Guild Wars 2

Reread the meaning of that word again please.

You do not know what it means from you statement above.
At any rate I get you do not approve of rangers. Your opinion. I get it.

But that is all it is. Your opinion. Have a great day.

Aeonblade.8709:

Gbok.1039:

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IndigoSundown.5419:

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Laurelinde.4395:

Confirmation bias is confirmation bias. Getting reeeeally tired of it.

I’m confused, what does this have to do with this thread? Pardon my ignorance in advance.

As applied to the subject of the thread, confirmation bias would mean that people perceive rangers as causing the problem because they are predisposed to blame issues on rangers. If one expects something to be the cause, it’s pretty easy to find “evidence” that that is so, and to ignore evidence to the contrary.

I know what confirmation bias is, I just don’t see how it applies to this thread. Regardless of what people think, Ranger is a broken class right now. Plain and simple. Every measurable metric in game reflects this. I would love for Ranger to be viable again, as indicated in my signature, nothing would make me happier class wise honestly. That being said, all you do is cripple yourself by playing one right now when nearly every other class does the same job except better.

vi·a·ble

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adjective

adjective: viable

1.

capable of working successfully; feasible.
“the proposed investment was economically viable”

synonyms: feasible, workable, practicable, practical, usable, possible, realistic, achievable, attainable, realizable; More

Rangers are viable in every aspect of this game.

Are they the top class or the most efficient class in some situations? No.
But they are viable. There is not one part of this game that a ranger that knows how to play the class will fail at.

And even when rangers are underperforming where time matters, (and this is only about how much time something in game may take), it is a very small amount of time and really makes no difference unless you are doing speed runs for the most possible gain per hour.

If there is truly some other issue that I have missed here please point it out because I have certainly not seen it in game.

Then you just haven’t played with Rangers much versus other classes that outperform them. Nothing else to say really.

So even after I provide you with the meaning of the word you still choose to be ignorant.

Well no surprise I guess. People just really are sad.

I have an 80 necro, 80 guardian, 80 thief, 70 warrior and working on a new Ele.
Again, the ranger class might not be the most efficient class for some areas of the game but they are more than viable.

If you still refuse to see that then you are correct. There is nothing left to discuss.

Give me your figures on dungeon runs with and without a ranger in the group. One that knows how to play. What is the time difference in your runs with them?
Give me more proof than “I say it is bad so it is” and I will agree with you.

Until then I will stand by my statement above.

I don’t care about dungeon runs or PvE, I play for WvW. I don’t care about definitions, I care about the truth, and the truth is Rangers are not best at anything and can be replaced by other classes that do better.

Posting definitions to words everyone already knows doesn’t make you sound smart by the way. It just makes your argument look weak and make it look like you are reaching for any reason whatsoever to back up your argument without facts beyond a definition that has nothing to do with the fact that other classes do what Ranger does only better. Call me ignorant all you want, it won’t change the opinion of the majority of the player base that Ranger is less than useful in nearly every situation.

Please look at your statement…. You don’t care about PVE and for that matter PVP and only WvW…. So please stop saying that the majority of the player base feels that ranger is less than useful in nearly every situation. Please explain in what way is it less than useful in WvW. You are by your own words simply the one that is REACHING. I have had Rangers in every facet of this game and if the player has skill they have not been a liability at all and have been a benefit. I apologize if you feel that in some certain WvW aspect they are not useful but the reality is that many classes have those same issues in WvW.

Rangers are viable in so many aspects of this game. I fail to see what proof besides general whines without specific information to bring any evidence to your issue.

Phoenixlin.8624:

A waste of wall of text.

Rangers with pets are bad for lane 2’s boss, there is no exception. Elementalists with an elemental also bad for this lane; but still elementalists > rangers ^^

I kick kitten in lane 2—-severed it so many times it’s ridiculous. Most Ranger haters just do—they are the George Wallaces’ of the game.

Baddies are just trying to find a scapegoat for their own failure. I simply can’t believe that there are still people out there who claim ranger have no place in organized gaming.
Too bad living world forces you to play with all the narrow minded people out there, because i actually found the marionette really fun to play.

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3) Attack animations. I’m looking at you sword auto attack chain. Well this has been acknowledged and hopefully we will see some resolve which’ll increase ranger viability.

I don’t really mind the rooting on the sword, but my problem is that hornet sting has a pause like moment before it activates. When I go through Sorrow’s Embrace pt 1 when I fight the final boss what always gets me downed is because hornet sting does not immediately activate.

I just want to give some practical advice for lane 2 fighting in the marionette event – the more systemic problems with ranger have been hashed out above.

1) If you don’t have to be in that lane, then don’t. It’s not impossible but it doesn’t work towards our strengths.BUT if you do find yourself in lane 2…
2) Make sure your pet is on passive
3) Use the jaguar. It’s a low toughness pet and is less likely to draw agro
4) On the rare occasion that the boss does aggro on the pet, untarget the champ and use stalk. The champ should then turn his attention elsewhere. Call your pet to you just to be sure he doesn’t start misbehaving.

I like to play Lane 2 on my Ranger just to show people how it can be done well.

The moment my pet takes aggro, sidestep behind a line of mines, then F3. Pet winds up kiting the boss into its own mines better than most people do.

Problem with rangers is there is not much forgivness in the class. If you are a noob and play a ranger you will be 10 times more nooby than a noob on a warrior for instance.

I hate Rangers so much…

So many bear-bow signet rangers, and I hate other party members for not agreeing to autokick on sight.