I already wrote my views on this subject in another thread:
Defend events should not exist. They just result in temples being open all of the time. I would much rather see that they remove these events, and make it so that the temple cannot be defended and the risen just overrun it.
Imagine being a new player who is on his way to kill Zhaitan after completing the whole of his personal story over a month’s time. Are you going to kill the Champion Risen Giant, Champion Eye of Zhaitan, and finally the guardian of the gate that your vision from the Pale Tree foretold? Nope, cause defend events.
Might as well just retexture the entire zone now since Orr has been cleansed. The fact that the Pact now holds permanent control over all locations shows it.
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This is better than it was before. I like that the zones aren’t in a constant state of “risen have taken over all the things!” like they were.
Maybe the defend events where people are waiting on them to restart for trait points can be adjusted, but having all of the players on the same map is fantastic.
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This is better than it was before. I like that the zones aren’t in a constant state of “risen have taken over all the things!” like they were.
Maybe the defend events where people are waiting on them to restart for trait points can be adjusted, but having all of the players on the same map is fantastic.
Its more that it robs players of an experience that cannot happen anymore…
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The megaserver system is still less than a week old. As with anything new, people will flock to events and megabosses until they get tired of it and move on. Give it some time and see how it goes.
If they’re still not doable in a month, then come back and complain.
The temple defend events should be removed, it should be all a Pre-Event upon all map CS and ML like every other world boss (that we had before, because now it’s a timed … )
If not removed, Defend events should get harder each time the defend event starts so no matter how much people is there, it can fail!
Its more that it robs players of an experience that cannot happen anymore…
If we’re gonna tell it like it is, then it’s more that it robs you and the OP of your chance to get that trait without paying for it. I mean, let’s not make it about players if it’s about the trait.
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Its more that it robs players of an experience that cannot happen anymore…
If we’re gonna tell it like it is, then it’s more that it robs you and the OP of your chance to get that trait without paying for it. I mean, let’s not make it about players if it’s about the trait.
You forgot about the Daily Chest, for who is not caring about this traits and wants to do what have always done till this evil patch, do world bosses. —’
Its more that it robs players of an experience that cannot happen anymore…
If we’re gonna tell it like it is, then it’s more that it robs you and the OP of your chance to get that trait without paying for it. I mean, let’s not make it about players if it’s about the trait.
I never said anything about any trait, especially since I just purchase them. I actually care about the experience of the game and when it is being harmed.
Just adding the trait to the defend event will not restore it.
Tell me, would you like to see all events in maps completed at all times, and run around for hours with nothing to do because its all done?
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There are some people that deliberately troll by doing the defend events, knowing full well that it will keep the boss from spawning. The fact that it’s even possible for trolls to stop world bosses from spawning – something most of us would like to happen, as many used to kill them daily pre-patch – is a serious flaw in the way they rolled this megaserver thing out.
I don’t have a problem with Orr being more populated. I do have a problem with temple event chains never happening. These defend events should not keep temple bosses from spawning. This is utter bullkitten.
I never said anything about any trait, especially since I just purchase them. I actually care about the experience of the game and when it is being harmed.
That’s fair, but the assumption that it’s about rewards is fair too, imo. I would rather the zones be like they are now than be like they were before: completely, utterly dead with everything crawling with Risen, except for an hour after the daily reset in which people took the temples only.
Let’s get constructive. Instead of defend events for things that people need to attack for their rewards, how about evac events? Group event to escort the Pact forces out of the temple area, and if successful, immediately launches back into an assault to retake the temple? That would seem to accommodate the zone population’s needs during peak hours, and if the event fails then the chain starts over like normal.
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I already wrote my views on this subject in another thread:
Defend events should not exist. They just result in temples being open all of the time. I would much rather see that they remove these events, and make it so that the temple cannot be defended and the risen just overrun it.
Imagine being a new player who is on his way to kill Zhaitan after completing the whole of his personal story over a month’s time. Are you going to kill the Champion Risen Giant, Champion Eye of Zhaitan, and finally the guardian of the gate that your vision from the Pale Tree foretold? Nope, cause defend events.
