Guild Wars 2

The initial charge to sell on the tp needs to stop. I hate throwing away gold to put something up again that didn’t sell. Charge me when it sold, not to list.

One reason the charge exists it to prevent that you use the TP to store items, by listing them with a very high sell price.

Magnus Godrik.5841:

The initial charge to sell on the tp needs to stop. I hate throwing away gold to put something up again that didn’t sell. Charge me when it sold, not to list.

So it’s working as intended?

Great.

There is a reason for the charge, you not accepting or agreeing to this reason does not disqualify it.

As noted above, not having the charge makes it easy to use the TP as your personal storage. Someone, for example, could list thousands of stacks of mats at an unsaleable price free of charge and store them that way. To get them back, just cancel the posting.

Another reason is to make sure people don’t constantly relist an item in order to ‘undercut’ sell listings at no penalty. This way people have to think about the price they pick for their listing. On top of that this also makes the profit margin of TP flipping smaller, but that’s more of a side-effect than a reason. Not to mention it drains gold out of the game to make sure prices of items don’t rise to abnormal values.

Yes, it stops it from being storage and also functions as a gold sink to prevent further inflation.

it shouldn’t charge u for choosing the highest buy offer. technically u aren’t listing it for sell, u are directly selling it, it never gets listed. so remove that 5% for not listing but for selling direct

Sorry, i never thought players would abuse the tp for that.

Yep as others have said, they don’t want people using the bank as a personal storage device. It also encourages sellers to be competitive which is good for buyers.

Jaxom.7310:

it shouldn’t charge u for choosing the highest buy offer. technically u aren’t listing it for sell, u are directly selling it, it never gets listed. so remove that 5% for not listing but for selling direct

That would steadily drive prices down if people who are willing to price higher and wait get penalized while those who sell at the current lowest price get a better deal.

Magnus Godrik.5841:

Sorry, i never thought players would abuse the tp for that.

Players will abuse any and every thing to their advantage.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Jaxom.7310:

it shouldn’t charge u for choosing the highest buy offer. technically u aren’t listing it for sell, u are directly selling it, it never gets listed. so remove that 5% for not listing but for selling direct

That would steadily drive prices down if people who are willing to price higher and wait get penalized while those who sell at the current lowest price get a better deal.

tru up to a pt where that 5% is balanced out by the diff between highest buyer and lowest seller. but it would reward people to paid the attention +time to fig the best deal.

also it’d make more people willing to sell to the buy offer, rite neow i almost never do cause its usu not worth it, but if i git to save a lil monies, i mite

DarcShriek.5829:

Magnus Godrik.5841:

Sorry, i never thought players would abuse the tp for that.

Players will abuse any and every thing to their advantage.

This.^^

(And note how I abused the reply feature to my advantage just to say this.)

Jaxom.7310:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Jaxom.7310:

it shouldn’t charge u for choosing the highest buy offer. technically u aren’t listing it for sell, u are directly selling it, it never gets listed. so remove that 5% for not listing but for selling direct

That would steadily drive prices down if people who are willing to price higher and wait get penalized while those who sell at the current lowest price get a better deal.

tru up to a pt where that 5% is balanced out by the diff between highest buyer and lowest seller. but it would reward people to paid the attention +time to fig the best deal.

also it’d make more people willing to sell to the buy offer, rite neow i almost never do cause its usu not worth it, but if i git to save a lil monies, i mite

5% versus 15% difference? That extra 10% over time adds up to quite a bite. Every item sold at a higher price would need to be priced to account for that extra 10% charge that the “sell to lowest price” wouldn’t have to pay. Most people would be unwilling to take that extra 10% loss or to spend time figuring it out, and would sell at lowest, driving the prices down. Good for buyers. Bad for sellers.

Halan.7931:

And what if a poor person gets a lucky drop that he doesn’t need, but it would cost him like fifty gold to list? Does he need to save money just to sell it?

Yesterday a member of my guild directly sold a precursor through mail to another guildie, just to avoid listing fee.

Yes. He needs to either save up or borrow the gold. Just because the items is high priced doesn’t exempt it from the rules. The TP is also a scam safe way to sell things. If his guildie had kept the item and the gold he would have lost 100% of the sale, not just 15%.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Jaxom.7310:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Jaxom.7310:

it shouldn’t charge u for choosing the highest buy offer. technically u aren’t listing it for sell, u are directly selling it, it never gets listed. so remove that 5% for not listing but for selling direct

That would steadily drive prices down if people who are willing to price higher and wait get penalized while those who sell at the current lowest price get a better deal.

tru up to a pt where that 5% is balanced out by the diff between highest buyer and lowest seller. but it would reward people to paid the attention +time to fig the best deal.

also it’d make more people willing to sell to the buy offer, rite neow i almost never do cause its usu not worth it, but if i git to save a lil monies, i mite

5% versus 15% difference? That extra 10% over time adds up to quite a bite. Every item sold at a higher price would need to be priced to account for that extra 10% charge that the “sell to lowest price” wouldn’t have to pay. Most people would be unwilling to take that extra 10% loss or to spend time figuring it out, and would sell at lowest, driving the prices down. Good for buyers. Bad for sellers.

i agree. and i’d be ok w/ that. the whole tp setup is already seller biased. in <10 secs u can see what the lowest price is and just drop yours by a copper and now u are in front of the sell line.

