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Because Im already sick of seeing people who whine and complain in the game about it, Ill clarify some stuff here.
Laurels-
Will be awarded in the DAILY LOGIN CHEST which resets everyday at the daily reset time. Not every login chest has laurels, but each one that does has an increasing amount. There are also more rewards that are also awarded in the daily loging chests. The login rewards rotate on a 28 day cycle.
Achievement Points-
Achievements are now split by content type each having 4 tied to it, meaning PvE, WvW, PvP each have 4 achieves for a total of 12achievements per day.
Now you only need to do 3 total achieves, in any combo, say 1 pve, 2 wvw, to get a flat 10ap, so now you no longer have to ap farm the dailies by doing 10 different ones, just do any 3achieves and you get 10ap.
Monthly-
Will be retired at the end of this month. There is currently a bug preventing players from completing monthlies that were uncompleted before the change, they have stated that it wont be fixed for technical reasons, and will not be extended.
Rewards-
Each daily has its own reward tied to it, instead of the old system where it only rewarded 1ap each. Each daily when completed rewards a chest that reflects the content it required partaking in. You are also not limited to any number of dailies or chests, you can do all of them and recieve chests for each daily.
There you have it very simple isnt it? More rewards, more ap, less work, stop complaining.
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From another thread but seems fitting.
Thank you. That’s what I had read in the blog post and seen.
So the only incentive to do the daily is for the 10 AP. You only have to do 3 daily achievements now to get 10 AP compared to before where you had to do 10. I can tell you from experience that getting all of the daily achievements before the update took between 30-60 minutes depending on your luck with a few.
It seems like all players benefit from this. If they want AP, they can do the daily achievements and get 10 AP from doing only 3 of the daily achievements across the three format types. Seems like a pretty great deal. You also get various rewards specifically for doing each daily achievement which we didn’t get before. On top of this, many of the existing daily achievements were shortened such as gatherer allowing for them to be completed quicker than before.
Laurels are now rewards through the login reward system by simply logging in. Unlike before where you had to do 5 achievements, you can simply spend under a minute of your day just logging in just to get credit. If you don’t care for AP, you no longer have to bother doing the daily achievements. Over the course of the month, you get 29 laurels and various other rewards. At the end of the month, you get a choice of rewards where laurels is an option. Very nice! If you can’t login at all for a period? No worries! Your progress is saved.
I think the problem is I can’t even see the new system.
I’m still under the old system since I login at sometime yesterday?
2 more hours. hope I can see the new system at reset.
I think the problem is I can’t even see the new system.
I’m still under the old system since I login at sometime yesterday?
Yeah. It seems those of us who had logged in since reset yesterday have to wait until today’s reset. Or are you talking about the new interface?
Achievement Points-
Now you only need to do 3, any 3 dailies to get a flat 10ap
I’m not clear on if that’s any three from one category, or any three taken from all of them? Can I get it with two PvE and one PvP?
That’s my big question at the moment, because I forgot to try it to check, and did the three easy PvE ones right away.
I think the problem is I can’t even see the new system.
I’m still under the old system since I login at sometime yesterday?
Yeah. It seems those of us who had logged in since reset yesterday have to wait until today’s reset. Or are you talking about the new interface?
I can do daily(pve,spvp,wvw) after the patch, I just can’t see the interface.
For the log in daily, I can’t get to the interface so I suppose I can’t get the rewards.
Hopefully reset time, everything will be clear.
The pictures in that post, havent been implemented as far as I know, maybe with the daily reset, but hopefully the rest of the post can help ppl understand the new system a little better.
Achievement Points-
Now you only need to do 3, any 3 dailies to get a flat 10apI’m not clear on if that’s any three from one category, or any three taken from all of them? Can I get it with two PvE and one PvP?
That’s my big question at the moment, because I forgot to try it to check, and did the three easy PvE ones right away.
There are 4 dailies For each gamemode: Pve, WvW, PvP for total of 12achievements, you can do any combination to complete 3 of them for the 10 ap, if you want you can do every daily for extra chest rewards. I will add this to my original post.
