State of the game from my point of view.
An interesting read… though I think the question should be, not “if” they’ll change the game, but instead… “why” they would change the game.
If their logic is fail, then it wont matter “if” they change the game, due to their motivations being in the wrong direction.
IE: Legendaries are hard to get ~ ANet now have precursors drop from BLC’s.
#Justification would be that because legendaries are NOT stronger than exotics, that putting them in the BLC’s would NOT = buying power.
An interesting read… though I think the question should be, not “if” they’ll change the game, but instead… “why” they would change the game.
If their logic is fail, then it wont matter “if” they change the game, due to their motivations being in the wrong direction.
IE: Legendaries are hard to get ~ ANet now have precursors drop from BLC’s.
#Justification would be that because legendaries are NOT stronger than exotics, that putting them in the BLC’s would NOT = buying power.
Im not sure if they are or if they aren’t. I would like it if I could set a goal and work for it but farming money to buy something then farm more money too finish buying what I wanted is lame
@Ausa
Im not sure if they are or if they aren’t. I would like it if I could set a goal and work for it but farming money to buy something then farm more money too finish buying what I wanted is lame.
It doesn’t seem ANet are interested tbh ~
My motivations for change revolved around GW2’s potential to be a great MMO.
But as many people have replied back to my suggestion~ saying that GW2 = “Casual Fun”:: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Combat-Dynamic-Events-what-s-the-point-if-they-re-easy-mode/page/1 ~ I’d say they’re right.
Currently, GW2 is identical to an Elder Scrolls game… in that it has a beautiful open world, tons of solo play “events” and even some that you may need a Support NPC.
In total, GW2 isn’t an MMO and doesn’t bring anything new to the table, in that the “Public Quests” from Warhammer were more involved and unique than anything I’ve found in GW2.
In fact, you could push the warfront forward to the enemies capitol using the “Public Quests” in WAR ~ this involved teamwork and created a sense of community amongst your server/faction.
Meanwhile, everything in GW2 pushes players away from eachother:: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/links/Article-A-history-of-MMOs-and-Console-games
At the end of the day, I think ANet are happy with GW2 being more in common with a console game, rather than an MMO ~ and there’s nothing wrong with that.
But at the same time, they shouldn’t sell or advertise GW2 as something it’s not (an MMO). This leads people to expect something GW2 cannot offer. Thus why so many people are upset and posting complaints. (beyond the bot problem).
@Ausa
Im not sure if they are or if they aren’t. I would like it if I could set a goal and work for it but farming money to buy something then farm more money too finish buying what I wanted is lame.
It doesn’t seem ANet are interested tbh ~
My motivations for change revolved around GW2’s potential to be a great MMO.
But as many people have replied back to my suggestion~ saying that GW2 = “Casual Fun”:: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Combat-Dynamic-Events-what-s-the-point-if-they-re-easy-mode/page/1 ~ I’d say they’re right.
Currently, GW2 is identical to an Elder Scrolls game… in that it has a beautiful open world, tons of solo play “events” and even some that you may need a Support NPC.
In total, GW2 isn’t an MMO and doesn’t bring anything new to the table, in that the “Public Quests” from Warhammer were more involved and unique than anything I’ve found in GW2.
In fact, you could push the warfront forward to the enemies capitol using the “Public Quests” in WAR ~ this involved teamwork and created a sense of community amongst your server/faction.
Meanwhile, everything in GW2 pushes players away from eachother:: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/links/Article-A-history-of-MMOs-and-Console-games
At the end of the day, I think ANet are happy with GW2 being more in common with a console game, rather than an MMO ~ and there’s nothing wrong with that.
But at the same time, they shouldn’t sell or advertise GW2 as something it’s not (an MMO). This leads people to expect something GW2 cannot offer. Thus why so many people are upset and posting complaints. (beyond the bot problem).
Yeah I understand your point. But like you said they called it an mmo and I bought it because I like mmo’s. Oh well maybe they will change maybe they wont. we will just have to wait and see. Thats all we can do seeing how i’ve done everything else in the game. :>
MMORPG = Massively Multiplayer Online RPG.
I see that people’s expectations of what an MMO is have changed over the years. But GW2 is still massively multiplayer (say what you will about Dynamic Events being a “single player” affair, you’re still doing them with other people.).
MMORPG = Massively Multiplayer Online RPG.
I see that people’s expectations of what an MMO is have changed over the years. But GW2 is still massively multiplayer (say what you will about Dynamic Events being a “single player” affair, you’re still doing them with other people.).
When I talk to my friends of old, and why they use to play MUD’s, Asherons Call and Ultima Online ~ they always talk about the “community” and how back then, those games WERE Facebook. As in, a place for like minded people to gather, socialize and enjoy the craft.
GW2 doesn’t do that, and in my opinion is why WoW is still “king” ~ despite their outdated graphics and kung fu panda hijinks..
