Guild Wars 2

I’ve been trying to do the Evolved Jungle Worm Boss event to get the achievements on it, but there are hardly any people doing it and so it fail and fail over and over again. From what I have seen of the event it’s rather hard compared to all the other bosses and I’d like to suggest it be nerfed a bit. When events like this one fail over and over again, then people lose interest in doing it and then those that want to get the achievements on it suffer from it.

Please do a workover on the event and make the event a bit easier so that it doesn’t have such a high chance of failing.

Depending on if you are on NA servers or EU or others, there are multiple guilds that do Triple Trouble at least 3 or 4 times a week. EVOS does it almost,if not, everyday. TTS might too. Try looking 2 to 3 hours after reset at the LFG under World Bosses.

Hope this helps. Have a good day.

Op, what time do you usually play? NA or EU? This is a stretch but if you can get on at reset, there is always a group doing it. If you look in the lfg under World Bosses at about 30min past reset you will find “Post Reset TT” (TT stands for Triple Trouble), join that squad and jump to their map. They are really helpful with achievements and the boss gets done every single day.

Also #slowbalt #amBURN :P

If you are on EU servers there are a couple of communities that do organised runs daily, often they will go around maps and post in map chat about it about an hour before to give notice. It is normally best to join their teamspeak to be sure you jump or can taxi into the correct map, they don’t always show on lfg as it’s better if people are on teamspeak for instructions. I’ve run with them quite a few times and they have an extremely high success rate, got all my achieves that way.

I personally like it how it is and don’t think it needs a nerf, it just needs a organisation and people to understand how the event works, if those criteria are met then chances of success are pretty high.

The main reason for fail maps is because most randoms either don’t understand the event mechanics, or don’t work together / listen to anyone trying to organise things.

The other problem is lots of people don’t realise you need to really get into a map early to open squads etc to get people in and organise it, too many think they can turn up 5-10 mins before and taxi people in, but that’s just too late.

Open community run it once or twice a day on the EU. They have voice chat to get you in easily since they have ways to get their own map, but you can sometimes get in by luck or lfg.

Randulf.7614:

Open community run it once or twice a day on the EU. They have voice chat to get you in easily since they have ways to get their own map, but you can sometimes get in by luck or lfg.

I think that’s who I normally join when I do the event, they all seem really great people and it’s always a nice relaxed and fun run (normally successful too). Also if anyone is shy, don’t be put off by the mention of voice chat or teamspeak, as you don’t have to talk if you don’t want to, it’s mainly so you can listen to the comms instructions and things can be organised better

Please, please don’t make it easier, this is one of the few world bosses / meta’s that takes organization. I get you want to go after the achievement OP but does it strike you that just cause it’s not easy enough for you and then you ask for anet to make it easier so you can get it That there something wrong with that? Not all achievements are made to be roll over in pve. In fact this world boss isn’t that hard when you get an organized group together. As previously stated by others above this post, there are dedicated guilds that do this world boss and are happy to teach others. I like having at least a few open world things that are a bit difficult. I’m not asking for impossible or the percentage of ‘hard’ content to be increased, but please don’t get rid of it all together. That would just sad.

I thought there needed to be a voice from the other side on this.

Ah I see.. So it’s either team up with strangers, or GTFO, I guess it’s the latter then, or just hope for a lucky break. sigh

I’m of the opinion that, if tactical coordination to the degree it is on this boss event isn’t required on the other boss events, then it shouldn’t be required on this either. Maybe what the game really needs is a tactical mode, so that those that like that can get that type of game play. I’m not saying the boss events should be easy, in fact many of them could use a work over, more randomness and higher difficulty to them would be nice. Most of the bosses feel way too streamlined. All I’m asking for is that this boss event is dimmed down, just a little bit on the difficulty at each worm site.

Yes you will need to team up with strangers to do a World Boss. That is how it is. Many many groups run it, NA has a group for almost every timeslot now and you can just join them off LFG.

If you nerf Triple Trouble half the people who organise it will stop doing it because we enjoy the organisation aspect to this world boss. It’s something you can’t find anywhere else in game. No other map needs 100+ people all working together in sync with each other doing mechanics to successfully complete it. It’s not actually a difficult boss especially with power creep, the difficulty comes from people just not knowing what to do, not listening to commanders and finding ways to recover when something goes slightly wrong.

kimtingen.6472:

Ah I see.. So it’s either team up with strangers, or GTFO

What’s so bad with teaming up with strangers? What do you expect, to solo the boss with your party? Literally every world boss is technically teaming up with strangers. But guess what even if you don’t want to team up with strangers, Triple Trouble is also a Guild World Event! So that means you can take your guild of non strangers and go to the map and the activate the event for your guild to do! Good Luck!