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Achievement Points-
Now you only need to do 3, any 3 dailies to get a flat 10apI’m not clear on if that’s any three from one category, or any three taken from all of them? Can I get it with two PvE and one PvP?
That’s my big question at the moment, because I forgot to try it to check, and did the three easy PvE ones right away.
There are 4 dailies For Pve, WvW, PvP you can do any of them for the 10 ap, if you want you can do every daily for extra chest rewards, you can do any combo of achieves. I will add this to my original post.
Thank you. Now, I just need to see a better sample of what kinds of tasks we’ll get for our dailies, and then I’ll be able to decide if I really like this or not. So far, I’m liking it.
yea they seem pretty simple and easy so far, and happy to help
Achievement Points-
Now you only need to do 3, any 3 dailies to get a flat 10apI’m not clear on if that’s any three from one category, or any three taken from all of them? Can I get it with two PvE and one PvP?
That’s my big question at the moment, because I forgot to try it to check, and did the three easy PvE ones right away.
There are 4 dailies For Pve, WvW, PvP you can do any of them for the 10 ap, if you want you can do every daily for extra chest rewards, you can do any combo of achieves. I will add this to my original post.
Thank you. Now, I just need to see a better sample of what kinds of tasks we’ll get for our dailies, and then I’ll be able to decide if I really like this or not. So far, I’m liking it.
If I remember correctly, today’s dailies are:
PVE:
-Use the Mystic Forge one time
-Do 4 events in Queensdale
-Harvest 4 plants in Maguma
-Defeat the Great Jungle Worm
PVP:
-Play 1 match as a thief
-Play 1 match as an Engi
-Conquer one Point
-Defend one Point
WVW:
-Conquer a fortress
-Conquer a camp
-Conquer one of these areas defended by one guard
-Conquer one ruin
Any three of these count towards the 10AP daily.
Achievement Points-
Now you only need to do 3, any 3 dailies to get a flat 10apI’m not clear on if that’s any three from one category, or any three taken from all of them? Can I get it with two PvE and one PvP?
That’s my big question at the moment, because I forgot to try it to check, and did the three easy PvE ones right away.
There are 4 dailies For Pve, WvW, PvP you can do any of them for the 10 ap, if you want you can do every daily for extra chest rewards, you can do any combo of achieves. I will add this to my original post.
Thank you. Now, I just need to see a better sample of what kinds of tasks we’ll get for our dailies, and then I’ll be able to decide if I really like this or not. So far, I’m liking it.
If I remember correctly, today’s dailies are:
PVE:
-Use the Mystic Forge one time
-Do 4 events in Queensdale
-Harvest 4 plants in Maguma
-Defeat the Great Jungle WormPVP:
-Play 1 match as a thief
-Play 1 match as an Engi
-Conquer one Point
-Defend one PointWVW:
-Conquer a fortress
-Conquer a camp
-Conquer one of these areas defended by one guard
-Conquer one ruinAny three of these count towards the 10AP daily.
PvP is win as those classes, not play. Just to clarify.
Has anyone figured out if the laurel/mystic coin situation is consistent with the previous rewards? Aside from this, my take on the system is largely positive, for how I play. Got my daily done for the first time in a week today, and the reward chests are nifty.
Achievement Points-
Now you only need to do 3, any 3 dailies to get a flat 10apI’m not clear on if that’s any three from one category, or any three taken from all of them? Can I get it with two PvE and one PvP?
That’s my big question at the moment, because I forgot to try it to check, and did the three easy PvE ones right away.
There are 4 dailies For Pve, WvW, PvP you can do any of them for the 10 ap, if you want you can do every daily for extra chest rewards, you can do any combo of achieves. I will add this to my original post.
Thank you. Now, I just need to see a better sample of what kinds of tasks we’ll get for our dailies, and then I’ll be able to decide if I really like this or not. So far, I’m liking it.
If I remember correctly, today’s dailies are:
PVE:
-Use the Mystic Forge one time
-Do 4 events in Queensdale
-Harvest 4 plants in Maguma
-Defeat the Great Jungle WormPVP:
-Play 1 match as a thief
-Play 1 match as an Engi
-Conquer one Point
-Defend one PointWVW:
-Conquer a fortress
-Conquer a camp
-Conquer one of these areas defended by one guard
-Conquer one ruinAny three of these count towards the 10AP daily.
