s fine, cause finally we would get at least one more way no matter better or worse.

More importantly, I am already disappointed cause it has been more than one year since the concept of “Precursor Scavanger Hunt” first introduced, I remember every word Lindsey Murdock said about how busy they are or how complicated the system is, so I was being patient since 2012. Guess what? it’s 2014 now and there are still no updated info about it!

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

Lord Kuru.3685

As usual, Anet likes to talk up their game but rarely delivers. The scavenger hunt seems to have been discarded and replaced with precursor crafting. Perhaps they couldn’t introduce enough grind into the scavenger hunt idea? Crafting, on the other hand, can easily be made ultra-grindy.

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Posted by: Zacchary.6183

Zacchary.6183

Why waste craploads of time and money on a legendary when you can make an ascended weapon that is cheaper and way easier to make?

Because they’re butt-ugly. In fact just about everything ascended so far is in the same boat for looks. Transmutation is the only option there, other than not bothering.

It’s called subjectivity, ladies & gents.

Still less of a hassle.

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Posted by: tolunart.2095

tolunart.2095

Guess what? it’s 2014 now and there are still no updated info about it!

Updated in July when they posted info about their plans for the second half of 2013, and again when they said that it was likely to be pushed to 2014. What do you want, a seat on the Board of Directors?

Regardless of when or what they announce, a certain portion of the playerbase is going to erupt in flames when they make any official statement about it. I can understand why they want to get everything right before giving any specific info about it.

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Posted by: Kimhyuna.1035

Kimhyuna.1035

I don’t understand what the big deal is with legendaries. I really don’t. Is it a status thing?

For some people, its the only thing left to grind for.
You dont like them? Move on.

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Posted by: Kronos.3695

Kronos.3695

Well, I don’t think we’ll see any Precursor Crafting till the end of the Living Season (or whatever it is), and if we won’t see anything right there, i guess we won’t ever see it.

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Posted by: MrRuin.9740

MrRuin.9740

Why waste craploads of time and money on a legendary when you can make an ascended weapon that is cheaper and way easier to make?

Many reasons.
Ascended is build-locking. Whatever stats you choose, you better like it and hope they don’t nerf your build or else you’re SoL. Legendary allows you to change stats as you change builds or as they modify them in patches.
Ascended is not future-proof. Noone can say right now with any degree of certainty that there will never be more tiers of gear added. If there is, guess what? Your Ascended just became second-best. Legendary bumps up.
Ascended is the easy route. Some people don’t like to settle for the easy path.
Ascended is ugly. While some Legendary don’t appeal to all, they are eye candy.

These reasons may not appeal to you, but there’s many reasons that someone may not choose the easy path like you deem to be the only valid one.

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Vol.7601

You know, posting the same thing everyweek isn’t going to accelerate anything. It’s just spam.

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eleshazar.6902

You know, posting the same thing everyweek isn’t going to accelerate anything. It’s just spam.

Well if the devs would take two seconds out of their day to just say “It is coming in summer, or it is coming next year, or it is never coming” People would stop making these threads. If they don’t respond there are just going to be more and more threads of this nature.

I feel their pain, I’ve had my 3 gifts and have been waiting on a precursor for the last 5 months. I’m up to 725g now, and I’m dead tired of grinding for more to afford dusk. It seriously has me hating the game now. And after I get my legendary (more of a stubbornness thing at this point since I’m determined to finish what I started) I’m seriously considering switching to another game. There are some other gard hitting mmos coming out, and ArenaNet has done nothing but disappoint with their recent moves with this game. So sad to think that these are the same people that created the awesome guild wars 1. Well I guess there is a reason that GW1 is ranked higher on most MMO lists than GW2…..

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tolunart.2095

You know, posting the same thing everyweek isn’t going to accelerate anything. It’s just spam.

Well if the devs would take two seconds out of their day to just say “It is coming in summer, or it is coming next year, or it is never coming” People would stop making these threads. If they don’t respond there are just going to be more and more threads of this nature.

No, they won’t stop.

“But I want it naaaaoooow…”

“How dare you delay/cancel this, I’ve been waiting forever!”

etc.

The vaguest statement by the devs is considered to be a binding contract – the “scavenger hunt” was never promised, just a vague idea someone mentioned – and failure to provide it within the poster’s idea of a reasonable time is met with accusations, complaints and general kittening.

No statements from the devs gets pretty much the same reaction, but it doesn’t make them look bad when things get pushed back or canceled because they never promised it in the first place.

