Guild Wars 2

I don’t see why you call the gemstore pick as an upgrade cause it is exactly the same as the orichalcum pick only it has infinite uses.

Mr Grimm.2049:

I don’t see why you call the gemstore pick as an upgrade cause it is exactly the same as the orichalcum pick only it has infinite uses.

The Watchwork Minng Pick actually produces Watchwork Sprockets.

They fiddled with temporary items during the first Halloween event. Never again due to players complaining that they’ll do things like this where Gem Store items would be released and available time-gatedly through ingame currency instead, iirc.

Hmm…. I can see your argument, and its a pretty decent one, but lets say Anet were to add a 25 use mining pick that gave you sprockets. What would you set the price at? A sprocket is currently around 3s, not sure about how many sprockets you would get out of 25 uses but lets say 10 or so. Would you pay 25s or something for a 25 use tool like that?
What would happen to the sprocket market? Eventually the price would fall and it would probably not be worth buying those tools anyway because the market would adjust.

I don’t see it mentioned here so I’ll bring it up.
1. The gem store unlimited use gathering tools are an account item. Which means you can pass it between characters.
2. Each tool has had several variations. The first was a lava pick from the early part of living world season 1.
3. The current price is 1000 gems. That comes out to about $12.50. It sounds like your idea would nerf an expensive item that many people paid for with real world cash.
4. Not everyone can, wants to, or would even enjoy the standard end game grinding while putting up with the attitudes this generates that would be required to buy enough gems with gold in order to afford the gathering tool of choice.

Your ideas seems well thought out but you missed some critical information. I’m hoping ArenaNet passes on this idea.

This still doesn’t address the issue of watchwork pick > molten pick/bone pick. Why would I want to buy an item from the gem store, if I know Anet are completely fine with making a superior version of it later on, leaving me out of pocket for something inferior? Also, cosmetics and functionality are always kept separate in this game, so why should I have to use a pickaxe I aesthetically hate to get the best bonus?

This was a nice suggestion, but still leaves some of us very unhappy.

Chameleon Dude.1564:

This still doesn’t address the issue of watchwork pick > molten pick/bone pick. Why would I want to buy an item from the gem store, if I know Anet are completely fine with making a superior version of it later on, leaving me out of pocket for something inferior? Also, cosmetics and functionality are always kept separate in this game, so why should I have to use a pickaxe I aesthetically hate to get the best bonus?

This was a nice suggestion, but still leaves some of us very unhappy.

Yes personally I think this is the bigger issue. Considering the pick that gives you extra items costs the same amount its not really fair on the people that have the other ones. Personally the only infinite tool I own is the watchwork pick, I bought mine with gold and it has more than paid for itself by now so I consider it a good investment. However I was considering about getting the other infinite tools as well, but am put off by the thought that they don’t give anything, and what if I get one and Anet release one that gives something more in the future? It’s holding me back from buying them because I don’t want to lose out.

Seriously, just buy the kitten watchwork pick and quit whining already. It’s like $12, the equivalent of 2 beers at a bar and definitely less than the cost of 1 ticket to go and see a movie.

calyx.9086:

Seriously, just buy the kitten watchwork pick and quit whining already. It’s like $12, the equivalent of 2 beers at a bar and definitely less than the cost of 1 ticket to go and see a movie.

That’s a really costly beer you have there.

(and trying to get an item progression into a gemstore was a really, really bad idea. the fact that we got absolutely no response from devs on that makes it even worse)

I had 2 molten picks when the watchwork came out. Why even use those now?

Chameleon Dude.1564:

This still doesn’t address the issue of watchwork pick > molten pick/bone pick. Why would I want to buy an item from the gem store, if I know Anet are completely fine with making a superior version of it later on, leaving me out of pocket for something inferior?

This has always been my biggest issue with the watchwork pick. I am out of pocket for a couple other picks now.

Go to the laurel vendor in LA and purchase a sprockets node for your home instance.
Problem solved.

Just go buy the watchwork pick yourself if it bothers you that much. (when it is on sale next time).