PvP is win as those classes, not play. Just to clarify.
Has anyone figured out if the laurel/mystic coin situation is consistent with the previous rewards? Aside from this, my take on the system is largely positive, for how I play. Got my daily done for the first time in a week today, and the reward chests are nifty.
You get 29 laurels through the login rewards system and however many the laurel chest upon completion of 28 days gives.
I got a mystic coin from the forge daily, if I recall, the laurels will be awarded through the daily login rewards. So not sure about daily mystic coins yet.
You get 29 laurels through the login rewards system and however many the laurel chest upon completion of 28 days gives.
You actually get 35 not 29.
Depending on how often you play, you’re probably going to get more laurels and luck, but it doesn’t look good for mystic coins though. TP value of them ought to increase.
Just completed daily in less then 5min. As i Always wvw i went to cap a sentry camp and ruin = job done. Now ill wait till next reset to get my laurel.
You get 29 laurels through the login rewards system and however many the laurel chest upon completion of 28 days gives.
You actually get 35 not 29.
Depending on how often you play, you’re probably going to get more laurels and luck, but it doesn’t look good for mystic coins though. TP value of them ought to increase.
Ah. I went off the daily rewards table so I guess I missed one. Looks like it was updated since I first saw it.
Anyway, I want to add the link to the daily rewards table as well as Kaz’s thread about the laurel calculations.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Login_rewards
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Maths-Will-you-lose-laurels-this-next-year
PvP is win as those classes, not play. Just to clarify.
Thank goodness. Can you imagine if it were just play one match ?
PvP is win as those classes, not play. Just to clarify.
Thank goodness. Can you imagine if it were just play one match ?
I wasn’t complaining, I was pointing out that it wasn’t accurate.
Great post, XTD! Reading some of the whines and complaints about all this has just been hilarious to a point, and involving a lot of shaking my head. Amazing how patches just really set some people off…..lol.
Your post kept it all very simple and well defined.
But you’ll still see lots of complaints and mis-interpretations.
I am still seeing lots of posts talking about ‘monthlies’….when after this month, they won’t even exist anymore…..lol.
Good job, and keep it up!
Great post, XTD! Reading some of the whines and complaints about all this has just been hilarious to a point, and involving a lot of shaking my head. Amazing how patches just really set some people off…..lol.
Your post kept it all very simple and well defined.
But you’ll still see lots of complaints and mis-interpretations.
I am still seeing lots of posts talking about ‘monthlies’….when after this month, they won’t even exist anymore…..lol.
Good job, and keep it up!
Thank you kindly for that, yea its something we are used to, I just hope we can help clear some things up for folks so they can just play and not get angry over nothing.
Great post, XTD! Reading some of the whines and complaints about all this has just been hilarious to a point, and involving a lot of shaking my head. Amazing how patches just really set some people off…..lol.
Your post kept it all very simple and well defined.
But you’ll still see lots of complaints and mis-interpretations.
I am still seeing lots of posts talking about ‘monthlies’….when after this month, they won’t even exist anymore…..lol.
Good job, and keep it up!
Thank you kindly for that, yea its something we are used to, I just hope we can help clear some things up for folks so they can just play and not get angry over nothing.
I, for one, am really looking forward to the increased ap rewards!!!
same here, ap grinding was boring as hell, at least now each one has chest rewards which is a nice change
Okay so perhaps you can clarify this for me.
I am already maxed at 10k for dailies.
I bevel the new cap to be 15k. So when I did my 3 dailies did I receive any AP? My aily cap still says 10k. The monthly cap is still there and does not appear to have changed?
Have i missed something?
Okay so perhaps you can clarify this for me.
I am already maxed at 10k for dailies.
I bevel the new cap to be 15k. So when I did my 3 dailies did I receive any AP? My aily cap still says 10k. The monthly cap is still there and does not appear to have changed?
Have i missed something?
Maybe it doesn’t take effect until reset in under an hour? Did you already complete the daily before the patch?