Seriously, why even play an mmo if you don’t enjoy teaming up with strangers?

kimtingen.6472:

Ah I see.. So it’s either team up with strangers, or GTFO, I guess it’s the latter then, or just hope for a lucky break. sigh

I’m of the opinion that, if tactical coordination to the degree it is on this boss event isn’t required on the other boss events, then it shouldn’t be required on this either. Maybe what the game really needs is a tactical mode, so that those that like that can get that type of game play. I’m not saying the boss events should be easy, in fact many of them could use a work over, more randomness and higher difficulty to them would be nice. Most of the bosses feel way too streamlined. All I’m asking for is that this boss event is dimmed down, just a little bit on the difficulty at each worm site.

Ummm, just to clarify you’re saying that you wouldn’t want to join an organised map because of teaming up with random strangers? What so you know every single random person in an unorganised map?! All world bosses are working with strangers! In fact a lot of metas are too! Seriously what’s next, you expect to solo all three lanes on Dragons Stand?

Also you say because coordination isn’t need on other world bosses, it shouldn’t be on this one, there is a thing called having variety and different challenges!

killermanjaro.5670:

Ummm, just to clarify you’re saying that you wouldn’t want to join an organised map because of teaming up with random strangers? What so you know every single random person in an unorganised map?! All world bosses are working with strangers! In fact a lot of metas are too! Seriously what’s next, you expect to solo all three lanes on Dragons Stand?

Also you say because coordination isn’t need on other world bosses, it shouldn’t be on this one, there is a thing called having variety and different challenges!

As usual.. There’s always those that misunderstand, trying reading it again and this time look at “teaming up” as “partying up” As in joining a party.

And NO! I do not expect to soloing any of the bosses! But maybe you should take your time to read my previous post instead of skimming through it and perhaps think a little before you post, hm?
I did point out that the other world bosses are too streamlined and lack randomness and I also said they could be more difficult. They could certainly use some random elements to freshen them up and make things more interesting and difficult, and IMHTGO difficulty on all world bosses SHOULD scale with amount of players taking part in it, But that being said, there have to be a bottom line of how many is required to succede.
As for variety… Randomness give you just that.

On EU servers there’s 2 communities that run them daily and then on NA there’s 1 straight after reset and then sporadic runs afterwards pending on numbers/organisation turnouts

kimtingen.6472:

killermanjaro.5670:

Ummm, just to clarify you’re saying that you wouldn’t want to join an organised map because of teaming up with random strangers? What so you know every single random person in an unorganised map?! All world bosses are working with strangers! In fact a lot of metas are too! Seriously what’s next, you expect to solo all three lanes on Dragons Stand?

Also you say because coordination isn’t need on other world bosses, it shouldn’t be on this one, there is a thing called having variety and different challenges!

As usual.. There’s always those that misunderstand, trying reading it again and this time look at “teaming up” as “partying up” As in joining a party.

And NO! I do not expect to soloing any of the bosses! But maybe you should take your time to read my previous post instead of skimming through it and perhaps think a little before you post, hm?
I did point out that the other world bosses are too streamlined and lack randomness and I also said they could be more difficult. They could certainly use some random elements to freshen them up and make things more interesting and difficult, and IMHTGO difficulty on all world bosses SHOULD scale with amount of players taking part in it, But that being said, there have to be a bottom line of how many is required to succede.
As for variety… Randomness give you just that.

Literally the only interaction with other people is joining the squad from the LFG to get on the same map. Once on the map, drop squad and you can go solo the entire time. Just a note tho, you will miss the boss instructions as well as call outs. So either follow the tag and do what they do or get ready to be yelled at for doing the wrong thing at the wrong time (because the commanders usually give directions in squad chat). Every day when I jump on the reset map, there is always tons of people not in squad doing their own thing and following the zerg.

UrMom.4205:

Every day when I jump on the reset map, there is always tons of people not in squad doing their own thing and following the zerg.

And from a commander’s point of view this isn’t the ideal situation. The main reason for squads is to have a direct line of communication for when things go wrong. While it doesn’t go wrong at Post Reset very often… it does happen. We have actually planned a lot of our strategies around people just not listening and joining squads thus why you barely see it go wrong even with a lot out of squad.

Had a situation where we had to call off the decap sync completely recently and without a direct line of communication with the zerg someone would have decap’d and the entire event would have failed unless we pulled some last minute magic. Thankfully that day we had a very good group of people who listened to our commanders well, without everyone in squads following the commander’s calls it could have gone badly.

I understand where OP is coming from. In the sense that I understand that you’ve discovered Triple Trouble the way most of the player base does.

