Guild Wars 2

I don’t know how many of you played Dark Age of Camelot (DAOC), but they had a dungeon called Darkness Falls. It was a PvP dungeon that was accessed from PvE. For the people who did not play DAOC. DOAC had 3 realms that fought each other in WvWvW (think of it as the 3 servers that battle each other each week in WvWvW). Whichever realm controlled the most castles, keeps, etc in WvWvW also controlled access to this dungeon called Darkness Falls. However, when control of the entrance to Darkness Falls flipped and changed to a different realm the current players that were playing in the dungeon were not removed. They were welcome to say and continue to quest, kill stuff, farm, etc. But the other realm (the ones that just took control of darkness falls) could come in and kill them. If you died in darkness falls and your realm (side/server) did not control WvWvW you were not allowed back in.

The key points

• Must fight to control WvWvW to gain access
• 3 separate entrances for each of the 3 servers.
• Can kill players from other server in dungeon, while also avoiding, killing NPC’s
• A good place to explore and farm crafting mats (something to drive people to the dungeon)
• Some big rewarding boss fights in the lower portions of the dungeon.
• Special merchants that have Darkness Falls only items.

What is everyone’s thoughts?

I know that I would have a problem with this. My server (Borlis Pass) would pretty much never be able to go into the dungeon. I agree we need more dungeons, but not ones that combine different game modes.

isn’t that what the jumping puzzle obsidian sanctum is for?

Can never happen in this game where people complain they have to do WvW to get legendary weapons and map completion.

The QQ would been on a whole new level.

BigfootArisen.6509:

I know that I would have a problem with this. My server (Borlis Pass) would pretty much never be able to go into the dungeon. I agree we need more dungeons, but not ones that combine different game modes.

Yeah, the mechanics that cause you to gain access to the dungeon could of course be different. Perhaps it looks at not just WvWvW but other parts of the game, such as hearts completed or something.

Not for me but I think many servers could stand with an option for cross server LFG autoteam feature.

When Mythic put DF in months after DAoC’s release they “made” the game.

Would I love to see DF again? Yes! Where? Not in this game.

ANet has already demonstrated they do not support WvW. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe whatever employee was responsible for deriving WvW from DAoC’s RvR is no longer at ANet. I personally would not trust ANet to get anything as complicated as DF done in a reasonably working manner (and a pale imitation would be painful.)

The impetus that DF provided (good leveling, raid bosses, gear, farming, economy) would not have the same value in this game.

GW2 has two other things that would defeat the entire concept inherent in DF: Megaserver and Guesting.

Love the concept. Miss the fun. Don’t believe it could work in GW2.

In CU, heck yes. I believe that’s already a consideration.

PS: Lol@the thought that OS is similar to DF.

goldenwing.8473:

ANet has already demonstrated they do not support WvW. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe whatever employee was responsible for deriving WvW from DAoC’s RvR is no longer at ANet. I personally would not trust ANet to get anything as complicated as DF done in a reasonably working manner (and a pale imitation would be painful.)

In CU, heck yes. I believe that’s already a consideration.

Completely agree. Players looking for quality RvR/WvW style gameplay will always be disappointed in GW2. It’s simply not given enough priority and resources. I don’t expect any major WvW content or upgrades for years. We’ll see a few tweaks but what we currently have in GW2 is it.

Thank goodness we have some games coming out next year that will focus primarily on RvR/WvW.