Guild Wars 2

Just saw the new update on legendaries…and I just wanted to make sure I read that correctly…we will have to play WvW to complete our legendary item? This is so dumb!

Or buy the necessary materials off the TP. Whichever tickles your fancy.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Or buy the necessary materials off the TP. Whichever tickles your fancy.

My understanding is that gifts were not going to be tradeable because they didn’t want people to “buy” legendaries anymore.

Here’s a passage from the News Blog:

…the Gift of Glory, purchased with the new tradable material Shards of Glory that only comes from Player vs. Player reward tracks; and the Gift of War, purchased with a new tradeable material, Memories of Battle, that only comes from playing World vs. World.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Here’s a passage from the News Blog:

…the Gift of Glory, purchased with the new tradable material Shards of Glory that only comes from Player vs. Player reward tracks; and the Gift of War, purchased with a new tradeable material, Memories of Battle, that only comes from playing World vs. World.

Gotcha. It’s still going to be harder to obtain legendary items now though. The old system is still superior to this new one.

Acewings.6872:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Here’s a passage from the News Blog:

…the Gift of Glory, purchased with the new tradable material Shards of Glory that only comes from Player vs. Player reward tracks; and the Gift of War, purchased with a new tradeable material, Memories of Battle, that only comes from playing World vs. World.

Gotcha. It’s still going to be harder to obtain legendary items now though.

Not true, now you will have a set way to get a precursor, which is the most expensive part of current legendaries (for most of them).

Acewings.6872:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Here’s a passage from the News Blog:

…the Gift of Glory, purchased with the new tradable material Shards of Glory that only comes from Player vs. Player reward tracks; and the Gift of War, purchased with a new tradeable material, Memories of Battle, that only comes from playing World vs. World.

Gotcha. It’s still going to be harder to obtain legendary items now though. The old system is still superior to this new one.

The old “legendaries” are still the same, it is just the new ones that are getting the overhaul. So you can still do the old system to obtain old ones, but if you want a new one, gotta go through the tedious new system design.

you have to WvW right now to make a legendary…Gift of Battle for 500 badges

Serophous.9085:

you have to WvW right now to make a legendary…Gift of Battle for 500 badges

Achievement point rewards say what?

I have over 3000 badges of honor, and I haven’t stepped foot in WvW since 2012.

So you have to go on a legendary journey thru the whole of the game to make a legendary weapon? And this is wrong how?

Acewings.6872:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Here’s a passage from the News Blog:

…the Gift of Glory, purchased with the new tradable material Shards of Glory that only comes from Player vs. Player reward tracks; and the Gift of War, purchased with a new tradeable material, Memories of Battle, that only comes from playing World vs. World.

Gotcha. It’s still going to be harder to obtain legendary items now though. The old system is still superior to this new one.

Incredible, all your problems were addressed but you still wanted to express displeasure at something so think ‘kitten it i’ll just complain with no foundation!’ What is happening to humanity?

Not seeing a problem with it. Broaden your horizons.

Actually OP, it’s harder for PvP players to get Legendaries. We are required to play PvE if we want to build one. No one is required to PvP to build one.

Acewings.6872:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Here’s a passage from the News Blog:

…the Gift of Glory, purchased with the new tradable material Shards of Glory that only comes from Player vs. Player reward tracks; and the Gift of War, purchased with a new tradeable material, Memories of Battle, that only comes from playing World vs. World.

Gotcha. It’s still going to be harder to obtain legendary items now though. The old system is still superior to this new one.

That’s why they are Legendary. It’s supposed to be hard.

Quarktastic.1027:

Serophous.9085:

you have to WvW right now to make a legendary…Gift of Battle for 500 badges

Achievement point rewards say what?

I have over 3000 badges of honor, and I haven’t stepped foot in WvW since 2012.

Also requires WvW rank 14.

True, can just spend laurels to advance that too. But then again, since the new item is purchasable, can skip it anyway.

Iason Evan.3806:

Actually OP, it’s harder for PvP players to get Legendaries. We are required to play PvE if we want to build one. No one is required to PvP to build one.

^ This. Most people only think about themselves without looking at the big picture.

