[Suggestion] Make dyes a little less random

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Posted by: Nemisis.4690

Nemisis.4690

I don’t know about most of you folks, but I am a bit frustrated with dyes and the way we obtain them now, and the likelihood of obtaining one of significant personal value to each of us (Note i stated personal value, not market value).

Having opened perhaps 30 dyes in the last month or so I am frustrated, to be honest i do not and did not then, like the changes made obtaining them. Be that as it may however, we all know what rngesus can have in store for us.

Therefore, I propose something i think may be a good idea, but we all know that our ideas aren’t thought out too well sometimes… so here goes…

What I would like to see is a simple array of dye numbers we possess for our accounts listed in a personal database that would eventually guarantee us a dye of some degree of rarity.

I am so kitten tired of opening dyes and getting duplicate after duplicate and common dyes to boot. Make it so when we open a dye and the ID number that is generated is the same as one we already have that we generate another roll for the ID and we receive one that we do not already have.

Thus, I am not asking for the rates to be tweaked, just that some kind of sense is made out of the RNG to give us a chance at getting something nice instead of the plethora of common dyes we already have ad-naseum.

This will give us a better chance in the long run of obtaining dyes we do not have; Hell, even if it is a common dye we know that at least down the road we will surely be able to get something nice® than the daily drek we usually manage to garner.

Thoughts?

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Posted by: Olvendred.3027

Olvendred.3027

Just buy the ones you want from the TP. It’s a lot cheaper, and more certain.

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Posted by: khani.4786

khani.4786

As I’m genuinely curious…how are you getting your dyes?

Are you crafting them? Buying with laurels? Buying Unidentified ones from the Trading post?

I unlocked 90% of the dyes before the removed dyes as a possible drop and found the rest of the rares I needed when I was refunded dyes for having duplicates. So I honestly don’t know how people are choosing to get dyes now. Personally, I’d be crafting dyes to get the particular color spectrum I wanted rather than buying from the trading post.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

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Wouldn’t your suggestion make the opening of dyes limited to 400 or 450 or whatever number of dyes there are in-game? Once having reached that limit, there would never be reason to open a dye.

I suppose they could do this, but it’s not really much different than purchasing them off the TP, as far as interest/surprise goes, though it would certainly be much cheaper. (I still have a couple of stacks of unidentified dyes in the bank.)

It would definitely change the price of dyes.

I really preferred the non-account-wide dyes, where we got more drops, and duplicates would be useful. Getting a drop now isn’t very exciting.

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Posted by: Doggie.3184

Doggie.3184

Dyes are pretty cheap outside of the black lion limited ones. The chance of me getting one worth selling a lot is like a 1% chance so I just sell the unidentified ones I find. ;o

Just buy the colors you want.

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Posted by: Palador.2170

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I’m going to have to agree with “buy them on the TP”. But, if you’re really set on getting one that’s not one of the Black Lion limited ones, and for some reason it’s not for sale, I think the Zepherite dye items actually let you pick the color you get from it.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

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I’m going to have to agree with “buy them on the TP”. But, if you’re really set on getting one that’s not one of the Black Lion limited ones, and for some reason it’s not for sale, I think the Zepherite dye items actually let you pick the color you get from it.

They do! Which is also slightly weird …

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

Just sell the unidentified dyes and buy what you want from the trading post.

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Posted by: azzy.6485

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finding and id’ing dyes used to be the FUN way of getting them…now, it’s better to sell them to the gamblers / bitfrost crafters and buy the colors you want – sad, really.

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

finding and id’ing dyes used to be the FUN way of getting them…now, it’s better to sell them to the gamblers / bitfrost crafters and buy the colors you want – sad, really.

It used to be fun because each char had it’s own dye palate. If one alt couldn’t use a dye, then another could. Personally though, I like having account bound dyes. I like having the full range of all my dyes available to all, even on a level 1 alt, and knowing that if I buy a 40gold dye it’s a one time purchase. Does it remove the fun of opening dyes since you’re most likely to get “you already know this color”? Yes it does. Is it worth it? Imo, yes it is.

It removed the fun of ID’ing dyes and added the fun of having all those dyes available to you to freely use. An acceptable trade off imo.

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Posted by: edgarallanpwn.8739

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Just buy the ones you want from the TP. It’s a lot cheaper, and more certain.

You serious right? A lot of them are 30g+

God forbid you want a specialty dye. The highest ones are now 160g each. More than blc items

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

The bl ones are the ones that annoy me. I dont mind rng on dyes, thats fine. Its rng on top of rng that i have issue with. If you buy them from the store or get the from a bl chest, you have a small chance of getting the exclusive. Then an even smaller chance of one you want.

If i buy say the lions arch dye pack from the gem store, i would expect it to be fairer to have a guaranteed chance of one of the new types, but it be a random one. Getting a blue from a gem store pack feels like a gamble too far.

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Posted by: Behellagh.1468

Behellagh.1468

As it was said, cheap except for the themed Gem Shop dyes, which are the vast majority of those over 35g. Only Abyss and White are over 35g that are not from the Gem Shop.

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

Just buy the ones you want from the TP. It’s a lot cheaper, and more certain.

You serious right? A lot of them are 30g+

God forbid you want a specialty dye. The highest ones are now 160g each. More than blc items

Is opening unidentified dyes worth, atm, 78 silver each for a one in 400 (plus) chance at getting the one you want cheaper? If the person is lucky, yes. Otherwise they are going to be opening a lot of unid dyes worth 78 silver and getting dyes worth 1 or 2 silver they can’t use.

Yes, for the average person it’s more cost effective to sell the unid dyes and buy the ones they want, RNG being what it is.

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Posted by: Chewablesleeptablet.3185

Chewablesleeptablet.3185

Just buy the ones you want from the TP. It’s a lot cheaper, and more certain.

Just another way of basing Guild Wars 2 around the TP. YUP just grind your way to getting whatever you want.