Here’s something I came up with the other day while walking through an abandoned and destroyed LA. Let’s make it a free zone! The area has been taken over by brigands, thieves and whoever are attracted by ruined wealth (pirates?). Here’s what it means:
- PvP-enabled zones/areas (maybe taverns as safe zones), options to team up or join a team (rivaling city rogue factions)
- Sites guilds can claim for their own
- Keep up with the renegade/pirate theme but even more secretive and with more houses/hidden doors/hard to reach places.
- Different from WvWvW because; more compact, more personal, within the server only.
What are your ideas, thoughts or additions? I thought it would be a unique destiny for our beloved LA, keeping some of the previous theme intact but going from a safe place to a now risky and daring place!
Well, considering eventually cities won’t be ‘server-only’, that part of the idea would not work.
As for the rest of it, it if was implemented, I guess I would never see LA again. Not into PvP that much.
WvWvW is organized neatly between 3 servers, I don’t see why it couldn’t work. As for you not being into PvP, too bad, but I can’t help but feel some people might be.
Here’s something I came up with the other day while walking through an abandoned and destroyed LA. Let’s make it a free zone! The area has been taken over by brigands, thieves and whoever are attracted by ruined wealth (pirates?). Here’s what it means:
- PvP-enabled zones/areas (maybe taverns as safe zones), options to team up or join a team (rivaling city rogue factions)
- Sites guilds can claim for their own
- Keep up with the renegade/pirate theme but even more secretive and with more houses/hidden doors/hard to reach places.
- Different from WvWvW because; more compact, more personal, within the server only.
What are your ideas, thoughts or additions? I thought it would be a unique destiny for our beloved LA, keeping some of the previous theme intact but going from a safe place to a now risky and daring place!
Cheers,
Capas
Sorry no – want open world PvP like that there are other games out there.
Here’s something I came up with the other day while walking through an abandoned and destroyed LA. Let’s make it a free zone! The area has been taken over by brigands, thieves and whoever are attracted by ruined wealth (pirates?). Here’s what it means:
- PvP-enabled zones/areas (maybe taverns as safe zones), options to team up or join a team (rivaling city rogue factions)
- Sites guilds can claim for their own
- Keep up with the renegade/pirate theme but even more secretive and with more houses/hidden doors/hard to reach places.
- Different from WvWvW because; more compact, more personal, within the server only.
What are your ideas, thoughts or additions? I thought it would be a unique destiny for our beloved LA, keeping some of the previous theme intact but going from a safe place to a now risky and daring place!
Cheers,
Capas
Sorry no – want open world PvP like that there are other games out there.
Thanks for your reply, but I think it’s just giving people more options and this sounded fun to me. If you don’t want it there’s also other games out there… is it really relevant that it’s not unique?
Well, considering eventually cities won’t be ‘server-only’, that part of the idea would not work.
As for the rest of it, it if was implemented, I guess I would never see LA again. Not into PvP that much.
WvWvW is organized neatly between 3 servers, I don’t see why it couldn’t work. As for you not being into PvP, too bad, but I can’t help but feel some people might be.
My point is…there will no longer be distinct server cities once MegaServer is fully rolled out. LA could conceivably has people from 12 servers in it. How would your plan work? Only a certain percentage of the population can partake in any given LA map?
Well, considering eventually cities won’t be ‘server-only’, that part of the idea would not work.
As for the rest of it, it if was implemented, I guess I would never see LA again. Not into PvP that much.
WvWvW is organized neatly between 3 servers, I don’t see why it couldn’t work. As for you not being into PvP, too bad, but I can’t help but feel some people might be.
My point is…there will no longer be distinct server cities once MegaServer is fully rolled out. LA could conceivably has people from 12 servers in it. How would your plan work? Only a certain percentage of the population can partake in any given LA map?
