Guild Wars 2

Posted a suggestion earlier tonight regarding public Achievement Profiles (https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/api/Public-Achievement-Profile-please) which got moved to the API subforum simply for including those three words.

If suggestion posts are all going to get split up and moved to obscure subforums, can we just get the original suggestion forum back so they’re all in one place and people know where to look?

Thanks

Hi Mark,

Makes a lot of sense, but in terms of getting community feedback, I doubt most forum goers would trawl subforums unless they know there’s something there of interest. Surely it encourages less community feedback to suggestions overall?

The ability to publicly view someone’s achievements is something that would be done through the API. I think you can figure out why it was moved there.

Healix.5819:

The ability to publicly view someone’s achievements is something that would be done through the API. I think you can figure out why it was moved there.

Yep it’s pretty obvious why, that misses the point of this post though which is putting suggestions in front of community eyeballs.

Mark Katzbach.9084:

The suggestions forum was archived in favor of posting in relevant subforums. Team members here already monitor those subforums that are relevant to their work, the suggestions subforum required them to look in multiple places and comb through unrelated suggestions to find those that were relevant to them. We feel that focusing suggestions into the relevant places, team members are more likely to read suggestions that they may be able to act upon.

Which subforum would I go to to suggest an option to turn the kitten ed spell effect visuals down without destroying image quality?

Mark Katzbach.9084:

The suggestions forum was archived in favor of posting in relevant subforums. Team members here already monitor those subforums that are relevant to their work, the suggestions subforum required them to look in multiple places and comb through unrelated suggestions to find those that were relevant to them. We feel that focusing suggestions into the relevant places, team members are more likely to read suggestions that they may be able to act upon.

I think if I was a dev, I would have been too tempted to reply to this thread by telling the OP to post this in the suggestion sub-forum for consideration. =P

I really hope the ones who mark their “ideas” as suggestions, will receive some feedback at least.

i do not expect a full written review of why it would (not) work, but something like a “we have read your sugestion, please discuss further, we might be coming back on this” or a simple “good idea, we will think about it.”

Mark Katzbach.9084:

The suggestions forum was archived in favor of posting in relevant subforums. Team members here already monitor those subforums that are relevant to their work, the suggestions subforum required them to look in multiple places and comb through unrelated suggestions to find those that were relevant to them. We feel that focusing suggestions into the relevant places, team members are more likely to read suggestions that they may be able to act upon.

You should tell the mods to actually read the posts they move. Just the other day, a post dealing with Living World zerg events was moved to the WvW forum. It had absolutely NOTHING to do with WvW.

And if there are any mods who do not play the game, they should be let go from ArenaNet in favor of those who actually do know what is going on with the game.

Ren.5842:

Hi Mark,

Makes a lot of sense, but in terms of getting community feedback, I doubt most forum goers would trawl subforums unless they know there’s something there of interest. Surely it encourages less community feedback to suggestions overall?

It does make sense.

Perhaps something for the community in the form of a suggestions area like the Developer Comments area. A stream of the suggestions and then people can click the link to go to that thread?

Can suggestions be created with a semantic tag, similar to Dev posts, so that they can be viewed by players in a central location?

I had an issue with the guild bank/treasure trove, but the suggestions forum seemed to be the only appropriate place to post about it…but I can’t post there now. Oh well

Ren.5842:

Hi Mark,

Makes a lot of sense, but in terms of getting community feedback, I doubt most forum goers would trawl subforums unless they know there’s something there of interest. Surely it encourages less community feedback to suggestions overall?

I’ve seen many threads that were begun in other sub-forums, that were then moved to the Suggestions sub-forum, There, they died. I’ve seen comments in threads that were moved to the old suggestions forum that the thread had been killed by being moved to a sub-forum that few visited. Now, if someone wants to discuss WvW, suggestion or not, they know where to go.

I see this change as a win.

IndigoSundown.5419:

Ren.5842:

Hi Mark,

Makes a lot of sense, but in terms of getting community feedback, I doubt most forum goers would trawl subforums unless they know there’s something there of interest. Surely it encourages less community feedback to suggestions overall?

I’ve seen many threads that were begun in other sub-forums, that were then moved to the Suggestions sub-forum, There, they died. I’ve seen comments in threads that were moved to the old suggestions forum that the thread had been killed by being moved to a sub-forum that few visited. Now, if someone wants to discuss WvW, suggestion or not, they know where to go.

I see this change as a win.

It’s a win for devs, who have to monitor less forums each, but how so for players? I rarely ever look in sub forums, how can we be sure players are seeing suggestions and being given an opportunity to put forward their two cents?

Mark Katzbach.9084:

Can I ask why any threads that relate to GvG’s are moved out of the WvW Discussion thread and put in the “Things Die Here” In-game Event thread?

In-game Event’s can mean ANYTHING.

Where GvG’s relate solely to WvW and as such, should be discussed there. Or, give them their own thread in WvW section.

The new method keeps suggestions relevant to the game’s scope at any given time. Prime example, the thread in the suggestion forum that suggested “The only thing that can save the game is a new planet with flying mounts”

As much as I understand the reasoning behind it, I think it does bring up a new problem. If a suggestion does not fit into a sub-forum’s subject, then there is only one place to put it into and that is the general guild wars 2 discussions. That sub-forum seems to be one of the top viewed sub-forums which means most likely that your suggestion will rapidly be ignored because of the sheer amount of newly created or bumped threads in that section thus more threads on the same subject are created and you don’t get a good discussion going. How many threads are created where they end up with 2 to 8 responses while if it had more time on the front page, the majority would actually agree/disagree with it but just haven’t seen it and so improve feedback?
There are so many subjects that end up with no attention from devs/artists/etc simply because they are bare-bones of player feedback?

I bring this up but I do not have any solution to it so I am not saying this is not a good action.

tl;dr: having to bump threads suck.