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Posted by: Vix.6730

Vix.6730

The new hair styles are lovely. I happily plunked down $10 for a couple kits. My suggestion as the title conveys….what if we could swap to hairstyles we’ve purchased in the past? Somewhere in the system there has to be a log showing what style was used with each kit. In the same vein of “unlocking” a skin, can we unlock a hairstyle? You can even add a cooldown if you wish.

This suggestion would essentially split hairstyles from body types and tattoos which shouldn’t not be changed lightly and require a one-time use kit.

Taking this idea one step further – you could add a new achievement! Hairstyle collections, buy them all. You’d have more of my money.

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Posted by: Bishop.7140

Bishop.7140

There is a permenant hair style kit you can buy for 800 golds.

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Posted by: Miss Lana.5276

Miss Lana.5276

There is a permenant hair style kit you can buy for 800 golds.

Nope. 2,180g. I only know because I bought mine for 1,600g and I keep tabs on the price, just out of curiosity.

This item is pretty much what you’re suggesting Vix. I dislike the idea of having them as “unlockables”. While it is expensive as is, I like the system that’s in place.

The only thing I’d add is a permanent total make-over kit to the BL chests.

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Posted by: Vix.6730

Vix.6730

There is a permenant hair style kit you can buy for 800 golds.

You mean the one for 2,179 gold? As it is, 250 gold costs 2,139 gems, so spending 2,179 gold on a contract is not very feasible.

The incremental option has a much lower entry barrier and would eventually accrue over time. 250 Gems for a self-style kit unlocks one choice. To unlock another spend 250 more.

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Posted by: Garambola.2461

Garambola.2461

Actually I would really love this. As a roleplayer, I would like to have different hairstyle for town and combat.

And unlocking one hairstyle to use again for one character is not at all the same as being able to use any hairstyle on any character at a whim. Permanent contract would still be very valuable.

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Posted by: Pockets.3201

Pockets.3201

They should just add a barber to the main cities. Haircuts should not cost gems. Money grab gemstore items…

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Posted by: Miss Lana.5276

Miss Lana.5276

And unlocking one hairstyle to use again for one character is not at all the same as being able to use any hairstyle on any character at a whim. Permanent contract would still be very valuable.

Not really. After you’ve unlocked all the hairstyles on all your characters and can change them at a whim in, say, the hero panel, then the contract would be useless, as you’d be able to change it without the contract anyway.

For your RPing, instead of this suggested overhaul to hairstyling, I would suggest a system where your appearance in town differs to that in explorable areas, including a change to hair. That I would be fine with, as I used the system that gw1 had that was similar.

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Posted by: Veydar.5017

Veydar.5017

This would not please those who spent legendary size fortunes on the Perma Kit.

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Posted by: Tigaseye.2047

Tigaseye.2047

There is a permenant hair style kit you can buy for 800 golds.

Yeah, a “mere” £80 (or more) to change one’s hairdo from a hair up one, to a hair down one, occasionally.

What a bargain! ><

It’s more than fair enough to purchase hair kits (permanent, or otherwise) for complicated new hairstyles, but it seems excessive to charge for an entire kit, for the right to just put one’s hair up, or down (which one can just do for free, IRL).

Especially if one has already chosen/purchased certain styles, previously.

Once you have chosen your original style and then purchased a new style (or styles), it should be more like an outfit system, IMO.

They could still charge the £80 (ideally less – it’s still far too much), for people who wanted to acquire every style (including all the new ones), I guess.

This would not please those who spent legendary size fortunes on the Perma Kit.

Tough, frankly.

If something is found to be unfair, you don’t just carry on with the unfairness, so the wronged people increase in number, indefinitely.

You nip it in the bud.

Besides, as I say, it would still have some value, in that it would allow them to access all the styles (including all new ones).

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Posted by: Garambola.2461

Garambola.2461

“Once you have unlocked all the hairstyles for all your characters”.
How many hairstyles would that be even for someone with just 5 characters? I am at work and cannot check, but it is a lot. And more are coming. Permanent includes all present and all future styles. Why not just be happy with that and let others have a little bit too.

Townclothes were removed from the game already, but when we did have them, I did wish there was a townhair too.

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Posted by: AdaephonDelat.3890

AdaephonDelat.3890

There is a permenant hair style kit you can buy for 800 golds.

Yeah, a “mere” £80 to change one’s hairdo from a hair up one, to a hair down one, occasionally.