I would also imagine that the monthly info will remain until the end of December…..then you won’t see it again, as monthlies won’t exist beyond this month.
Okay so perhaps you can clarify this for me.
I am already maxed at 10k for dailies.
I bevel the new cap to be 15k. So when I did my 3 dailies did I receive any AP? My aily cap still says 10k. The monthly cap is still there and does not appear to have changed?
Have i missed something?
Maybe it doesn’t take effect until reset in under an hour? Did you already complete the daily before the patch?
They said they will introduce cap merge “early in the next year”. I kind of remember that the April feature pack was also to happen “early in the year”, so it can be anything from 16th january (first ls patch), to april.
Before that happens, my guess is you lose those AP’s.
Laurels-
Will be awarded in the DAILY LOGIN CHEST which resets everyday at the daily reset time. As well as a bonus reward that used to be a possible random reward from dailies/monthlies. The login rewards will also rotate on a 28 day cycle..
Well as far as Laurels are concerned. I got my first log on chest and got 2 Mystic coins. No Laurels. Maybe they’re bundled later? Still if it is like 10 after 12 days of playing that’s not more rewards that’s less.
My biggest complaint is all the bouncing back and forth I have to do now. Before I could just log on and play in SW or PvP or lvl an alt AND NOT HAVE TO TRY to do dailies. Now I find myself logging in on my thief for PvP reward then my engi, now my guard. Now I find myself going to magumma for harvesting or Kryta. Now I go to Ascalon for some quick vista then WP back. Get the point? That’s just ridiculous to me. Before you could just play the way you wanted to and the dailies would come naturally. Now I have to scan and find which don’t apply to me and which ones that do and then hunt them out.
For example, I’m not fractal level 11-20 (today’s daily), so I have to find which ones DO apply. Never before, did I have to do that. I could just log on and play and lo and behold the dailies would come naturally. I never even bothered most days to see what they were, I just played the game.
If the old system wasn’t broke, then why fix it?
Okay so perhaps you can clarify this for me.
I am already maxed at 10k for dailies.
I bevel the new cap to be 15k. So when I did my 3 dailies did I receive any AP? My aily cap still says 10k. The monthly cap is still there and does not appear to have changed?
Have i missed something?
Maybe it doesn’t take effect until reset in under an hour? Did you already complete the daily before the patch?
They said they will introduce cap merge “early in the next year”. I kind of remember that the April feature pack was also to happen “early in the year”, so it can be anything from 16th january (first ls patch), to april.
Before that happens, my guess is you lose those AP’s.
Oh well. I already hit the cap last night so no really loss.
where do I see the 28 days log in rewards? when I logged in I saw the panel, then I got 2 coins and now I can not find that panel again
when you get the log in rewards and click on the bouncing chest above your minimap, it shows you all the rewards, mystic coins, laurels, ascended crafting materials, etc etc
where do I see the 28 days log in rewards? when I logged in I saw the panel, then I got 2 coins and now I can not find that panel again
yea I cant seem to find it anywhere after getting the reward, Im sure it will be posted on wiki soon
Laurels-
Will be awarded in the DAILY LOGIN CHEST which resets everyday at the daily reset time. As well as a bonus reward that used to be a possible random reward from dailies/monthlies. The login rewards will also rotate on a 28 day cycle..
Well as far as Laurels are concerned. I got my first log on chest and got 2 Mystic coins. No Laurels. Maybe they’re bundled later? Still if it is like 10 after 12 days of playing that’s not more rewards that’s less.
My biggest complaint is all the bouncing back and forth I have to do now. Before I could just log on and play in SW or PvP or lvl an alt AND NOT HAVE TO TRY to do dailies. Now I find myself logging in on my thief for PvP reward then my engi, now my guard. Now I find myself going to magumma for harvesting or Kryta. Now I go to Ascalon for some quick vista then WP back. Get the point? That’s just ridiculous to me. Before you could just play the way you wanted to and the dailies would come naturally. Now I have to scan and find which don’t apply to me and which ones that do and then hunt them out.
