Guild Wars 2

I am not normally one to rant about game events or patches, but this is too much. Who’s bright idea was it to put on of the samples at the end of the jumping puzzle?

Trying to do this puzzle is difficult at the best of times, made even more so with 20-30 people all trying it at the same time.

You don’t have to do it. There are 11 samples, you only need 10 for the story.

Luckily, it’s not needed for the 10 sample reward, and on its own, the sample isn’t even worth any achievement points. Given that, I don’t see why it would be an issue. I wouldn’t even bring OCD as an argument either because there’s plenty of permanent achievements out there that one may never acquire due to limitations of tolerance or capabilities. I think it’s convenient that we have some freedom in choosing which achievements to chase for the item rewards.

you have nearly 4 weeks to do the jp…. stop complaining few hours after patch…
the jp would be THE ONLY LITTLE challenge about the event and immediatly people are complaining “nooo you cant expect from us to work for rewards!!!!!!”

so just…
DEAL WITH IT! DEAL WITH IT! DEAL WITH IT! DEAL WITH IT! DEAL WITH IT!
(you have ENOUGH time)

I’ve passed more than 1 hour on portal duty with my Mesmer due to the difficultly of the said JP to some of my friends. Check if a Mesmer is in the end, and ask for a portal.

Oh my god, why do I have to do anything in the game, hand kitten over to me already, where are all my ascended items? Where the kitten is my Legendary? Why doesn’t ArenaNet let me use a bot program, why do I have to play the game myself to get anything

No, no, no.

Orangensaft.7139:

you have nearly 4 weeks to do the jp…. stop complaining few hours after patch…
the jp would be THE ONLY LITTLE challenge about the event and immediatly people are complaining “nooo you cant expect from us to work for rewards!!!!!!”

so just…
DEAL WITH IT! DEAL WITH IT! DEAL WITH IT! DEAL WITH IT! DEAL WITH IT!
(you have ENOUGH time)

I did deal with it. I completed the puzzle and got the sample (along with a nice 4g exotic from the puzzle chest). I still hate the bloody jumping puzzle, and this is coming from someone who completed the Mad King’s Clocktower – Skipping Stones is frustrating.

LHound.8964:

I’ve passed more than 1 hour on portal duty with my Mesmer due to the difficultly of the said JP to some of my friends. Check if a Mesmer is in the end, and ask for a portal.

And tip them. Seriously, tip Mesmers if you want them to hang out and help with jumping puzzles

Duke Blackrose.4981:

Orangensaft.7139:

you have nearly 4 weeks to do the jp…. stop complaining few hours after patch…
the jp would be THE ONLY LITTLE challenge about the event and immediatly people are complaining “nooo you cant expect from us to work for rewards!!!!!!”

so just…
DEAL WITH IT! DEAL WITH IT! DEAL WITH IT! DEAL WITH IT! DEAL WITH IT!
(you have ENOUGH time)

I did deal with it. I completed the puzzle and got the sample (along with a nice 4g exotic from the puzzle chest). I still hate the bloody jumping puzzle, and this is coming from someone who completed the Mad King’s Clocktower – Skipping Stones is frustrating.

if you dont like the jp why do it then??
you can get both backpacks without doing the jp….
AND you miss 0 achievement points because collecting the samples doesnt give any points…
so i dont see any reason why you are complaining?! …

ZudetGambeous.9573:

You don’t have to do it. There are 11 samples, you only need 10 for the story.

Pretty much this.

There’s also oodles of other achievements you can do in order to get the 25 needed for the backpack. You don’t need to get this last sample at all.

Farzo.8410:

Oh my god, why do I have to do anything in the game, hand kitten over to me already, where are all my ascended items? Where the kitten is my Legendary? Why doesn’t ArenaNet let me use a bot program, why do I have to play the game myself to get anything

No, no, no.

Sheesh dude, take a chill pill.
I didn’t ask for anything to be handed over, all I said was placing a sample (whether it’s required or not) at the end of a jumping puzzle was not a well thought out idea.

I completed the puzzle, which was made more difficult with loads of people all trying it at the same time. Try timing a jump, onto floating stones with ~ 5-10 people doing exactly the same thing.

Neurochazm.5370:

Farzo.8410:

Oh my god, why do I have to do anything in the game, hand kitten over to me already, where are all my ascended items? Where the kitten is my Legendary? Why doesn’t ArenaNet let me use a bot program, why do I have to play the game myself to get anything

No, no, no.

Sheesh dude, take a chill pill.
I didn’t ask for anything to be handed over, all I said was placing a sample (whether it’s required or not) at the end of a jumping puzzle was not a well thought out idea.