What a bargain! ><

It’s more than fair enough to purchase hair kits (permanent, or otherwise) for complicated new hairstyles, but it seems excessive to charge for an entire kit, for the right to just put one’s hair up, or down (which one can just do for free, IRL).

Especially if one has already chosen/purchased certain styles, previously.

Once you have chosen your original style and then purchased a new style (or styles), it should be more like an outfit system, IMO.

They could still charge the £80 (ideally less – it’s still far too much), for people who wanted to acquire every style (including all the new ones), I guess.

This would not please those who spent legendary size fortunes on the Perma Kit.

Tough, frankly.

If something is found to be unfair, you don’t just carry on with the unfairness, so the wronged people increase in number, indefinitely.

You nip it in the bud.

Besides, as I say, it would still have some value, in that it would allow them to access all the styles (including all new ones).

It’s not in the gem store (unless you count the black lion keys as it drops from the black lion chests). Because it’s a rare drop from the chests the players have set the price on the TP. Here’s the TP details for the item – https://www.gw2spidy.com/item/38507

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Posted by: Tigaseye.2047

Tigaseye.2047

There is a permenant hair style kit you can buy for 800 golds.

Yeah, a “mere” £80 to change one’s hairdo from a hair up one, to a hair down one, occasionally.

What a bargain! ><

It’s more than fair enough to purchase hair kits (permanent, or otherwise) for complicated new hairstyles, but it seems excessive to charge for an entire kit, for the right to just put one’s hair up, or down (which one can just do for free, IRL).

Especially if one has already chosen/purchased certain styles, previously.

Once you have chosen your original style and then purchased a new style (or styles), it should be more like an outfit system, IMO.

They could still charge the £80 (ideally less – it’s still far too much), for people who wanted to acquire every style (including all the new ones), I guess.

This would not please those who spent legendary size fortunes on the Perma Kit.

Tough, frankly.

If something is found to be unfair, you don’t just carry on with the unfairness, so the wronged people increase in number, indefinitely.

You nip it in the bud.

Besides, as I say, it would still have some value, in that it would allow them to access all the styles (including all new ones).

It’s not in the gem store (unless you count the black lion keys as it drops from the black lion chests). Because it’s a rare drop from the chests the players have set the price on the TP. Here’s the TP details for the item – https://www.gw2spidy.com/item/38507

Yes, I understand that, but the “rarity” (which is 100% set by ANet – it’s not in the lap of the Gods) + the demand for the item = the price.

So, ANet are, ultimately, in total control of the price, in that if they upped the droprate considerably, the price would, inevitably, fall due to higher supply vs demand.

Similarly, if they offered players this outfit (or maybe transmutation) option, that would also affect the price.

“Turns out when people play the game, they don’t admire your feet at all.” sephiroth

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Posted by: AdaephonDelat.3890

AdaephonDelat.3890

There is a permenant hair style kit you can buy for 800 golds.

Yeah, a “mere” £80 to change one’s hairdo from a hair up one, to a hair down one, occasionally.

What a bargain! ><

It’s more than fair enough to purchase hair kits (permanent, or otherwise) for complicated new hairstyles, but it seems excessive to charge for an entire kit, for the right to just put one’s hair up, or down (which one can just do for free, IRL).

Especially if one has already chosen/purchased certain styles, previously.

Once you have chosen your original style and then purchased a new style (or styles), it should be more like an outfit system, IMO.

They could still charge the £80 (ideally less – it’s still far too much), for people who wanted to acquire every style (including all the new ones), I guess.

This would not please those who spent legendary size fortunes on the Perma Kit.

Tough, frankly.

If something is found to be unfair, you don’t just carry on with the unfairness, so the wronged people increase in number, indefinitely.

You nip it in the bud.

Besides, as I say, it would still have some value, in that it would allow them to access all the styles (including all new ones).

It’s not in the gem store (unless you count the black lion keys as it drops from the black lion chests). Because it’s a rare drop from the chests the players have set the price on the TP. Here’s the TP details for the item – https://www.gw2spidy.com/item/38507

Yes, I understand that, but the “rarity” (which is 100% set by ANet – it’s not in the lap of the Gods) + the demand for the item = the price.

So, ANet are, ultimately, in total control of the price, in that if they upped the droprate considerably, the price would, inevitably, fall due to higher supply vs demand.

Similarly, if they offered players this outfit, or maybe transmutation, option that would also affect the price.