Might as well just retexture the entire zone now since Orr has been cleansed. The fact that the Pact now holds permanent control over all locations shows it.
Or why not have the events get harder and require more organisation the more they’re completed in succession?
For example, the event gets completed, say, 3 times, and then the event spawns a mob / mobs that a) prevent people from respawning [until they’re killed] and b) cause mobs to spawn from defeated players? That event gets completed successfully, then they bring in a Champion to defend said mob.
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I’ve never seen people defending temples before that update. While you can understand people defending Grenth’s Temple or Arah’s gate, for the new GM trait because it’s easier/faster, there is no point in defending Lyssa’s Temple.
Defend events are scaling with every subsequent activation which means eventually every temple defense event will fail. Its usually the second or third activation which is capable of beating any number of people defending.
You know what would be a really simple solution to this would be?
Change the defend events to include the world boss.
World boss has to come from somewhere, right? Why should a temple fall to a bunch of minions and suddenly have a boss pop up out of nowhere? The invasion should be lead by a boss who then takes up residence in his/her new digs, atop a throne of dead defenders. People get to fight the world boss regardless of whether the temple is contested or not, defend missions actually become difficult, and the boss’ presence is now explained. It’s a win-win-win!
The megaserver system is still less than a week old. As with anything new, people will flock to events and megabosses until they get tired of it and move on. Give it some time and see how it goes.
If they’re still not doable in a month, then come back and complain.
I have yet to see anything that says that the Temple of Lyssa is on a Megaserver. Why are you bringing up megaservers, they have nothing to do with the Temple of Lyssa.
The megaserver system is still less than a week old. As with anything new, people will flock to events and megabosses until they get tired of it and move on. Give it some time and see how it goes.
If they’re still not doable in a month, then come back and complain.
I have yet to see anything that says that the Temple of Lyssa is on a Megaserver. Why are you bringing up megaservers, they have nothing to do with the Temple of Lyssa.
Um… the only reason there would be enough people on a map to consistently complete the defend events would be if Malchor’s Leap was a megaserver zone now. Just because there’s no official post to say so, does not mean that zone isnt a part of the megaserver. This is no different than you claiming stealth nerfs dont happen.
lol, it used to be QQ about people not completing events and now it’s QQ about people actually completing an event. Excuse me while I get a tissue.
I do like Pandaman’s idea, having a boss (and daily chest) for the defend event as well would be a win fort everyone.
The issue is that most temples (or all of them) do not work the same way as Gates of Arah, where if you succeed the defend event, it triggers the rest of the chain (by taking the place of the escort/reclamation event) and then you go on to fight the risen high wizard. Instead, if you succeed the temple defend event, that’s the end of it. It would be much simpler to change the defend events so that they take place X distance (or at a Pact location nearby) from where the priest/priestess actually spawns, so that the risen claim the actual temple whether or not you succeed. This would then mean you can push to the Temple itself and kill the priest(ess) again for the trait.
lol, it used to be QQ about people not completing events and now it’s QQ about people actually completing an event. Excuse me while I get a tissue.
I do like Pandaman’s idea, having a boss (and daily chest) for the defend event as well would be a win fort everyone.
The issue is that most temples (or all of them) do not work the same way as Gates of Arah, where if you succeed the defend event, it triggers the rest of the chain (by taking the place of the escort/reclamation event) and then you go on to fight the risen high wizard. Instead, if you succeed the temple defend event, that’s the end of it. It would be much simpler to change the defend events so that they take place X distance (or at a Pact location nearby) from where the priest/priestess actually spawns, so that the risen claim the actual temple whether or not you succeed. This would then mean you can push to the Temple itself and kill the priest(ess) again for the trait.
Why not just have a seperate boss (the priest(ess)‘s general or something ) invading the temple with his army for the priest(ess). It would give us something new to fight, event farmers will get their chest, and the temple stays open and nobody needs to listen to Malchor’s whining anymore (big win!!).
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The megaserver system is still less than a week old. As with anything new, people will flock to events and megabosses until they get tired of it and move on. Give it some time and see how it goes.