I completed the puzzle, which was made more difficult with loads of people all trying it at the same time. Try timing a jump, onto floating stones with ~ 5-10 people doing exactly the same thing.

As others have already said, it clearly was well thought out, as you only need 10 of the 11 available samples.

There’s also no achievement points associated with this one challenge and it’s completely possible to get the Karka backpiece without slogging through the jumping puzzle.

In short, it was well thought out.

I was never able to beat this piece of junk. I tried since the release of Southsun. I’m not keep trying. I want to have fun with a game.

Hope you’re not talking about the skipping stones? Tried it for ages and eventually gave up. The other one is very easy though.

A modicum of difficulty? Oh sweet Quag kill me now, this is completely against true gaming and GW2’s ethics. Brb quitting 9ever and devoting the rest of my life to crying on the forums.

On a side note, the last time I did this puzzle was on a character much larger than I usually jump with after two months between the last time I did skipping stones, and I did it the first try. It really isn’t hard. At all.

If that’s still not enough for you, Mesmers flock to the end to make money porting people up to it and it isn’t even necessary for the achievement. Although I guess even the illusion of minor challenge can scare some people.

Scumbag Mawile.6384:

A modicum of difficulty? Oh sweet Quag kill me now, this is completely against true gaming and GW2’s ethics. Brb quitting 9ever and devoting the rest of my life to crying on the forums.

On a side note, the last time I did this puzzle was on a character much larger than I usually jump with after two months between the last time I did skipping stones, and I did it the first try. It really isn’t hard. At all.

If that’s still not enough for you, Mesmers flock to the end to make money porting people up to it and it isn’t even necessary for the achievement. Although I guess even the illusion of minor challenge can scare some people.

Probably I’m just not good enough but I couldn’t manage it. The last thing I need is elitists telling me how easy it is. Sure you mastered it, but I didn’t. I would appreciate a bit of respect.

On the other hand, playing blindfold chess is easy too imho … I don’t trash talk others who can’t.

I just grabbed a portal and tipped the kind player. Gave me precious extra seconds wearing my sweet new tentacle backpack.

marnick.4305:

Scumbag Mawile.6384:

A modicum of difficulty? Oh sweet Quag kill me now, this is completely against true gaming and GW2’s ethics. Brb quitting 9ever and devoting the rest of my life to crying on the forums.

On a side note, the last time I did this puzzle was on a character much larger than I usually jump with after two months between the last time I did skipping stones, and I did it the first try. It really isn’t hard. At all.

If that’s still not enough for you, Mesmers flock to the end to make money porting people up to it and it isn’t even necessary for the achievement. Although I guess even the illusion of minor challenge can scare some people.

Probably I’m just not good enough but I couldn’t manage it. The last thing I need is elitists telling me how easy it is. Sure you mastered it, but I didn’t. I would appreciate a bit of respect.

On the other hand, playing blindfold chess is easy too imho … I don’t trash talk others who can’t.

oh yeah well i can touch my nose with my toes

I’ve done that JP a total of three times. Which really wasn’t the point (see: ‘On a side not’). Said point being that it’s completely unnecessary and you can just take a portal up there anyway. Though, I already said that and you failed to absorb it, so really no point in repeating myself.

Scumbag Mawile.6384:

marnick.4305:

Scumbag Mawile.6384:

A modicum of difficulty? Oh sweet Quag kill me now, this is completely against true gaming and GW2’s ethics. Brb quitting 9ever and devoting the rest of my life to crying on the forums.

On a side note, the last time I did this puzzle was on a character much larger than I usually jump with after two months between the last time I did skipping stones, and I did it the first try. It really isn’t hard. At all.

If that’s still not enough for you, Mesmers flock to the end to make money porting people up to it and it isn’t even necessary for the achievement. Although I guess even the illusion of minor challenge can scare some people.

Probably I’m just not good enough but I couldn’t manage it. The last thing I need is elitists telling me how easy it is. Sure you mastered it, but I didn’t. I would appreciate a bit of respect.

On the other hand, playing blindfold chess is easy too imho … I don’t trash talk others who can’t.

oh yeah well i can touch my nose with my toes

I can do that too

Farzo.8410:

Scumbag Mawile.6384:

marnick.4305:

Scumbag Mawile.6384:

A modicum of difficulty? Oh sweet Quag kill me now, this is completely against true gaming and GW2’s ethics. Brb quitting 9ever and devoting the rest of my life to crying on the forums.

On a side note, the last time I did this puzzle was on a character much larger than I usually jump with after two months between the last time I did skipping stones, and I did it the first try. It really isn’t hard. At all.

If that’s still not enough for you, Mesmers flock to the end to make money porting people up to it and it isn’t even necessary for the achievement. Although I guess even the illusion of minor challenge can scare some people.