For example, I’m not fractal level 11-20 (today’s daily), so I have to find which ones DO apply. Never before, did I have to do that. I could just log on and play and lo and behold the dailies would come naturally. I never even bothered most days to see what they were, I just played the game.
If the old system wasn’t broke, then why fix it?
they are bundled later, from what I saw laurels are broken up into weekly chest, with some other chests offering laurels as well, but each chest offering more laurels, so its not one per day anymore. And yea I hear you about the small amount of choices, but really it can be finished now in literally less then 5 mins, the last one was harvest 4 plants in maguuma lol.
XTD, thought I would post this……posted this on another thread, but thought it might be valuable for here…..
So I logged in for the first time post patch, and decided to go do the daily. First off, got several small rewards just for logging in, and my first click of 7 logins until I get the bag of laurels. Ok, that’s better than before, since I never got anything on login before.
So went to do my daily, and purposefully took my time doing it. Harvested some Kryta timber, went to an Ascalonian viewpoint, and then purposefully went into wvw, as I knew that might take some time.
Please realize….I took my sweet time doing these things…..under no hurry and just kind of casually looking at where to go next…..
So went out to wvw……got in a couple fights, took a couple minor borderland points, and then finally did my daily of taking down a sentry and capturing the point.
Mind you, I wandered and purposefully took my time with it all.
It took me 24 minutes. Could easily be done in half that time. The rewards I got weren’t incredible, but they were good…..some xp scrit, some christmas goodies, some coin, and 10 AP…..the rewards were much better than the old system…..for doing next to nothing. And you don’t have to go to wvw…..I just did that as I knew it would take some time, as I went into more difficult areas.
Those people that are complaining about this must only have around 15 minutes a night to play.
It is easy as pie to do, and the rewards are much better than before.
Seriously, quit whining, suck it up, go commit a huge 15 minute chunk of time, and do the daily. It is not rocket science.
And if you don’t want to do the daily, that is fine, too. With the older system, the daily took much longer to complete, with far less rewards, even when I was specifically doing the daily.
Heck, sometimes when the coffee place is busy, I will spend 15 minutes just waiting for a coffee drink……I imagine others spend far more time just sitting still in traffic getting to work……..just sayin…….
While I sort of like the new structure, it feels like they’re sort of gimmies; most of them are REALLY quick/easy. Also, I sort of preferred the 1 AP/daily instead of 10 for 3; if you worked more, you got more AP, which made sense. That being said, with a little refinement I think the new system could be much, much better then what we used to have.
While I sort of like the new structure, it feels like they’re sort of gimmies; most of them are REALLY quick/easy. Also, I sort of preferred the 1 AP/daily instead of 10 for 3; if you worked more, you got more AP, which made sense. That being said, with a little refinement I think the new system could be much, much better then what we used to have.
Agreed…it needs some tweaks……especially the laurel reward system…….but getting 10 ap for 15 minutes of game play time(tops) absolutely rocks in my book.
but getting 10 ap for 15 minutes of game play time(tops) absolutely rocks in my book.
It’s sort of nice, but it also makes me feel like I’m being rewarded for doing nothing, which I’m not a huge fan of.
you need 3 daily tasks and if you only PVE there are only 3 so you have no flexibility (today is kryta lumber, ascalon vista and maguuma events). Being locked into which daily tasks you do isn’t better as I don’t like wvw, pvp or fractals. I’d done my daily since they first started, but after seeing the changes I just logged off. Guess I get to spend more time with the family so maybe it is an improvement.
you need 3 daily tasks and if you only PVE there are only 3
There are actually 4 per category (WvW, PvP, PvE).
but getting 10 ap for 15 minutes of game play time(tops) absolutely rocks in my book.
It’s sort of nice, but it also makes me feel like I’m being rewarded for doing nothing, which I’m not a huge fan of.
With as tough as it was to make any sort of substantial AP progress in the past, any improvement to that grind is more than welcomed, in my book.
you need 3 daily tasks and if you only PVE there are only 3 so you have no flexibility (today is kryta lumber, ascalon vista and maguuma events). Being locked into which daily tasks you do isn’t better as I don’t like wvw, pvp or fractals. I’d done my daily since they first started, but after seeing the changes I just logged off. Guess I get to spend more time with the family so maybe it is an improvement.