Currently every world boss in the game except Triple Trouble has a well functioning Pug meta. And by that I mean any number of complete randoms can show up, and it is very rare that the event will fail, mostly because of the actions of the experienced player base.

So most players have learned to just join the world bosses off of the world boss timer 3-5 minutes before the event is listed to start. I myself did this when I first started playing again mid 2015. And as expected, I rocked up at the listed waypoint with 40 other people and just followed the largest group. The end result? The wurm site became so locked down with adds that everyone gave up even trying to reclaim it, we were unable to achieve even 1 burn.

This is because Triple Trouble is misunderstood, and the fight was the closest thing the game had to raids before actual raids happened. And this is why you only ever see the event completed by actual guilds or community groups with dedicated players who have an enormous amount of experience with the fight.

That being said if Anet ever felt the need to give Triple Trouble a polishing I can only suggest the follow:
-Fix the issues with server lag causing attacks to fall out of sync with their animations (Sometimes by 2 full seconds)
-Fix the despawn timers on the kegs at cobalt, which do not vanish after 20 kegs have been successfully placed. This issue causes future kegs to despawn 1 second after placement.

Those 2 points are really the only issues mechanically with the fight. The rest comes down to the fact the community just has not developed the raw understanding for 120 strangers to show up and beat the event. Even Dragonstand, Tangled depths and Tarir took a few weeks before enough experienced players surfaced. And in every one of these events a commander will usually explain the mechanics of these events on principle.

So if you want truly want Triple Trouble to get easier, convince more people to participate in it, and step up to key roles.

kimtingen.6472:

As usual.. There’s always those that misunderstand, trying reading it again and this time look at “teaming up” as “partying up” As in joining a party.

And NO! I do not expect to soloing any of the bosses! But maybe you should take your time to read my previous post instead of skimming through it and perhaps think a little before you post, hm?
I did point out that the other world bosses are too streamlined and lack randomness and I also said they could be more difficult. They could certainly use some random elements to freshen them up and make things more interesting and difficult, and IMHTGO difficulty on all world bosses SHOULD scale with amount of players taking part in it, But that being said, there have to be a bottom line of how many is required to succede.
As for variety… Randomness give you just that.

Weather you word it as teaming up or partying up, it’s the same thing, these events you are working with other players, the only difference with partying / squading up is clicking join squad on an lfg, once you’re in it there isn’t any difference to having to interact with strangers if you don’t want to. If for some reason you really don’t want to stay in the squad then leave once you’re in, though as others have mentioned staying in the squad is more helpful for the comms and for the odds of the event succeeding.

Hence why in part I used DS as a mention, realistically you need to join a squad via lfg to find a map that has a chance of success, so in that regard it’s no different to the TT event.

And no, I didn’t skim over your message, yes other world bosses could be made more challenging, and have more mechanics etc, which would be nice. I understand what you are saying in that other world bosses could have some more challenging mechanics etc which would give variety, and yes it would give a bit more. But then you are saying your definition of variety should be limited to just that, and shouldn’t extend to having at least one world boss that requires an organised effort.

kimtingen.6472:

I’m of the opinion that, if tactical coordination to the degree it is on this boss event isn’t required on the other boss events, then it shouldn’t be required on this either.

That’s your mistake right there. Comparing Triple Trouble to other world bosses. As it’s not a standard world boss. It’s more comparable to an open world raid. Originally when TT came out, days went by before anyone could clear it. It was designed to be challenging content for people looking for a challenge. Imagine fighting Shadow Behemoth, Shatterer and Claw of Jormag at the same time, and then you have a comparison.

Yannir.4132:

kimtingen.6472:

I’m of the opinion that, if tactical coordination to the degree it is on this boss event isn’t required on the other boss events, then it shouldn’t be required on this either.

That’s your mistake right there. Comparing Triple Trouble to other world bosses. As it’s not a standard world boss. It’s more comparable to an open world raid. Originally when TT came out, days went by before anyone could clear it. It was designed to be challenging content for people looking for a challenge. Imagine fighting Shadow Behemoth, Shatterer and Claw of Jormag at the same time, and then you have a comparison.

Open World Raid sounds like a good description for this event and I think a lot of frustration could be avoided if Anet labeled it as such.

In the past I had joined a few pug-attempts but it soon became clear that this event was the odd one out, and I just left it alone. Untill I needed the Mastery points, which is when I started to investigate the event further.

I found a german community who hosts this event on a regular basis. All you need to do is join their Teamspeak and listen closely to the instructions. I am not in a Guild myself, nor do I like to group up for dungeons and such, but they make it very easy and it’s fun to participate, especially when you are finally finishing the event succesfully. They also give clear instructions on how and when to get certain achievements. Very cool.