Ah right. Way you worded it seemed like you thought that it was on the gem store.

If you’d like to discuss that further or make suggestions with regards to that then I’d advise you try to get in touch with John. There’s a sticky at the top called “I have a question about the economy” and he generally replies in there when he gets the chance.

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Posted by: Tigaseye.2047

Tigaseye.2047

There is a permenant hair style kit you can buy for 800 golds.

Yeah, a “mere” £80 to change one’s hairdo from a hair up one, to a hair down one, occasionally.

What a bargain! ><

It’s more than fair enough to purchase hair kits (permanent, or otherwise) for complicated new hairstyles, but it seems excessive to charge for an entire kit, for the right to just put one’s hair up, or down (which one can just do for free, IRL).

Especially if one has already chosen/purchased certain styles, previously.

Once you have chosen your original style and then purchased a new style (or styles), it should be more like an outfit system, IMO.

They could still charge the £80 (ideally less – it’s still far too much), for people who wanted to acquire every style (including all the new ones), I guess.

This would not please those who spent legendary size fortunes on the Perma Kit.

Tough, frankly.

If something is found to be unfair, you don’t just carry on with the unfairness, so the wronged people increase in number, indefinitely.

You nip it in the bud.

Besides, as I say, it would still have some value, in that it would allow them to access all the styles (including all new ones).

It’s not in the gem store (unless you count the black lion keys as it drops from the black lion chests). Because it’s a rare drop from the chests the players have set the price on the TP. Here’s the TP details for the item – https://www.gw2spidy.com/item/38507

Yes, I understand that, but the “rarity” (which is 100% set by ANet – it’s not in the lap of the Gods) + the demand for the item = the price.

So, ANet are, ultimately, in total control of the price, in that if they upped the droprate considerably, the price would, inevitably, fall due to higher supply vs demand.

Similarly, if they offered players this outfit, or maybe transmutation, option that would also affect the price.

Ah right. Way you worded it seemed like you thought that it was on the gem store.

If you’d like to discuss that further or make suggestions with regards to that then I’d advise you try to get in touch with John. There’s a sticky at the top called “I have a question about the economy” and he generally replies in there when he gets the chance.

Well, I’m not sure what I could ask, or suggest, as they are presumably aware that they have complete control over the entire economy, already?

The only thing they don’t have control over is the demand side, for totally optional/cosmetic items.

Although, I guess, even then, they could buy a bunch of stuff to up the perceived demand, if they wanted to.

Other than that, they can do anything they like, whenever they like.

My main concern, however, isn’t really the kits – I think they would find their own level, just fine, if this suggestion was introduced.

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Posted by: serenke.4806

serenke.4806

This suggestion can not ever be implemented, due to what Veydar said.

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Posted by: AdaephonDelat.3890

AdaephonDelat.3890

There is a permenant hair style kit you can buy for 800 golds.

Yeah, a “mere” £80 to change one’s hairdo from a hair up one, to a hair down one, occasionally.

What a bargain! ><

It’s more than fair enough to purchase hair kits (permanent, or otherwise) for complicated new hairstyles, but it seems excessive to charge for an entire kit, for the right to just put one’s hair up, or down (which one can just do for free, IRL).

Especially if one has already chosen/purchased certain styles, previously.

Once you have chosen your original style and then purchased a new style (or styles), it should be more like an outfit system, IMO.

They could still charge the £80 (ideally less – it’s still far too much), for people who wanted to acquire every style (including all the new ones), I guess.

This would not please those who spent legendary size fortunes on the Perma Kit.

Tough, frankly.

If something is found to be unfair, you don’t just carry on with the unfairness, so the wronged people increase in number, indefinitely.

You nip it in the bud.

Besides, as I say, it would still have some value, in that it would allow them to access all the styles (including all new ones).

It’s not in the gem store (unless you count the black lion keys as it drops from the black lion chests). Because it’s a rare drop from the chests the players have set the price on the TP. Here’s the TP details for the item – https://www.gw2spidy.com/item/38507

Yes, I understand that, but the “rarity” (which is 100% set by ANet – it’s not in the lap of the Gods) + the demand for the item = the price.

So, ANet are, ultimately, in total control of the price, in that if they upped the droprate considerably, the price would, inevitably, fall due to higher supply vs demand.

Similarly, if they offered players this outfit, or maybe transmutation, option that would also affect the price.

