Still no word on Mastery vs Proof of Heroics.
My guess would be that they are looking at gathering the Proofs as being similar to a pve character being required to actually trek to each point and obtain it.
I think masteries being account bound is irrelevant here. Yes, once you grind through the masteries, you dont have to do them again, so you can just traverse the maps on each character to get to each point, but that you still have to actually “go to” each point on each character and then complete the “challenge” for that point. My understanding being, that some of them absolutely require additional people and sometimes you get to play the waiting game until others arrive. Fun right?
Where as for the proofs, the extent of your challenge is simply making sure to obtain the scroll on the right character. For certain points, the wvw method might actually be easier/faster.
Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.
Where as for the proofs, the extent of your challenge is simply making sure to obtain the scroll on the right character. For certain points, the wvw method might actually be easier/faster.
Yeah, it’s not even close to being faster than someone with all their masteries in pve. You can’t just “get a group” run around and get all your wvw rank on an alt in the same way you’ll be able to do this with PvE players.
Where as for the proofs, the extent of your challenge is simply making sure to obtain the scroll on the right character. For certain points, the wvw method might actually be easier/faster.
Yeah, it’s not even close to being faster than someone with all their masteries in pve. You can’t just “get a group” run around and get all your wvw rank on an alt in the same way you’ll be able to do this with PvE players.
I guess that depends on the person. You may have noted that there have been a lot of complaints about the difficulties people are facing about getting some of these “easy pve” points that don’t necessarily require masteries to begin with.
I have yet to wander into wvw and give this option a try (very low, not overly active wvw server). I don’t doubt that it’s long and tedious to do the whole spec this way, but depending on how much longer it is, yes, sure it might need some tweaking.
Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.
Where as for the proofs, the extent of your challenge is simply making sure to obtain the scroll on the right character. For certain points, the wvw method might actually be easier/faster.
I dunno about that, I spent hours in eotm this last week and came away with a piddling 8 proofs and barely any badges at all. They nerfed eotm rewards hardcore.
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Where as for the proofs, the extent of your challenge is simply making sure to obtain the scroll on the right character. For certain points, the wvw method might actually be easier/faster.
I dunno about that, I spent hours in eotm this last week and came away with a piddling 8 proofs and barely any badges at all. They nerfed eotm rewards hardcore.
And that’s the thing, you need to level twice for every trait, and 4 times for every utility. For every single character you have, where as with PvE and masteries you can just get masteries on one character, then run around with another before doing your story or whatever else floats your boat.
Why not just make Proofs of Heroics Account bound to compensate for this?
Where as for the proofs, the extent of your challenge is simply making sure to obtain the scroll on the right character. For certain points, the wvw method might actually be easier/faster.
I dunno about that, I spent hours in eotm this last week and came away with a piddling 8 proofs and barely any badges at all. They nerfed eotm rewards hardcore.
Yeah, I saw that, and I shook my head. They should have brought normal wvw rewards up to be on par with EotM. Or only nerfed them about 50% of what they did, and bumped normal wvw rewards up by 50% (split the difference, so to speak).
Sometimes I swear they want to keep wvw players poor so they won’t play that mode.
Why not just make Proofs of Heroics Account bound to compensate for this?
For all intents and purposes, I’d actually be fine with this. I can see the reasoning behind why the might not have, but that might have backfired just a tad.
Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.
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So I just finished getting my Elite fully unlocked almost exclusively through WvW. Mostly solo. I can testify that it is significantly faster to get your Elite Unlocked through PvE, especially when you have your Masteries unlocked.
There is NO logical reason to not make Proofs of Heroic account bound. Especially when you take into account that Masteries are account bound, and exponentially decrease the time it takes for a pve character to unlock their elites.
Where as for the proofs, the extent of your challenge is simply making sure to obtain the scroll on the right character. For certain points, the wvw method might actually be easier/faster.
I dunno about that, I spent hours in eotm this last week and came away with a piddling 8 proofs and barely any badges at all. They nerfed eotm rewards hardcore.
If you spent hours on EoTM and only got about 2-4 WvW ranks the commander wasn’t that great.
As someone who has gotten in excess of 250 proofs, use exp buffs. Stack them up if you can. WXP booster , birthday booster , celebration booster , guild banner, everything that boosts WXP.
I did most of them during launch weekend when all the T1 players ktrained in EBG. My alts are still working on it though.
For servers lower than T2 it is ridiculous to expect people to get 250 hero points in WvW outside of EoTM for revenant.
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For servers lower than T2 it is ridiculous to expect people to get 250 hero points in WvW outside of EoTM for revenant.
Basically this is my entire beef right here and why they need to at the very least make Proof Of Heroics account bound, so you can earn them on your main, and then just transfer them to an alt.
So I just finished getting my Elite fully unlocked almost exclusively through WvW. Mostly solo. I can testify that it is significantly faster to get your Elite Unlocked through PvE, especially when you have your Masteries unlocked.
There is NO logical reason to not make Proofs of Heroic account bound. Especially when you take into account that Masteries are account bound, and exponentially decrease the time it takes for a pve character to unlock their elites.
Yup, I completed the 9 Elites through PvE which takes around 1.5-2 hours each Elite, quicker if there are people also doing the champion points.
To spend that time in WvW just karma training would unlock a trait or two in the Elite specialisation line.
I’d say they need to make them account bound and increase the amount you receive per rank up. I have more characters I want the specs on, but I’m sick of going into PvE for them.
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I’d say they need to make them account bound and increase the amount you receive per rank up. I have more characters I want the specs on, but I’m sick of going into PvE for them.
Yeah, I recommend 4-6 per chest (since you get 2 chests) per WvW Level, and making them account bound, so you can get 1 trait per level or 1 Utility per 2 levels.
Or just give 10 Proofs of Heroic per level. Period.
I’d say they need to make them account bound and increase the amount you receive per rank up. I have more characters I want the specs on, but I’m sick of going into PvE for them.
Yeah, I recommend 4-6 per chest (since you get 2 chests) per WvW Level, and making them account bound, so you can get 1 trait per level or 1 Utility per 2 levels.
Or just give 10 Proofs of Heroic per level. Period.
10 per rank up seems fair since it takes longer to rank up in WvW than it takes to do any of the hero challenges in the HoT maps.
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10 per rank up seems fair since it takes longer to rank up in WvW than it takes to do any of the hero challenges in the HoT maps.
This. I would love to hear developer reason why this couldn’t happen.
I’d say they need to make them account bound and increase the amount you receive per rank up. I have more characters I want the specs on, but I’m sick of going into PvE for them.
Yeah, I recommend 4-6 per chest (since you get 2 chests) per WvW Level, and making them account bound, so you can get 1 trait per level or 1 Utility per 2 levels.
Or just give 10 Proofs of Heroic per level. Period.
You only get 2 chests while you have bonus chests, and to rely on them being there hurts the more active wvw players than anyone else, but just getting 10 per rank sounds perfect
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Put them in the bank, they will show up at the vendor on another character.
Put them in the bank, they will show up at the vendor on another character.
They have said this is not intentional and a bug that might get fixed, I don’t want that to happen.
Put them in the bank, they will show up at the vendor on another character.
They have said this is not intentional and a bug that might get fixed, I don’t want that to happen.
Although I suspected this, I was just trying to provide an alternative.
If / when this is patched out, I fully expect them to be traded I don’t want to see WvW players get the short end of the stick again…