I joined them 4 or 5 times, covering all three Heads and achievements.

TS: gw2ts.de

NB, when I did this with them, their TS was in English and so were all instructions, not sure if they still do that since the TS page now seems to be all in German.
Anyway, they do the Wurm event every tuesday at 20.15 eurotime(or maybe every day even ), probably need to connect to TS a bit earliler then that.

I have on occasion just stood by and just watched the events, and if you pick Triple Trouble a part, then it’s no different from the other world bosses, it’s streamlined and lack random events within the event that can make them harder. The only real difference between Triple Trouble and the rest of them is that there need to be enough people on each of the sites for it to succeed, because when it comes down to it it’s just a normal world boss that run on multiple sites, that’s the only aspect of coordination I see on the main event. But when you get down to the fighting it’s still as streamlined as the rest of them, people know where to do what and when to do it. Random events within the main event would help spice things up.
I know I said I wanted Triple Trouble to be made easier, I’m trying not contradicting myself here when I say I want it to be harder too. I mean that having random events within the main event will make it less streamlined and make it more difficult, and not just for Triple Trouble, but for all of the bosses. At the same time I would like to see scaled difficulty on all of them, meaning a large group would find it just as hard as a small group would and with random events it would give both large and small groups the same risk at it failing. It’s that “WTF!” surprise aspect that’s missing from all of them.

As for EU and NA.. It should be pretty obviously where I am, this is the EU forum, isn’kitten If I were playing on the NA servers I would likely post on the NA forum, wouldn’t I? Anyway.. I play at whatever time I am awake and my time zone is central EU time.

kimtingen.6472:

As for EU and NA.. It should be pretty obviously where I am, this is the EU forum, isn’kitten If I were playing on the NA servers I would likely post on the NA forum, wouldn’t I? Anyway.. I play at whatever time I am awake and my time zone is central EU time.

No, there isn’t an EU forum. The forum is divided by language, English being the most general one.

Tanner Blackfeather.6509:

No, there isn’t an EU forum. The forum is divided by language, English being the most general one.

Ah, thank you.

If you’re EU, I recommend GW2 Community. Here’s their events list:

http://gw2community.com/calendar/

They have a Teamspeak server going, which you’ll get the info for before they start a TT run, and then you simply have to listen to their instructions. They’re absolutely fantastic, efficient, clear to understand and a whole heap of fun. Without them, I would never have gotten the TT masteries (let alone all the associated achievements). And I’ll be honest: I don’t particularly enjoy teaming up with others, if I don’t know them. But here, if you bite the bullet, you don’t need to talk, just listen and you’ll get through TT and have fun whilst doing it. There’s definitely something to be said for enjoying a fully co-ordinated open-world raid-like experience.

TT is the hardest open world event there is, and is designed to be so. You don’t technically need to do it if joining others isn’t your thing - but it’s actually not so hard to do when you run with an experienced command crew like GW2 Community. So I urge you to put any doubts aside, and just try to catch up with the Community for a TT run.

Good luck with it!

Ceridwen.6703:

If you’re EU, I recommend GW2 Community. Here’s their events list:

http://gw2community.com/calendar/

They have a Teamspeak server going, which you’ll get the info for before they start a TT run, and then you simply have to listen to their instructions. They’re absolutely fantastic, efficient, clear to understand and a whole heap of fun. Without them, I would never have gotten the TT masteries (let alone all the associated achievements). And I’ll be honest: I don’t particularly enjoy teaming up with others, if I don’t know them. But here, if you bite the bullet, you don’t need to talk, just listen and you’ll get through TT and have fun whilst doing it. There’s definitely something to be said for enjoying a fully co-ordinated open-world raid-like experience.

TT is the hardest open world event there is, and is designed to be so. You don’t technically need to do it if joining others isn’t your thing – but it’s actually not so hard to do when you run with an experienced command crew like GW2 Community. So I urge you to put any doubts aside, and just try to catch up with the Community for a TT run.

Good luck with it!

I will second that, GW2 Community is really friendly and experienced running this event. You don’t even absolutely have to join TS, even if it helps immensely, as the comms are active on squad and map chats as well, and will explain the event beforehand. Just be sure to be at the right place well before the event is supposed to start. 20-30 minutes earlier preferably. And listen to the comms!

He clearly isn’t willing to take any advice given here. He was triggered by ~gasp~ having to do a world boss that requires an organized group, and not a spam 1, zerg. You did your best, no point trying to help someone unwilling to help themself.

On EU there is a group called GW2Community, they give shout outs on the map for the 13:30 TT Wurm, and they have like a 99% success rate. YES they do require you to use teamspeak, but thats because the boss doesn’t take for less communication