Ah right. Way you worded it seemed like you thought that it was on the gem store.

If you’d like to discuss that further or make suggestions with regards to that then I’d advise you try to get in touch with John. There’s a sticky at the top called “I have a question about the economy” and he generally replies in there when he gets the chance.

Well, I’m not sure what I could ask, or suggest, as they are presumably aware that they have complete control over the entire economy, already?

The only thing they don’t have control over is the demand side, for totally optional/cosmetic items.

Although, I guess, even then, they could buy a bunch of stuff to up the perceived demand, if they wanted to.

Other than that, they can do anything they like, whenever they like.

My main concern, however, isn’t really the kits – I think they would find their own level, just fine, if this suggestion was introduced.

I’m not sure either. I only suggested it as you seemed to have an issue with the economy. If you don’t then not an issue please ignore my suggestion.

OT – Whilst it’s not a bad idea I don’t think it’ll be implemented unfortunately. In an effort to (kinda) save some cash OP have you tried key farming at all? The Black Lion Chests used to give out the regular hairstyle kits every now and then (not a massively rare drop either) and I’ve still got 3 or 4 left over from when I did it but not done it in a while so I’m not sure if they’ve been removed/drop rate changed.

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Posted by: Tigaseye.2047

Tigaseye.2047

There is a permenant hair style kit you can buy for 800 golds.

Yeah, a “mere” £80 to change one’s hairdo from a hair up one, to a hair down one, occasionally.

What a bargain! ><

It’s more than fair enough to purchase hair kits (permanent, or otherwise) for complicated new hairstyles, but it seems excessive to charge for an entire kit, for the right to just put one’s hair up, or down (which one can just do for free, IRL).

Especially if one has already chosen/purchased certain styles, previously.

Once you have chosen your original style and then purchased a new style (or styles), it should be more like an outfit system, IMO.

They could still charge the £80 (ideally less – it’s still far too much), for people who wanted to acquire every style (including all the new ones), I guess.

This would not please those who spent legendary size fortunes on the Perma Kit.

Tough, frankly.

If something is found to be unfair, you don’t just carry on with the unfairness, so the wronged people increase in number, indefinitely.

You nip it in the bud.

Besides, as I say, it would still have some value, in that it would allow them to access all the styles (including all new ones).

It’s not in the gem store (unless you count the black lion keys as it drops from the black lion chests). Because it’s a rare drop from the chests the players have set the price on the TP. Here’s the TP details for the item – https://www.gw2spidy.com/item/38507

Yes, I understand that, but the “rarity” (which is 100% set by ANet – it’s not in the lap of the Gods) + the demand for the item = the price.

So, ANet are, ultimately, in total control of the price, in that if they upped the droprate considerably, the price would, inevitably, fall due to higher supply vs demand.

Similarly, if they offered players this outfit, or maybe transmutation, option that would also affect the price.

Ah right. Way you worded it seemed like you thought that it was on the gem store.

If you’d like to discuss that further or make suggestions with regards to that then I’d advise you try to get in touch with John. There’s a sticky at the top called “I have a question about the economy” and he generally replies in there when he gets the chance.

Well, I’m not sure what I could ask, or suggest, as they are presumably aware that they have complete control over the entire economy, already?

The only thing they don’t have control over is the demand side, for totally optional/cosmetic items.

Although, I guess, even then, they could buy a bunch of stuff to up the perceived demand, if they wanted to.

Other than that, they can do anything they like, whenever they like.

My main concern, however, isn’t really the kits – I think they would find their own level, just fine, if this suggestion was introduced.

I’m not sure either. I only suggested it as you seemed to have an issue with the economy. If you don’t then not an issue please ignore my suggestion.

No, not really an issue, as such, just an awareness of how it works.

I may have issues about the price of individual items (there are some things that ANet have allowed to reach almost astronomical prices), but that’s all, really.

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Posted by: Rin.1046

Rin.1046

Impatience drives up the prices. If people could learn to be patient, and only bought things via buy orders rather than buying things instantly, then people would have to start lowering the prices. But people can’t wait (because they want it NOW!), and sellers know it.

As to the idea of unlocking hairstyles, I like it and would like to see it added as an extention of the wardrobe feature. However, I do not think it will ever happen, as I imagine the permanent hair kit makes Anet a tidy profit, and this idea would render that item useless.

Simplicity is complex.

Good feedback is key to getting the developers to listen to you.