They’ve learned from their past mistakes and are much more careful about what they say. Mostly… even though the CDI threads point out that the plans discussed are going to take many months and may never come to anything at all, you’ll see dozens of “you promised X in the CDI thread, where is it?” complaints in the coming months.

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Gwarrior.4952

You know, posting the same thing everyweek isn’t going to accelerate anything. It’s just spam.

Well if the devs would take two seconds out of their day to just say “It is coming in summer, or it is coming next year, or it is never coming” People would stop making these threads. If they don’t respond there are just going to be more and more threads of this nature.

No, they won’t stop.

“But I want it naaaaoooow…”

“How dare you delay/cancel this, I’ve been waiting forever!”

etc.

The vaguest statement by the devs is considered to be a binding contract – the “scavenger hunt” was never promised, just a vague idea someone mentioned – and failure to provide it within the poster’s idea of a reasonable time is met with accusations, complaints and general kittening.

No statements from the devs gets pretty much the same reaction, but it doesn’t make them look bad when things get pushed back or canceled because they never promised it in the first place.

They’ve learned from their past mistakes and are much more careful about what they say. Mostly… even though the CDI threads point out that the plans discussed are going to take many months and may never come to anything at all, you’ll see dozens of “you promised X in the CDI thread, where is it?” complaints in the coming months.

Maybe you should take a second look about what’s going on here, people are asking for development status update, not for finishing it immediately.
If someone promised you something you really want more than one year ago, yet within time passing you must be curious how this thing is going on, is it really gonna happen, cause if not, you have the right to know and stop waiting unless you are not interested in such thing anymore.
Let’s say you are not interested in such a Scavanger Hunt, but it doesn’t mean people should stop talking about things you don’t care.

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Posted by: tolunart.2095

tolunart.2095

Maybe you should take a second look about what’s going on here, people are asking for development status update, not for finishing it immediately.

You’ve had two status updates in the last six months. Creating pointless threads whining about it isn’t going to make it happen any faster. It’s like taking a child on a long car ride, saying “are we there yet” every five minutes isn’t going to make the trip any shorter.

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Gwarrior.4952

You know, posting the same thing everyweek isn’t going to accelerate anything. It’s just spam.

Well if the devs would take two seconds out of their day to just say “It is coming in summer, or it is coming next year, or it is never coming” People would stop making these threads. If they don’t respond there are just going to be more and more threads of this nature.

I feel their pain, I’ve had my 3 gifts and have been waiting on a precursor for the last 5 months. I’m up to 725g now, and I’m dead tired of grinding for more to afford dusk. It seriously has me hating the game now. And after I get my legendary (more of a stubbornness thing at this point since I’m determined to finish what I started) I’m seriously considering switching to another game. There are some other gard hitting mmos coming out, and ArenaNet has done nothing but disappoint with their recent moves with this game. So sad to think that these are the same people that created the awesome guild wars 1. Well I guess there is a reason that GW1 is ranked higher on most MMO lists than GW2…..

I can’t agree more, Anet really should take more serious about their hardcore player database. We are hanging here because we have the faith in Anet’s dev ability, but this faith has been consumed for too long. It’s been one year and a half since release, I don’t think Anet think PVE endgame is one of the major problems of GW2.

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Posted by: DanteZero.9736

DanteZero.9736

I highly doubt we’re getting a scavenger hunt since people will follow the path of least resistance and look it up on Dulfy.

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Posted by: tolunart.2095

tolunart.2095

I highly doubt we’re getting a scavenger hunt since people will follow the path of least resistance and look it up on Dulfy.

And the rest of the process, collecting mats, dungeon tokens, 100% exploration, already is a scavenger hunt of sorts. They might as well replace the Gift of Exploration with two Precursor Claim Tickets. Which was probably the first thing brought up during initial discussions about the proposal.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

I don’t remember them ever promising a Scavenger Hunt. Only that it had come up in a discussion, and only one person was sort of working on it on their off-time. And that they had no plans to implement it any time soon…if ever.

Then, they talked about Precursor Crafting, which was much more likely to be implemented, and was moved to this year.

I think you can probably let the whole Scavenger Hunt for Precursors go.

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Posted by: tolunart.2095

tolunart.2095

The Internet is not like the real world. Here, a promise is defined as “the hint of a thought about a possibility.”

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

Ahh…my bad.

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Posted by: Gwarrior.4952

Gwarrior.4952

Maybe you should take a second look about what’s going on here, people are asking for development status update, not for finishing it immediately.

