Guild Wars 2

This thread has gone in two directions again:
1) PHIW being excluded from zerk only groups – they are not good enough, cannot use active defenses (can’t recognise and don’t want to that zerker groups use these) , don’t want to trait up in an optimal way (weapons,food,utils,traits) don’t understand there professions full potential and will protest until they are blue in the face.
OR
Just want to have good runs and be carried by others (eg zerkers)- and can’t be asked to form a PHIW group running what the hell you want and will protest until they are blue in the face.
OR
Don’t want to be told what to run and don’t want to learn from others – and will protest until they are blue in the face.
2) I cannot understand GW2 trinity (damage,support and control)- which all professions can do and want the (heal,DPS and tank)- cause that is all I understand from years of playing other MMOs. They will protest that GW2 is all wrong and needs to be changed until they are blue in the face.

If you fit any of the above- I hear that the smurfs 3 are looking for more actors.
As you’re blue in the face already you could land the star role !

Smurfs 3 – Release date Aug 2016 !

Heals aren’t the only reason zerkers survive. I agree with better coefficients, the multiplicative factor of critical damage on the additive factor of power makes damage trump all other stats that are heavily invested into for most of the PvE groundwork (basically things that hit hard as a truck regardless of what gear you’re wearing, health sponges or condition spam).

Enemy encounters and lack of variety in weapons, weapon skills and utilities are your problem – certainly not gear or stats. If you want to see the glorious benefit of other stats…PvP and WvW are right around the corner. It doesn’t work well in PvE though because they botched all of the aforementioned problems. HoT looks promising though, more options for success means you’re likely to find something that suits your individual interests.

maddoctor.2738:

You can find loads of videos like this one of people using gear with Healing Power (usually Cleric or Celestial) facerolling hard content…

Facerolling? The guy watched for tells to dodge, followed specific skill rotations, set his banners, pushed Lupi into the corner, etc. This is in no way “facerolling” content. It’s just an hour long video of a skilled warrior soloing Lupi. Just because it may have defensive or supportive stats doesn’t mean it’s just a button masher.

Bad idea because there are plenty of stat combo’s that arent zerker, and also don’t have healing power.

This does nothing for stat diversity. Healingpower gear gets a relative improvement, because everything else gets nerfed.

Bosses and dungeons need more challenging and diversified mechanics, but ultimately there is suppose to be a relatively high freedom in build diversity to clear dungeons. And people take advantage of this by going for the “fastest” builds.
That does not mean everyone plays like that, or non-zerker isnt viable.

This is getting kind of pathetic….more people have ideas on how to get zerker nerfed than actually play the game

That’s cause there are brainy smurfs out there – the village intellectual who’s not afraid to share his “wisdom” with his fellow smurfs, even though it usually results in his being booted to the village limits or whacked in the head with a mallet.

Have a look at some of his more wicked ideas and find more detail here: http://smurfs.wikia.com/wiki/Brainy_Smurf

This suggestion is just, in general, a really bad idea. It’s a solution to one ‘problem’, that creates 1000 more problems. And because that is the case, it is extremely unlikely this suggestion will ever be used.

Cuddy.6247:

maddoctor.2738:

You can find loads of videos like this one of people using gear with Healing Power (usually Cleric or Celestial) facerolling hard content…

Facerolling? The guy watched for tells to dodge, followed specific skill rotations, set his banners, pushed Lupi into the corner, etc. This is in no way “facerolling” content. It’s just an hour long video of a skilled warrior soloing Lupi. Just because it may have defensive or supportive stats doesn’t mean it’s just a button masher.

From the youtube description:

This is a video for all the people who have falsely assumed that doing dungeon solos would be harder/more challenging/blah blah blah using defensive, Cleric, PTV gear and builds. Guess what? It’s not. It’s faceroll easy.

I basically tried to do everything wrong, make as many mistakes as I could, and facetanked as much as possible. Any one of the hundreds of mistakes I made would have killed me if I were running a zerk build.

My apologies for the frame rate. My computer can’t handle recording and gameplay which is why I don’t make videos. I consider that further evidence that these builds make the game stupidly easy. I can never record solo content running my zerk build. The lag is terrible and I just die.

Aside from the first phase where he dodged/avoided the grub, and the Lupi kick, he didn’t dodge most of his other attacks. He EVEN took Lupi projectile blasts in the face and if you notice he was standing in there for phase 3 during his ENTIRE life drain duration sometimes.

I’m not saying he is not skilled, he obviously IS a skilled player, but he says it himself, he did lots of things wrong ON PURPOSE to show how powerful Healing is in the game. Check out his bold part too, any zerker would’ve died with every single “mistake” he did, that’s the trade off.

Didnt anet raise the level on some skills on how they scale with healing power and people still said lolnotworth.

Lazaar.9123:

The thing is, the arguments in this thread are just going to go around and around, being constantly repeated until it’s either 50 pages long, forgotten, or closed. The same thing happens to every other of the dozens of threads that are made about anything concerning the ‘meta’.

Silly thing is, while the OP points out the zerk-meta (hamstringing the argument immediately), there really is an issue with Healing Power as a pitiful stat. But the moment someone compares it to Berserker, all the proponents and opponents come out.

It’s especially baffling, since the pro-zerk thoughts in this thread are “it wouldn’t effect me because of active defenses and utility selection.” Great, so that means the healing coefficients and base heals can change. But… then there’s the WvW/PvP question, since everything is balanced around PvP.

maha.7902:

…people would still use glass gear?

you realise if people need an extra dodge they just stick on an energy sigil or trait for vigour, right?

and what is the rationale behind making a stat which makes you not have to dodge as much … allow you to dodge more?

It actually makes a lot of sense.

Vitality is a defensive stat, dodging helps defense even when HP does not because you get oneshot.

Hence, adding endurance boni to vitality would make it useful in more situations than it currently is while keeping its role as a core defense stat.

Mind you its not going to happen because Arenanet will never do anything about the Zerk meta, but its not a bad idea.

Buff PvE. Do not nerf builds.

It’s like we keep sending money to a tribe of sick people instead of medicine.

maddoctor.2738:

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dont expect a reply. they usually go silent after vids and the like are shown. Though thats better than the ones that ignore the posts and keep talking.