I am curious. Did you actually TRY the new system? Or did you just look at it and say, “no”.
When you’re not even willing to try a new change for any length of time in a game before making a harsh judgement on it…….sounds like you were already looking for a reason to quit the game.
And that’s fine. Might help to be honest about it, though. And I don’t say that lightly or as a form of smack talk or whatever……I have played mmorpgs for a long time, and sometimes, when changes come along, one is just looking for a reason to quit. Been there, done that, and there is nothing wrong with that.
How can log-in in 28 times even compared to doing the monthly quests we had to do?
Sure you get your laurels, but the monthly could be done in 3-4 days of ACTUAL PLAYING, not 28 days of just LOG-IN – Log out. The new method (1) doesn’t reward actually playing the game, (2) punishes you if you go away for a vacation or cannot log-in every day. Just why Anet thought it was a good idea is beyond my understanding.
Well I am glad it works for ya’ll. I used to like my dailies more than I like the new ones. I did get them done though. Not sure why anyone had a Magumma on their dailies. My PVE were run a fractal 11-20 or Silverwastes events; have never done any LS season 2 so that one was out and the fractals. But I went into WvW and got two there; so I am happy that they wer mix and match otherwise I would not have gotten the daily at all.
I guess the nerf to Laurels; yes NERF, is totally fine too; 35 laurels a month; down from 40 and 12 mystic coins total is also a nerf, so enjoy that too. I got a little karma, but is probably going to be way less than before…
I won’t know about the crafting bag rewards but I gather a lot so that won’t matter.
As an aside there were no Empryal frags or Dragonite ore in the chests in EotM; a stealth nerf I think. Even more fun from the wonderful ppl at Arena Net.
So I give the changes a thumbs down; but that’s just me.
With as tough as it was to make any sort of substantial AP progress in the past, any improvement to that grind is more than welcomed, in my book.
Eh. AP is sort of a representation of what you’ve done in the game. While you can grind it out, that’s not really the point. Most of it still reflects what you’ve done in the game/how long you’ve played, but with how it is now you’re getting AP for doing little/nothing, and people who put in more effort for the AP won’t have it show.
Well I am glad it works for ya’ll. I used to like my dailies more than I like the new ones. I did get them done though. Not sure why anyone had a Magumma on their dailies. My PVE were run a fractal 11-20 or Silverwastes events; have never done any LS season 2 so that one was out and the fractals. But I went into WvW and got two there; so I am happy that they wer mix and match otherwise I would not have gotten the daily at all.
I guess the nerf to Laurels; yes NERF, is totally fine too; 35 laurels a month; down from 40 and 12 mystic coins total is also a nerf, so enjoy that too. I got a little karma, but is probably going to be way less than before…
I won’t know about the crafting bag rewards but I gather a lot so that won’t matter.
As an aside there were no Empryal frags or Dragonite ore in the chests in EotM; a stealth nerf I think. Even more fun from the wonderful ppl at Arena Net.
So I give the changes a thumbs down; but that’s just me.
You don’t have to have done any living world to go to a new zone and do events there. It takes about ten minutes to do 4 events there. There are events everywhere.
Why on earth would you completely ignore a new zone?
just wanted to add this to help people out. When Exotic crafter is part of the daily, you can simply craft an exotic essence of luck to complete it, all it requires is having artificer on a character, dont even need to level the craft, and the proper amount of luck that adds up to 200. For example 4x masterwork essences of luck (50 luck each) can simply be combined to complete it. Have fun.
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also updated original post, hope it helps
just wanted to add this to help people out. When Exotic crafter is part of the daily, you can simply craft an exotic essence of luck to complete it, all it requires is 100lvl in artificer on an character and the proper amount of luck that adds up to 200. For example 4x masterwork essences of luck (50luck) can simply be combined to complete it. Have fun.
Actually, it requires only Level 0 (or 1, I suppose) on Artificer to refine/craft Essence of Luck.
Good luck!
my apologies, will correct that
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