Quarktastic.1027:

Serophous.9085:

you have to WvW right now to make a legendary…Gift of Battle for 500 badges

Achievement point rewards say what?

I have over 3000 badges of honor, and I haven’t stepped foot in WvW since 2012.

Need world rank 14+ to buy.

Khisanth.2948:

Quarktastic.1027:

Serophous.9085:

you have to WvW right now to make a legendary…Gift of Battle for 500 badges

Achievement point rewards say what?

I have over 3000 badges of honor, and I haven’t stepped foot in WvW since 2012.

Need world rank 14+ to buy.

Can buy that with laurels and badges of honor.

Acewings.6872:

Just saw the new update on legendaries…and I just wanted to make sure I read that correctly…we will have to play WvW to complete our legendary item? This is so dumb!

For current core game legendaries you need “Gift of Battle” which is from WvW badges.

Considering free accounts need to play PVE for ages to play PVP, I don’t think the whole “PVP Players need to play PVE” thing works very well anymore.

I got 300 badges of honor, and all of them required me to step into WvW, I don’t know how others got badges of honor without stepping into any PVP.

I was wondering how long it was before people started to complain they couldn’t just buy the new legendary’s.

That’s right you need items from all aspects of the game. Let’s face it its not vary legendary buy one from the TP. Having a gold dose not make you a legend, the needs you complete do.

Iyeru.5240:

Acewings.6872:

Just saw the new update on legendaries…and I just wanted to make sure I read that correctly…we will have to play WvW to complete our legendary item? This is so dumb!

For current core game legendaries you need “Gift of Battle” which is from WvW badges.

Considering free accounts need to play PVE for ages to play PVP, I don’t think the whole “PVP Players need to play PVE” thing works very well anymore.

I got 300 badges of honor, and all of them required me to step into WvW, I don’t know how others got badges of honor without stepping into any PVP.

Achievement point chest rewards reward badges of honor by the hundreds. You rank up your achievement points, (relatively easy to do in PvE) and you get badges without setting foot in PvP.

BrotherBelial.3094:

Let’s face it its not vary legendary buy one from the TP. Having a gold dose not make you a legend, the needs you complete do.

Nothing legendary about farming a ton of random materials and then making a fancy weapon at a workbench either. But apparently that is legendary status to Anet.

Let’s face it, there is nothing legendary about the “legendaries” in this game. There is no story behind them (no legend to tell) or any of that. I mean it’s right there in the name, Legend. There is no legend at all to these weapons. They are just fancy skins that require a lot of grinding and farming and tons of gold. That’s not legendary at all. That’s just an expensive skin with flashy effects.

The only weapon that can even be considered somewhat “legendary” is The Flameseeker Prophecies. At least that has some lore behind it, but it is still just an expensive workbench created flashy skin.

So until we actually get some true Legendary weapons, let people buy these flashy skins with some gold. Because that’s all they are. Just flashy skins.

SpyderArachnid.5619:

BrotherBelial.3094:

Let’s face it its not vary legendary buy one from the TP. Having a gold dose not make you a legend, the needs you complete do.

Nothing legendary about farming a ton of random materials and then making a fancy weapon at a workbench either. But apparently that is legendary status to Anet.

Let’s face it, there is nothing legendary about the “legendaries” in this game. There is no story behind them (no legend to tell) or any of that. I mean it’s right there in the name, Legend. There is no legend at all to these weapons. They are just fancy skins that require a lot of grinding and farming and tons of gold. That’s not legendary at all. That’s just an expensive skin with flashy effects.

The only weapon that can even be considered somewhat “legendary” is The Flameseeker Prophecies. At least that has some lore behind it, but it is still just an expensive workbench created flashy skin.

So until we actually get some true Legendary weapons, let people buy these flashy skins with some gold. Because that’s all they are. Just flashy skins.

Except that the new legendaries do seem to have stories behind them and quests that pertain to those stories.

SpyderArachnid.5619:

BrotherBelial.3094:

Let’s face it its not vary legendary buy one from the TP. Having a gold dose not make you a legend, the needs you complete do.

Nothing legendary about farming a ton of random materials and then making a fancy weapon at a workbench either. But apparently that is legendary status to Anet.