As long as servers exist (E.g. Piken Square, where I’m from) you could designate the area to that particular server. As far as I understood, the megaserver will still have seperate servers (for purposes such as WvWvW). I guess 1 more map is not so hard then? Correct me if I’m wrong, then I should read up on the upcoming patch notes
So, who goes to Piken Square LA, then? There is a disconnect here somewhere. Eventually, (not right away), the Megaservers will create one LA that anyone could conceivably go to, regardless of their own world. Though, of course, everyone can not fit in one instance of that particular map, and more maps of LAwill be created. With more of the people you see often, such as your server-mates, guildies, friends, etc. But, there can also be people from any number of servers in that map, as well.
How do you keep it ‘within the server’, when there may be players from any number of servers in each map of LA? That is my question.
So, who goes to Piken Square LA, then? There is a disconnect here somewhere. Eventually, (not right away), the Megaservers will create one LA that anyone could conceivably go to, regardless of their own world. Though, of course, everyone can not fit in one instance of that particular map, and more maps of LAwill be created. With more of the people you see often, such as your server-mates, guildies, friends, etc. But, there can also be people from any number of servers in that map, as well.
How do you keep it ‘within the server’, when there may be players from any number of servers in each map of LA? That is my question.
As long as my character is tagged under the name “Stim Packs – Piken Square” then they can make a different map for every server. It can be done in WvWvW so why not one map for each server? Besides it’s a technical issue… I’m sure we can leave that to the devs. I’d like to hear more comments on the idea itself.
Here’s something I came up with the other day while walking through an abandoned and destroyed LA. Let’s make it a free zone! The area has been taken over by brigands, thieves and whoever are attracted by ruined wealth (pirates?). Here’s what it means:
- PvP-enabled zones/areas (maybe taverns as safe zones), options to team up or join a team (rivaling city rogue factions)
- Sites guilds can claim for their own
- Keep up with the renegade/pirate theme but even more secretive and with more houses/hidden doors/hard to reach places.
- Different from WvWvW because; more compact, more personal, within the server only.
What are your ideas, thoughts or additions? I thought it would be a unique destiny for our beloved LA, keeping some of the previous theme intact but going from a safe place to a now risky and daring place!
Cheers,
Capas
Sorry no – want open world PvP like that there are other games out there.
Thanks for your reply, but I think it’s just giving people more options and this sounded fun to me. If you don’t want it there’s also other games out there… is it really relevant that it’s not unique?
It is not fun with areas like that. What you would end up with is a area full of gankers that prowl around and think they are UBER because of it.
Here’s something I came up with the other day while walking through an abandoned and destroyed LA. Let’s make it a free zone! The area has been taken over by brigands, thieves and whoever are attracted by ruined wealth (pirates?). Here’s what it means:
- PvP-enabled zones/areas (maybe taverns as safe zones), options to team up or join a team (rivaling city rogue factions)
- Sites guilds can claim for their own
- Keep up with the renegade/pirate theme but even more secretive and with more houses/hidden doors/hard to reach places.
- Different from WvWvW because; more compact, more personal, within the server only.
What are your ideas, thoughts or additions? I thought it would be a unique destiny for our beloved LA, keeping some of the previous theme intact but going from a safe place to a now risky and daring place!
Cheers,
Capas
Sorry no – want open world PvP like that there are other games out there.
Thanks for your reply, but I think it’s just giving people more options and this sounded fun to me. If you don’t want it there’s also other games out there… is it really relevant that it’s not unique?
It is not fun with areas like that. What you would end up with is a area full of gankers that prowl around and think they are UBER because of it.
Gankers? It’s an area you go to to challenge others and prove your worth. It’s like PvP/WvW but with a twist. People in PvP/WvW aren’t called gankers and aren’t UBER right? Sure there’s some bad apples…
open world pvp is already in their schedule, expect no release date.
Oh, you saw their schedule?
they said it in one of the interviews.
Colin said:
“In the long term, we would absolutely like to have some form of dueling in the game or in the open world where you can challenge and fight other people.”
That was during PAX 2013 12 months ago.
With them constantly pushing SPVP, do you really think they are planning on implementing dueling in PVE? I dont.
It would also make no sense, marketing or business wise, for Colin to say in that interview that they definately will never implement it, which doesnt mean that its on their schedule.