You’ve had two status updates in the last six months. Creating pointless threads whining about it isn’t going to make it happen any faster. It’s like taking a child on a long car ride, saying “are we there yet” every five minutes isn’t going to make the trip any shorter.

You still didn’t get the point, telling you “you rn’t gonna get it this year” at the end of year is not an update but an admit to the failure and also a promise to the future, it’s totally ok if anything changes, what’s not ok is keeping promising the future but nothing in reality has been seen or explained in details for over a year. It’s like taking a boyfriend who promises marriage but keep saying we will do it next year every year. Who doesn’t wanna break up with you?

So the point here is you don’t care about the system and we really care, you want us to stop talking about it and I am telling you it’s not gonna happen cause when you care about something you don’t want people tell you to shut up. Still, you r welcomed to talk about the details about this system if you have tiny little interest in it.

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Posted by: tolunart.2095

tolunart.2095

It’s okay, I’ve been around a lot longer than you have, and over the years I’ve learned that things happen when they happen. The devs are not going to work according to your schedule, no matter how many threads are posted about it.

There are good reasons not to discuss the details, one that comes to mind is the precursor secondary market on the TP. If they announce the new process will be live within three months the market will crash because everyone who wants to create a Legendary will just wait for it. If they announce it won’t be here within the next six months the prices will skyrocket because anyone who is the least bit impatient will try to get his precursor now rather than wait another six months. So they have to keep quiet about it until it’s ready to go live in a month or less.

Final answer: you are not going to get an answer from the devs, no matter how many times you post a new thread asking the question.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

Gee, I thought they only introduced the notion of Precursor Crafting in the second half on 2013. Not over a year ago. Crafting and Scavenger Hunt are two separate ideas. If you mean to say that the Devs have been discussing optional ways to obtain Precursors, then we have had updates about that. In fact, there were discussions about it in the recent CDIs, as well. =)

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Gwarrior.4952

Gee, I thought they only introduced the notion of Precursor Crafting in the second half on 2013. Not over a year ago. Crafting and Scavenger Hunt are two separate ideas. If you mean to say that the Devs have been discussing optional ways to obtain Precursors, then we have had updates about that. In fact, there were discussions about it in the recent CDIs, as well. =)

That’s the point, I thought Precursor Crafting and Scavanger Hunt are 2 Exclusive Systems, but some of the players seems to consider that they are the same thing. Well it is possible both that either they are using the Precursor Crafting to express the Scavanger Hunt idea or they want firstly introduce Precursor Crafting then Scavanger Hunt system.
I think it’s the confusing part, this is gonna really need a dev to clarify what on earth they were planning to do.

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Posted by: tolunart.2095

tolunart.2095

I’ve tried to explain it, but you don’t want to hear it.

The “scavenger hunt” was an idea mentioned around a year ago as something they might put into the game at some point. It became a method of obtaining a precursor, probably through crafting, around the time that ascended gear crafting was announced. It got pushed back from late 2013 to sometime this year.

There will be no “scavenger hunt” nor was there ever an official announcement of it happening. We still don’t have a specific method announced, but it will probably involve the materials used in crafting ascended gear, and may use ascended-level precursors, if not entirely new Legendary weapons.

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Posted by: Gwarrior.4952

Gwarrior.4952

I’ve tried to explain it, but you don’t want to hear it.

The “scavenger hunt” was an idea mentioned around a year ago as something they might put into the game at some point. It became a method of obtaining a precursor, probably through crafting, around the time that ascended gear crafting was announced. It got pushed back from late 2013 to sometime this year.

There will be no “scavenger hunt” nor was there ever an official announcement of it happening. We still don’t have a specific method announced, but it will probably involve the materials used in crafting ascended gear, and may use ascended-level precursors, if not entirely new Legendary weapons.

Trust me, I read your reply, it does make sense, but it seems proofless. No Dev ever said they are extactly the same thing.

I understand it was your feeling or speculation after reading materials such as blogs, devs streams, but still that’s the way you see this thing. Due to lack of proofs, other people doesn’t see this thing this way or they remain their reasonable doubt like me.

I am glad you shared your view about “Scavanger Hunt” and/or “Precursor Crafting”, but don’t you think this question needs to be answered by a dev to clarify?

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Posted by: tolunart.2095

tolunart.2095

You’re not going to get any other answer.

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Posted by: Gwarrior.4952

Gwarrior.4952

You’re not going to get any other answer.

Still, I am glad u shared your view, and I hope more people would share their views in this thread. Thx for the discussion!

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