Probably I’m just not good enough but I couldn’t manage it. The last thing I need is elitists telling me how easy it is. Sure you mastered it, but I didn’t. I would appreciate a bit of respect.

On the other hand, playing blindfold chess is easy too imho … I don’t trash talk others who can’t.

oh yeah well i can touch my nose with my toes

I can do that too

stop crushing my dreams

Oh my …

I was clearing out the reef drakes around that island while searching for the Islet sample when I realised it was on top of the island. I didn’t even know it was at the end of that JP. cos I never tried to do Skipping Stones.

A couple of other players showed up, then a mesmer portal appeared at my feet, so I used it. I was so focused on getting the sample, I still didn’t realise this was the end of the JP.

It wasn’t until after I got the sample, and looked around a bit I realised where I was. I jumped across the little bits of wood to the chest and got the JP achievement as well.

I’m not very good in Jumping puzzles but I’ll try it anyway. Gives me a reason to see if I can get any better in them.

I did the puzzle a few weeks ago when I was on a journey to complete all the jumping puzzles(had only a few at the start and didn’t care much about them).

I didn’t think it was that hard. Of course you have to be fast… but I think there are more annoying jumping puzzles in the game. Especially the WvW ones where you have enemies and can die(meaning you need to walk all the long way back… also the puzzles itself are a bit longer at least the big one they moved to a seperate map now).

I think it’s pretty ok to have a sample at the end. Ofc it may be a bit crowded in that place but this sample isn’t even needed to get the achievement. Everyone who loves jumpingpuzzles had plenty of time to do it alone before the event was up. So I think it’s pretty ok to give people a “hint” that there is a jumping-puzzle as well in that area by placing ome if the samples there. I also think when most people have done it less people will do it. We are talking about the first evening this event was up.

Neurochazm.5370:

I am not normally one to rant about game events or patches, but this is too much. Who’s bright idea was it to put on of the samples at the end of the jumping puzzle?

Trying to do this puzzle is difficult at the best of times, made even more so with 20-30 people all trying it at the same time.

You actually have to do something “difficult” for an achievement?!

If they didn’t fixed that: when I last did it it was possible to jump up the geysers at the end and skip most of the JP.

they fixed that a while ago

This jump puzzle was a pain when it first released, i remember struggling with it and after finally getting the jump timings right and making it across the geysers, was relieved then i saw there was another part to it and thought kitten this!!

Some of my friends have great perseverance when it comes to the jump puzzles in this game, but this puzzle broke all but one of them who’s OCD got the better of him.

It’s been said a couple of times in this thread that there isn’t an achievement point associated with this sample – the Islet sample – but.. there is? o_o There’s a point for all of them .. right? Or was I seeing things last night? Dulfy’s guide even says to get it for a point towards the 25 ..

“There are 11 samples but you only need to to scan 10 samples for the Southsun Volunteer Fieldwork achievement (however, get all 11 if you want the Southsun Stalwart achievement).”

Elodie.3850:

It’s been said a couple of times in this thread that there isn’t an achievement point associated with this sample – the Islet sample – but.. there is? o_o There’s a point for all of them .. right? Or was I seeing things last night? Dulfy’s guide even says to get it for a point towards the 25 ..

“There are 11 samples but you only need to to scan 10 samples for the Southsun Volunteer Fieldwork achievement (however, get all 11 if you want the Southsun Stalwart achievement).”

Finally someone has seen the reason for my original post, thank you.

All the people shouting “You don’t need it, you only need 10 for the achievement”, obviously failed to realise that ALL 11 are needed for the Meta achievement “Southsun Stalwart”.

I have no objection to working hard for something, and never expect something for nothing, hence the reason I completed the puzzle without the use of a Mesmer.

I was only complaining, because not every one has the patience of a Saint required to do the puzzle with so many others trying it at the same time.

There are a lot more than 25 achievements available to get the stalwart title. Not ALL 11 samples are required.

But I’m sure you didn’t even check, just easy mode follow the guide.

Some achievement…

I’m not saying you have to get it for the 25, otherwise you can spend a lot of time trying to get some crab battle achievements instead (since a chunk of the achievements aren’t possible yet, right?). Lesser of two evils? I was simply pointing out that they were wrong in saying you don’t get a point for it, because you do..

you as everyone else has said don’t even need to do this to get the achieve done.

and god forbid something difficult in a game miraculously showed up.

Who me? I wasn’t complaining! Just pointing out there is a point associated with it ~

Neurochazm.5370:

Elodie.3850:

It’s been said a couple of times in this thread that there isn’t an achievement point associated with this sample – the Islet sample – but.. there is? o_o There’s a point for all of them .. right? Or was I seeing things last night? Dulfy’s guide even says to get it for a point towards the 25 ..