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I am sorry, but one of the purposes of the MegaServer is to eliminate having to create a map for every server. They don’t do it in WvW, they create a map for every 3 servers.
I am sorry your idea just won’t work with the new infrastructure, not to mention many people are not interested in Open World PvP. And those that are, have..for the most part…objected to having it in an instance, no matter how large it may be.
If they wanted an free for all PvP zone, they’d be better served to make a new area for it to happen in. Lion’s Arch is too important to the lore of this game to lose to something that will make the majority of the players simply avoid it.
A free for all PvP zone done right was City of Heroes’ Warburg zone. (Let’s ignore how badly balanced CoH PvP itself was, that’s not the issue here.) There were tunnels below the ground, and a city above. Down in the tunnels, if you got past the PvE threats, you could find scientists. Rescue/capture one, and you could walk them up to the surface and find a control panel. Getting them there got you one launch code. Getting all three codes meant that you could then go to the center of the map and claim one of three “Nuke” one shot temp powers that could be used at any time, PvP or PvE. The trick was, if you were killed while carrying codes, you’d lose one and the killer might gain one. Or they could get you while escorting a scientist, and take them away from you.
The nukes were useful and fun, but never a “must have”. That’s an important detail, as “must have” forces people into PvP. Useful and fun does not.
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Personally, I want LA back. If not, it would be a great place to put guild halls/player housing as has been previously suggested.
Getting back LA would seem like the most boring thing ever to me. I’d like at least 1 or 2 more zones next patch and a completely new city to live in. We had LA, I don’t need a(n exact) copy back. Lore-wise, I think they could work around not having to go back there.
A free for all PvP zone done right was City of Heroes’ Warburg zone. (Let’s ignore how badly balanced CoH PvP itself was, that’s not the issue here.) There were tunnels below the ground, and a city above. Down in the tunnels, if you got past the PvE threats, you could find scientists. Rescue/capture one, and you could walk them up to the surface and find a control panel. Getting them there got you one launch code. Getting all three codes meant that you could then go to the center of the map and claim one of three “Nuke” one shot temp powers that could be used at any time, PvP or PvE. The trick was, if you were killed while carrying codes, you’d lose one and the killer might gain one. Or they could get you while escorting a scientist, and take them away from you.
The nukes were useful and fun, but never a “must have”. That’s an important detail, as “must have” forces people into PvP. Useful and fun does not.[/quote]
Sounds like fun! I’m definitely in for something like that, including the point about the must-haves.
Oh and another thing, more specific to the idea. With these factions in the cities, guilds or parties could register in groups (5?) to do missions to get a special object/assassinate someone. Competing against others that have signed up at their chosen faction hub and are assigned the same/similar/crossing/exact opposite objective. Make it small scale missions, so you meet another group on the streets and can fight for something and get a reward. Hell you could even make it tied to a race or profession team only!
This could turn our really cool in the old LA map (with new ragged/thrown-together-quickly buildings).
Maybe yes, it’s better not to make this server-tied, more guild/party tied – which the megaserver would actually help with.
open world pvp is already in their schedule, expect no release date.
Oh, you saw their schedule?
they said it in one of the interviews.
Colin said:
“In the long term, we would absolutely like to have some form of dueling in the game or in the open world where you can challenge and fight other people.”
That was during PAX 2013 12 months ago.
With them constantly pushing SPVP, do you really think they are planning on implementing dueling in PVE? I dont.
It would also make no sense, marketing or business wise, for Colin to say in that interview that they definately will never implement it, which doesnt mean that its on their schedule.
spvp doesnt not work like pve, pve uses pve stat, pvp uses pvp stat, dualing in wvw with pve stats and dualing in pvp is completely different, as of right now, dualing with pve stats you have to be in enemy server in wvw.
also pvp is not dueling, but team play based, which is 5v5 with more complex mechanics. open world pvp dueling may get more people in to pvp. since open world pvp will just be casual and limited.
I would rather have a rebuilt, though remodeled, peaceful LA back. The people who like PvP can do sPvP or WvW. If LA became a PvP haven it would simply be avoided by the majority of players.