Let’s face it, there is nothing legendary about the “legendaries” in this game. There is no story behind them (no legend to tell) or any of that. I mean it’s right there in the name, Legend. There is no legend at all to these weapons. They are just fancy skins that require a lot of grinding and farming and tons of gold. That’s not legendary at all. That’s just an expensive skin with flashy effects.

The only weapon that can even be considered somewhat “legendary” is The Flameseeker Prophecies. At least that has some lore behind it, but it is still just an expensive workbench created flashy skin.

So until we actually get some true Legendary weapons, let people buy these flashy skins with some gold. Because that’s all they are. Just flashy skins.

I agree that under the current system legendaries don’t have a tale to tell. They’re equally as “legendary” as other skins on the TP that have similar price tags (imo).

However, the scavenger hunt they’re bringing in with HoT will make legendaries much more meaningful. I wish this systsem existed at GW2’s launch, but the tech (behind collection achievements) didn’t exist back then, so I think they did pretty well with what was available to make crafting a legendary expensive and require a few different game modes.

Vayne.8563:

Except that the new legendaries do seem to have stories behind them and quests that pertain to those stories.

I don’t see anywhere in there where it says we are getting quests to find these new “legendary” weapons.

It is still the same thing as before, except more work is all. Instead of buying or finding a precursor, we have to craft it. Which takes as long as regular “legendary” does now. And we need new gifts, can’t use old ones, which require mastering all the different masteries, exploring all the maguuma, and needing a lot of the new map currencies. Then of course the new gifts from Fractals and WvW that will be needed.

And then to top that all off, the final gift we’ll need requires all that time we spent getting the other gifts, combined.

There is nothing in there about a quest system or how these weapons will tie into the lore at all. Just more of the same thing as before, but more work involved in making them than before.

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Vayne.8563:

Except that the new legendaries do seem to have stories behind them and quests that pertain to those stories.

I don’t see anywhere in there where it says we are getting quests to find these new “legendary” weapons.

It is still the same thing as before, except more work is all. Instead of buying or finding a precursor, we have to craft it. Which takes as long as regular “legendary” does now. And we need new gifts, can’t use old ones, which require mastering all the different masteries, exploring all the maguuma, and needing a lot of the new map currencies. Then of course the new gifts from Fractals and WvW that will be needed.

And then to top that all off, the final gift we’ll need requires all that time we spent getting the other gifts, combined.

There is nothing in there about a quest system or how these weapons will tie into the lore at all. Just more of the same thing as before, but more work involved in making them than before.

If you haven’t already, read this blog post and vlog: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/a-legendary-journey/
http://dulfy.net/2015/09/26/gw2-twitchcon-legendary-journey-in-hot/

The “precursor crafting” (or “scavenger hunt”) is a mixture of questing and crafting in order to obtain a precursor.

It’s a form of traditional quest, by any standards. You go to an NPC, buy an item that unlocks the collection achievement for the precursor, and then you have to complete tasks and quests. Completing the achievement gives you the “alpha version” of the precursor which you then further develop in following (similar) collection achievements.

The precursor for The Juggernaut, for instance, requires you to use the /kneel or /ponder emote at huge statues across Tyria (including dungeons and fractals it seems), and then require you to capture ooze essences and grow a pet chromatic ooze. This captures a couple of characteristics of the legendary: the first being that it’s based off of the giant Atlas (who carries the world in Greek Mythology) and the second being that the hammer makes the wielder chrome coloured.

So the quests are there to make the legendaries fit in better with the lore and also to provide meaningful quests to obtain them, which require proving that you have shown skill, dedication or interest in particular aspects of the game (e.g. fractals, world completion).

I’d imagine that the raven staff “Nevermore” will require tasks based on birds (e.g. doing the Shaman’s Rookery JP, visiting or interacting with NPCs at Raven Lodge in Hoelbrak) and perhaps something knowledge/wit/problem solving-based like doing some of the puzzles in game (such as the Tears of Itlaocol mini dungeon).

Acewings.6872:

Just saw the new update on legendaries…and I just wanted to make sure I read that correctly…we will have to play WvW to complete our legendary item? This is so dumb!

Why?
You make the conclusion, but you don’t actually say why.

Do keep in mind, PvE is required, too. Is that also “so dumb”?