Stealth Nerfs...are they real?

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Posted by: Tom.6478

Tom.6478

I have read many times about stealth nerfs, but as far as I know , no one can prove it. Its just anecdotal evidence.

However I believe they exist.

Again this is just anecdotal on my part, but it sure seems you get fewer rares from world events.

I actually don’t have a problem with that. I just wish they would say so.

Now maybe Anet said something somewhere about this….if they did, I missed it.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

Likely happens right alongside the stealth buffs. =/

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Posted by: Seera.5916

Seera.5916

I have read many times about stealth nerfs, but as far as I know , no one can prove it. Its just anecdotal evidence.

However I believe they exist.

Again this is just anecdotal on my part, but it sure seems you get fewer rares from world events.

I actually don’t have a problem with that. I just wish they would say so.

Now maybe Anet said something somewhere about this….if they did, I missed it.

RNG can have bad streaks. Especially systems that are independent of previous iterations. Like this game has for everything (or at least everything that I know of). What the previous champion bag dropped has no bearing on what I get in my next bag.

It is possible to flip a coin 100 times and it land on heads 100 times. Chances are really low, but it happening does not necessarily mean the coin is biased.

They likely also stealth buff things. And stealth fix things.

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Posted by: Tom.6478

Tom.6478

I really have no problem with buffs or nerfs. If the stealth things do exits, I just wish they would tell us.

Maybe stealth nerfs/buffs don’t exist….but people sure think they do.

Oh well, I won’t slit my wrist over it either way….:)

Its just something I would like to know for sure.

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Posted by: Seera.5916

Seera.5916

I really have no problem with buffs or nerfs. If the stealth things do exits, I just wish they would tell us.

Maybe stealth nerfs/buffs don’t exist….but people sure think they do.

Oh well, I won’t slit my wrist over it either way….:)

Its just something I would like to know for sure.

That’s the thing, if they told us about them, they wouldn’t be stealth nerfs/buffs/fixes. And they generally have a reason for why they don’t tell us (whether we agree with that reason is another issue).

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

I went through a period where I got less rares for a while from world events and chests, and a few weeks ago, I started getting very lucky and getting more, which has persisted till today. No rhyme or reason to it.

The human mind is trained to see patterns. That’s why people think nerfs are going on.

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Posted by: Monk Tank.5897

Monk Tank.5897

Thats what the map closing is for. Dynamic incoming nerf without a patch.

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

You can’t tell if there’s a change in rare drops without collecting data on 1,000s of drops. Since none of us do that, we are left with our own recollection (notoriously bad) and our own estimation of the rate (also notoriously bad).

For example, a few months ago, I had the following results at the mystic forge:

  • Ran through ~30 attempts resulted in 1 promotion (instead of the expected: 6).
  • Then through ~8 attempts with 6 promotions (vs 1.5 expected)

Overall, the results were exactly average. The first 30 give the appearance of an extreme nerf and the last 8 seem like much better luck. Except this was all done at the same time, on the same character (I just happened to be counting).

In other words, streaks happen and we just are terrible about figuring out how that relates to the actual odds.

John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”

(edited by Illconceived Was Na.9781)

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Posted by: dace.8019

dace.8019

The problem with stealth nerfs (or buffs, for that matter) is that once identified we can’t be sure if they are intended or not.

eg. Since the last patch, Sigils of Fire/Air have lower damage, mysteriously.

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Posted by: Majic.4801

Majic.4801

Stealth nerfs are nothing more than a popular fiction which can easily be explained by weather balloons and swamp gas.

“Not the same, real and true. True you feel inside.
Always follow what is true.” — Sentry-skritt Bordekka

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Posted by: Ashen.2907

Ashen.2907

Stealth changes happen.

Sometimes a producer fotgets to include a patch note.

Other times the company might decide that a change is sufficiently inconsequential to not merit a note.

Other times the company might want a change to be played before being noticed in order for it to have the possibility of avoiding preconception about its impact.

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Posted by: ricky markham.8173

ricky markham.8173

Likely happens right alongside the stealth buffs. =/

stealth buffs… doh thats it i might have to just keep playing now you kittened off all the people who wanted my free stuff… sorry joke to rag on a joke

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Posted by: Kecal.3964

Kecal.3964

They definitely do stealth fixes to exploits, since they don’t want exploits to be known.
As for buffs/nerfs we can’t tell.