I don’t know what’s the big deal. The hack you could buy gold in this game. And it cost like 60$ just for a set of ascended armor. 10$ isn’t a big deal.

Eric.6109:

Go to the laurel vendor in LA and purchase a sprockets node for your home instance.
Problem solved.

Hmm, nope, just checked and having a sprockets node doesn’t remove gear progression from gemshop. Might be just me, though.

Astralporing.1957:

calyx.9086:

Seriously, just buy the kitten watchwork pick and quit whining already. It’s like $12, the equivalent of 2 beers at a bar and definitely less than the cost of 1 ticket to go and see a movie.

That’s a really costly beer you have there.

(and trying to get an item progression into a gemstore was a really, really bad idea. the fact that we got absolutely no response from devs on that makes it even worse)

Eh, maybe, pretty standard price for a beer if you aren’t drinking bud or miller or some other schwill. I’m talking pints of a decent import.

But then again, I live in an expensive locale – for perspective, my 1/2 of the rent for my apartment is $1100 a month, and it’s kind of run down and not fancy at all.

As far as a dev response, they made it clear a long time ago when this first came up that they don’t care what people think in regards to this.

Well tbh I don’t think there is an issue with this item because it gives you sprockets and there isn’t an equivalent without gems. Think about it, you have your home node which gives you sprockets, you also have the opportunity to buy them from tp and its not like theyre an expensive item. Also you can always save up for it if you really want the CONVENIENCE to gather as many sprockets as you want in a day. You are not locked out from getting them completely.
The issue with the mining pick is the fact that it is far superior than the other gem store picks for the same price, so people that bought the others feel cheated.

I still don’t understand, if we have a way to convert gold to gems, how is this item not available in game albeit at a higher price? I don’t agree with the whole concept of it’s not in game because its from the BLTC, if you can use in game currency versus real money, it’s in game. If it was for real money only, that’s a different story.

May not be opposed to granting other gathering tools options to collect other types of specialty materials, that would make sense and make the player choose which tool to use. Would create some demand for the items as well and keep older buyers happy and invite new buyers in. Would just need to account for the differences in costs of the original purchases. 200 gems buys you a widget to convert your tool from version A to version B.

As far as buying limited versions of the tools from an NPC, that can be done as well but the pricing is going to be the sticky part. The pick cost 1300 gold in current conversion. So its got to be inline with that. Good hunting gathering!

TheGrimm.5624:

As far as buying limited versions of the tools from an NPC, that can be done as well but the pricing is going to be the sticky part. The pick cost 1300 gold in current conversion. So its got to be inline with that. Good hunting gathering!

you mean 130 gold, not 1300.

I’m a bit bothered by the pick, because you never know if Anet will introduce new pick with even more advantage..

That being said, 130 gold isn’t a big deal. I look at the price of silk now and it make me puke. It cost a fortune to get a set of ascended armor.

Besides, the pick is only good if you are a full time miner, else you probably can’t even recover the 130 gold.

i find it hilarious that a thread that went on for pages in the trading post forum, is only half way down page 1 in the general forum and people are already posting “this is a non-issue.” maybe it is true that having this pick generates a sprocket here and there upon use, but it is such a drop in the bucket.. i have a sprocket generator in my home instance, and easily enough gold i could have acquired the pick when it was available.. i probably wouldn’t even trade my molten pick in for a watchwork one.. the gain is too trivial, looking at the nominal change in sprocket prices over the past few months, it’s clearly moving at a stable rate compared to other things in game.. and as this barely affects the majority of players in game, i’m willing to bet just a bit that the people it actually does are the ones going off about it.. probably promoting “the principle of the matter” in a sad attempt to force a market shift

in the end i’m not against suggestions to make the “gear” we’re talking about more balanced for everyone.. but i do find it a slight waste of the developers time.. by all means though go on for 10 pages and hope for a red post

typically on this forum posting a half-decent suggestion is almost guaranteed a baseless snarky retort.. that is not my intention but i have to agree with people on this issue that if it bothers you, you should just get the high end one when it’s in the gem shop