If you’ve ever heard someone shout “FOR THE HORDE!” ~ you can see without a shadow of a doubt that the game inspires and promotes a sense of community… for better or worse.
At the end of the day, can you really say that GW2 IS an MMO anymore than League of Legends, Team Fortress 2 or Playing Skyrim while talking to your friends on skype?
The biggest dropped ball has to do with the communication between players.
There is never really time to type and most are just able to fire of a “ty” or a smiley after a rez, if that.
It is in my opinion the major factor contributing to the harsh anti-mmo vibe(a Zerg fest is NOT an MMO) of this game. And its almost assured slide into the “niche” like LOTRO (Tolkien fans mostly) or EVE Online(space masochists).
A partnership with VIVOX for free voice chat would´ve been very beneficial IMHO.
But I guess nobody had that brainwave during the micro beta and after pushing that unfinished client onto us(see FPS problems in the Tech Support board).
Polish > hype
MMORPG = Massively Multiplayer Online RPG.
I see that people’s expectations of what an MMO is have changed over the years. But GW2 is still massively multiplayer (say what you will about Dynamic Events being a “single player” affair, you’re still doing them with other people.).
When I talk to my friends of old, and why they use to play MUD’s, Asherons Call and Ultima Online ~ they always talk about the “community” and how back then, those games WERE Facebook. As in, a place for like minded people to gather, socialize and enjoy the craft.
GW2 doesn’t do that, and in my opinion is why WoW is still “king” ~ despite their outdated graphics and kung fu panda hijinks..
If you’ve ever heard someone shout “FOR THE HORDE!” ~ you can see without a shadow of a doubt that the game inspires and promotes a sense of community… for better or worse.
At the end of the day, can you really say that GW2 IS an MMO anymore than League of Legends, Team Fortress 2 or Playing Skyrim while talking to your friends on skype?
I can understand the feeling of the lack of community, but idk, it’s there if you look for it. I’m in a good guild and there’s plenty of community there. We run dungeons, we do jumping puzzles together, we run WvW.
When you’re just running around the world and doing DE’s, teamwork isn’t required most of the time, but that can be said about WoW as well with their LFG system and when you’re just running around their world. If you wanted a sense of community in WoW, you’d join a guild, do heroics/raids, do PvP. You can find that in GW2 also, though we lack the Raiding equivalent. However, if you wanted to get a huge group together, you can do WvW and make a significant impact.
What makes GW2 an MMO is that hundreds of people (onot sure what the player cap is) can exist in the same instance. That doesn’t happen in TF2, or LoL.
I am confused. You’re saying there is no end game, but at the end of the post you attempt to legitimize this claim this by refusing to participate in the most end-game activity in Guild Wars 2.
Why would you participate in dungeons? Because you want a to craft a gift that requires those tokens. Why do you want to play WvW? Because you want 500 tokens for your Gift of Mastery. Why would you explore the zone and do lower level events? Because you want a gift of Exploration to make your Gift of Mastery. You can’t buy those things with a credit card, disregarding the fact that it’d take hundreds or thousands of dollars to buy enough gold to get a Legendary Precursor and the materials required to make a gift. This is a long term goal. Inside of that long term goal there are many short term goals. Aside from the Gift of Mastery and those dungeon tokens required for an individual gift, how you get there is up to you.
That last line is the part you’re so angry about. It’s baffling. You can do anything you want to get the goal you want. Set a goal for yourself.
You want Twilight? Lets start.
You first need a Gift of Metal. Lets get 250 of those ingots. That can probably be done pretty easily. But you also need a Gift of Magic, Gift of Might, and a Gift of Fortune. That means you should probably kill those enemies on the way to the nodes. Even in a level 1-15 zone, you still get level 72-80 rares to salvage for ectos!
But it might be easier to buy some of those things off the Trading Post. That’ll take some money. May as well do the Ascalon Catacombs to get your Gift of Ascalon and make some money when the Orichalcum nodes respawn. That’ll also help with your experience, which can’t be bought off the trading post, by the way, for a Bloodstone Shard.
But now I’ve gotten bored of trying to explain how incredibly time-consuming getting a Legendary Weapon can be. It’s even time consuming to talk about how time consuming it is. Tell you what: that sounds like prestige to me. Anybody who puts that many hours into the game is impressive somehow.
Someone said the problem is the community. I agree, but I don’t think it’s the friendliness of openness. It’s a strange misconception that we have to be shoehorned into something we generally hate to do. Arena.Net promised us a game where we can do almost anything to get to our goals. That’s what they delivered.
Do you like big raids? Go to the Straits of Devastation. Do you like organized parties? Do a Dungeon. Do you like open-world PvP? Play WvW. Do you like exploration? Do events. Set a goal for yourself while you’re doing it. That is your endgame. -Do what you want.-
Is that really so infuriating?