Jaxom.7310:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Jaxom.7310:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Jaxom.7310:

it shouldn’t charge u for choosing the highest buy offer. technically u aren’t listing it for sell, u are directly selling it, it never gets listed. so remove that 5% for not listing but for selling direct

That would steadily drive prices down if people who are willing to price higher and wait get penalized while those who sell at the current lowest price get a better deal.

tru up to a pt where that 5% is balanced out by the diff between highest buyer and lowest seller. but it would reward people to paid the attention +time to fig the best deal.

also it’d make more people willing to sell to the buy offer, rite neow i almost never do cause its usu not worth it, but if i git to save a lil monies, i mite

5% versus 15% difference? That extra 10% over time adds up to quite a bite. Every item sold at a higher price would need to be priced to account for that extra 10% charge that the “sell to lowest price” wouldn’t have to pay. Most people would be unwilling to take that extra 10% loss or to spend time figuring it out, and would sell at lowest, driving the prices down. Good for buyers. Bad for sellers.

i agree. and i’d be ok w/ that. the whole tp setup is already seller biased. in <10 secs u can see what the lowest price is and just drop yours by a copper and now u are in front of the sell line.

Let’s say you’re selling a lot of different items. That’s 10 seconds. And then 10 seconds and then 10 seconds and then 10 seconds…..

It all adds up, all that extra time to figure out how much extra to list it for just to break even. Most people aren’t going to take that extra time to calculate that extra cost then list it for that extra amount plus more to make a profit. No. Most will sell to the lowest price and as each person does that the prices inexorably drop.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Jaxom.7310:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Jaxom.7310:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Jaxom.7310:

it shouldn’t charge u for choosing the highest buy offer. technically u aren’t listing it for sell, u are directly selling it, it never gets listed. so remove that 5% for not listing but for selling direct

That would steadily drive prices down if people who are willing to price higher and wait get penalized while those who sell at the current lowest price get a better deal.

tru up to a pt where that 5% is balanced out by the diff between highest buyer and lowest seller. but it would reward people to paid the attention +time to fig the best deal.

also it’d make more people willing to sell to the buy offer, rite neow i almost never do cause its usu not worth it, but if i git to save a lil monies, i mite

5% versus 15% difference? That extra 10% over time adds up to quite a bite. Every item sold at a higher price would need to be priced to account for that extra 10% charge that the “sell to lowest price” wouldn’t have to pay. Most people would be unwilling to take that extra 10% loss or to spend time figuring it out, and would sell at lowest, driving the prices down. Good for buyers. Bad for sellers.

i agree. and i’d be ok w/ that. the whole tp setup is already seller biased. in <10 secs u can see what the lowest price is and just drop yours by a copper and now u are in front of the sell line.

Let’s say you’re selling a lot of different items. That’s 10 seconds. And then 10 seconds and then 10 seconds and then 10 seconds…..

It all adds up, all that extra time to figure out how much extra to list it for just to break even. Most people aren’t going to take that extra time to calculate that extra cost then list it for that extra amount plus more to make a profit. No. Most will sell to the lowest price and as each person does that the prices inexorably drop.

right, i agree almost completely. only diff is i think its a good thang, u think its a baddie, so is wat it is

saturn.4810:

One reason the charge exists it to prevent that you use the TP to store items, by listing them with a very high sell price.

Unless, of course, it was reversed – and you are only charged (a higher rate than now) if you remove the item from its listing. Would make more sense, in my opinion. Tax on sales could still be a thing, but that’s a very high tax at the moment, especially since it goes to NPCs, who are usually pretty happy just to buy complete junk from players (yay, our tax money’s being used to buy our trophy/junk items).

Jaxom.7310:

it shouldn’t charge u for choosing the highest buy offer. technically u aren’t listing it for sell, u are directly selling it, it never gets listed. so remove that 5% for not listing but for selling direct

Especially since GW2 doesn’t have a messaging system like Elder Scrolls Online, where you can sell items directly via message – and the message requires the recipient to pay before he/she can take the items out of the delivery.

Magnus Godrik.5841:

Sorry, i never thought players would abuse the tp for that.

Oh yeah, I used to do it with silk and leather when they were very cheap. Cost nothing to store it all. And then I logged on one day to find it had all been sold and I had a bunch of gold waiting for me.