“There are 11 samples but you only need to to scan 10 samples for the Southsun Volunteer Fieldwork achievement (however, get all 11 if you want the Southsun Stalwart achievement).”

Finally someone has seen the reason for my original post, thank you.

All the people shouting “You don’t need it, you only need 10 for the achievement”, obviously failed to realise that ALL 11 are needed for the Meta achievement “Southsun Stalwart”.

No, they arent needed.

as Caiomacos said, it’s not needed.

Nerp, not needed. But still is an achievement all on it’s own and gives a point ~ So unless you’re super obsessive and HAVE to get it, you DON’T have to get it. xD

DrixTrix.7168:

you as everyone else has said don’t even need to do this to get the achieve done.

and god forbid something difficult in a game miraculously showed up.

it’s more fustrating than difficult i’d say.

You get an achievement just for joining 1 crab battle. Easy right?

Yea, but there’s a few other ones associated with crab battles that’ll take more time to get. :o I’m not at my home pc so I can’t login and check exact numbers on them or details >:

But I’m like 99.999999%-100% sure that EACH of the 11 sample locations have their OWN achievements, as well as the one for 10/10 for the flower backpiece. So the people who said there’s no achievement for it were wrong. :x That’s all!

aspirine.6852:

I’m not very good in Jumping puzzles but I’ll try it anyway. Gives me a reason to see if I can get any better in them.

Not a good place to start learning. This is definitely the hardest currently accessible JP in GW2.

Elodie. I’m sure you made your point. I was not responding to you, but to the OP.

And yes each of the 11 samples has their own achievement, and not all are required for the title.

The sample at the end of the JP is a great idea because :

- incentivizes/rewards people for completing it
- is not needed by people that don’t want to get it.

/thread

Eh hard to follow without quoting to direct at a certain person, sorry xD Or I’m just too sleepy/dumb :p

Clock tower was harder. Took me a few hours of trying. This in less than 1 hour. A bit more people there than usual but still not that hard especially if you have at least 1 speed buff and remember to wait at certain safe positions.

Luthan.5236:

Clock tower was harder.

Yes, which is why i said " currently accessible"

This is one of those times that I curse my connection and general lack of coordination. JPs are my bane, I just can’t do them. I don’t understand what about it is so hard, but when it comes to any type of coordinated jumps in a game (even as simple as the original NES super mario brothers) I just can’t do it. -sad face-

Elodie.3850:

Yea, but there’s a few other ones associated with crab battles that’ll take more time to get. :o I’m not at my home pc so I can’t login and check exact numbers on them or details >:

But I’m like 99.999999%-100% sure that EACH of the 11 sample locations have their OWN achievements, as well as the one for 10/10 for the flower backpiece. So the people who said there’s no achievement for it were wrong. :x That’s all!

Each sample has its own achievement, but it rewards 0 points. And this one sample isnt absolutely needed for the Southsun Volunteer Fieldwork (since you only need 10 of the 11 samples) nor is it required for Stalwart (since you only need to complete 25 out of 35+ achievements).

caiomacos.1694:

Elodie.3850:

Yea, but there’s a few other ones associated with crab battles that’ll take more time to get. :o I’m not at my home pc so I can’t login and check exact numbers on them or details >:

But I’m like 99.999999%-100% sure that EACH of the 11 sample locations have their OWN achievements, as well as the one for 10/10 for the flower backpiece. So the people who said there’s no achievement for it were wrong. :x That’s all!

Each sample has its own achievement, but it rewards 0 points. And this one sample isnt absolutely needed for the Southsun Volunteer Fieldwork (since you only need 10 of the 11 samples) nor is it required for Stalwart (since you only need to complete 25 out of 35+ achievements).

Oho, thought they were 1 point! xD As I said, can’t check But even still, was just saying there isn’t something tied to it ~ And for some people (like me) having that empty bar for the achievement not filled with that lovely yellowy orange color is a lil.. irksome? I’ll get you yet, Islet sample!

This JP was awful. I didn’t have it before yesterday.

I tried to launch a run to finish it in the overflow I was in, without success, or guys were at the end of the JP asking for ridiculous amounts of gold to open portals (5-10g).

Not 10 minutes later I was lucky and got a slot in my server’s southsun cove. I took all my party with me. And the guys were just starting a JP run. It took 5 mesmers and 30 minutes to get it done. In the end there was nearly a permanent portal both at the end of the JP and at the sample, freely done, and everybody got both his achi and the sample.

I guess that I’m lucky to be on my server, people are nicer than in other places.