If they’re still not doable in a month, then come back and complain.
I have yet to see anything that says that the Temple of Lyssa is on a Megaserver. Why are you bringing up megaservers, they have nothing to do with the Temple of Lyssa.
Malchor’s is a megaserver now.
Go there and ask in map chat what server is everyone from. :P
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All temples are now trollable, no matter what server mega or otherwise… people defend just because they were asked not. Imo a silly way to implement traits.
Btw the way I brought them on my main im not wasting gold on alts.
The megaserver system is still less than a week old. As with anything new, people will flock to events and megabosses until they get tired of it and move on. Give it some time and see how it goes.
If they’re still not doable in a month, then come back and complain.
This please, patience is a virtue
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The megaserver system is still less than a week old. As with anything new, people will flock to events and megabosses until they get tired of it and move on. Give it some time and see how it goes.
If they’re still not doable in a month, then come back and complain.
This please, patience is a virtue
My patience is running out with the spastic crap from Anet we’re dealing with. Honestly, temples not proceeding to the boss are the least of my problems currently, because I cant do daily achievements (they dont show up), cant do meta bosses (reward chest never resets), cant do dungeons (reward chests and boss chests dont reset), cant do fractals (cant get end rewards), and I cant do T7 refinements (timer rolls over to 24 hours automatically).
I’m basically done playing until anet fixes this kitten.
A couple of days ago someone (or some persons) stayed at/near Grenth almost all day long (on CD), just silently defending it to keep it from opening again. To make it worse, this was before they changed it to where you could get that Trait by doing the defense event, as well. Trolls love to troll.
All maps are now megaservers,
Make all Ruins of Orr temple defend events fail.
that way the farmers have a shot at defending, and those that want to do the capture event can do the capture.
You know what would be a really simple solution to this would be?
Change the defend events to include the world boss.
World boss has to come from somewhere, right? Why should a temple fall to a bunch of minions and suddenly have a boss pop up out of nowhere? The invasion should be lead by a boss who then takes up residence in his/her new digs, atop a throne of dead defenders. People get to fight the world boss regardless of whether the temple is contested or not, defend missions actually become difficult, and the boss’ presence is now explained. It’s a win-win-win!
My solution: For every time the defense is successful, the next one has two times as many mobs until the camp get’s totally over run. After one successful defense, the world boss will appear during the defend event just to make it feel climactic.
No one can do Temple of Lyssa now because it is defended all the time.
Get it sorted so people have a choice
Oh wow I never even thought of this. Events that require you to defend and succeed or fail… if you fail it spawns the ‘recapture’ chain of events. With mega servers, those chains will be few and far between.
Was ANY thought put into this? At all?
Ready when its ready, eh?
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My solution: For every time the defense is successful, the next one has two times as many mobs until the camp get’s totally over run. After one successful defense, the world boss will appear during the defend event just to make it feel climactic.
Nice idea but sick of the stupid situational requirements, ideas, restrictions, whatever…its a complete kittenhole mess that arneanet made. Why patch up a pile of kitten with a bandage?
My solution is to shovel the pile of crap into the neighbors yard, tell him you did so and apologize. Then figure out a solution that doesn’t leave crap on your yard.
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All temples are now trollable, no matter what server mega or otherwise… people defend just because they were asked not. Imo a silly way to implement traits.
Btw the way I brought them on my main im not wasting gold on alts.
This was happening with Lyssa last night. Even worse, some player was telling people that they had to defend in order for Lyssa to appear. Of course then map chat devolved into “x is trolling!” “No, you!” And Lyssa never spawned…
Something related that I noticed for the first time yesterday is that if you see that a temple event is up and want to switch toons and do it with a different one, it can be rather difficult now. You switch toons but then when you map, it is to a different server where the event isn’t up. Or am I missing something? This is aside from the already known issue that all WP’s are contested so you have to pay to map to the zone you want, then either pay to map again or run across the map to get to the event you want to do. I like megaservers and think they have improved open world play, but there are still some issues. :-(
