Guild Wars 2

I at least would happily bug test SAB for them. Lock me in the continue room for 20 minutes if you want.

Lord Vanquish is an elder dragon. Similar to Glint’s lair, an unassuming grain of sand in the desert, Kralkatorrik dove into cyberspace under the guise of a villain to hide from the Tyrians hunting him. It’s up to our heroes to convince Moto to enable cheat codes in the Super Adventure Box so that we may use our full hero potential there and vanquish Lord Vanquish once and for all.

Super Guild Wars 2: Crystal Crisis

Sevans.4619:

Lord Vanquish is an elder dragon. Similar to Glint’s lair, an unassuming grain of sand in the desert, Kralkatorrik dove into cyberspace under the guise of a villain to hide from the Tyrians hunting him. It’s up to our heroes to convince Moto to enable cheat codes in the Super Adventure Box so that we may use our full hero potential there and vanquish Lord Vanquish once and for all.

Super Guild Wars 2: Crystal Crisis

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Has anyone tried sending a letter to Arena Net asking them to bring SAB back? if enough people do it they might put some resources into bringing it back. that is if ANET listens to its community and all….

falcedge.1847:

Has anyone tried sending a letter to Arena Net asking them to bring SAB back? if enough people do it they might put some resources into bringing it back. that is if ANET listens to its community and all….

Maybe they’re waiting until it reaches 100000 views? They could have turned this fail into a win if they just released the old content again. But it’s been such a long time half the remaining guild wars 2 players don’t even know what SAB is… Which is a shame really. What a missed opportunity; it would have kept the people interested until the expansion.

I’m pretty new to the game, could someone explain to me what is Super adventure box to me? I saw a video that looked like minecraft, but that’s all I know. :S

coso.9173:

I’m pretty new to the game, could someone explain to me what is Super adventure box to me? I saw a video that looked like minecraft, but that’s all I know. :S

It was a stylish game inside the game. They announced 4 worlds but let us down after world 2.

This was the beginning of world 1:
https://youtu.be/F8jpD06wL0o

Kal Spiro.9745:

Give me a number then.

How about -you- give me a number? You are the one arguing my points as inaccurate so it is up to you to prove me wrong with statistics.

As for my proof I gave all I can, which is not bad considering I do not have access to Arena Nets metrics and neither do you. I am just stating my personal opinions and observations so just stop replying to my comments demanding information that I have no obligation to give you.

So do us both a favour and drop this pointless subject, I would much rather discuss how great SAB is with those that love it and want it back.

I made a post that probably didn’t get seen asking that Moto return to his state as a vendor so I could use my ancient SAB skin tokens and such but it didn’t seem to get noticed so I thought I’d post here too where there’ll maybe be some support for such an idea

Oh there is support for it… why it doesn’t happen (considering skins from moto are account bound) I have no clue, my personal theory is that if they did that it would only bring unwanted (to them) attention to SAB.

Crise.9401:

my personal theory is that if they did that it would only bring unwanted (to them) attention to SAB.

That is not it, because they released the SAB minis in BLchests not so long ago and a lot of people got their hopes up ^^

Anyways.. Every day I have people asking about my Greatsword (King Toad’s Greatsword Skin) and every day I have to explain what SAB is/was and every day I have to disappoint people by telling them the sad news that SAB hasn’t been active for over 2years..

+ 600gems for my Infinite continue coin was biggest ripoff ever.. 7.5€ well spent.. This was theft at its finest !!!

Xillllix.3485:

It was a stylish game inside the game. They announced 4 worlds but let us down after world 2.

To be fair they said, four worlds rest of which would hopefully release some day… unfortunately when it comes to world 2 the things surrounding its release were a perfect storm of unfortunate circumstances. For the people not around back then see Josh’s exhaustive posts here, sadly the second release was also arguably a victim of its own ambition (but mostly changes in reward structure and ascended weapons and stuff being introduced at the same time imho).

Xillllix.3485:

This was the beginning of world 1:
https://youtu.be/F8jpD06wL0o

:’( you evil person, making me watch this by linking it….

Aedelric.1287:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Give me a number then.

How about -you- give me a number? You are the one arguing my points as inaccurate so it is up to you to prove me wrong with statistics.

As for my proof I gave all I can, which is not bad considering I do not have access to Arena Nets metrics and neither do you. I am just stating my personal opinions and observations so just stop replying to my comments demanding information that I have no obligation to give you.

So do us both a favour and drop this pointless subject, I would much rather discuss how great SAB is with those that love it and want it back.

Um, my argument is that there are no numbers. It’s up to you, not me, to back the claim you’re making. I’ve already backed the claim I’m making by not having a number. What are you even talking about.

You are incapable to backing your claim with solid, reliable information. Therefore your claim, YOUR CLAIM not mine, that it is simple to do so is false. “Some number” is the most accurate information that can be said because there is no way to define even a percentage of the population without metrics. There are no metrics. This is the point that you can’t seem to grasp.

I’m happy to discuss SAB, but there isn’t really any of that happening, and it’s not like I haven’t done it extensively for the life of this thread. I don’t like people putting out inaccurate information as fact. I corrected you, and you’ve been arguing ever since that my correction is wrong, without any ability to back up your own claim.

I accept your admission of this all being an opinion as you accepting this, finally.

Xillllix.3485:

Fixing a code ain’t rocket science. They just don’t want to do it.

How much developing have you done?

lordkrall.7241:

Xillllix.3485:

Fixing a code ain’t rocket science. They just don’t want to do it.

How much developing have you done?

“They” and “want to” are the operative things here. Product owner has to manage the priorities of the slate of work for the development team; that’s the “they.” I’m sure everyone on their teams “want to” have a working SAB. But Arenanet is not made of infinite time, money, and qualified people. They have to make rational business decisions with the tools and resources available.

I’m as disappointed as any SAB superfan that we don’t have access yet, but refactoring code is indeed an expensive endeavor.

Personal note to development team: shouldn’t the unit tests have started failing as new work was checked in post-SAB?

rhael.6317:

Personal note to development team: shouldn’t the unit tests have started failing as new work was checked in post-SAB?

I highly doubt ArenaNet has comprehensive test coverage for their engine, since it is so old (or at least that is what people keep saying, ie. that it is actually a heavily modified version of the original GW engine). I find this somewhat unlikely because the original game was released so long ago and likely in development for a long while before that.

Also, even if we assume that unit testing is used religiously for the backend code it is doubtful that these tests can be used on the scripts written by designers (ie. what a huge bulk of SAB is) in a very complete capacity or at all.

rhael.6317:

Personal note to development team: shouldn’t the unit tests have started failing as new work was checked in post-SAB?

They won’t have unit tests for SAB. SAB was tightly bound to the game engine, because its essentially a pile of workarounds (hacks, really) to make the engine work in ways it was not designed to.

The parts of the engine that changed since it was released broke a large number of those hacks, resulting in a SAB that isn’t just in need of update, but a complete rewrite.

If we ever see it again it will be because someone at ArenaNet redeveloped it from the ground up.

Add me to the list of people who would willingly bug test SAB for the sake of bug testing it.

I just want it back :c

Why not release SAB as a game for mobile devices? This would be a perfect solution for everyone. You wouldn’t have to worry about its impact on the game (GW2) but everybody who is enthusiastic about SAB could play it 24/7 on their mobile device (phone, tablet, whatever).

This could also bring new people into GW2 perhaps. People who meet the mobile game could be curious about where this came from.

You could add an option to import your GW2 char into this little game and play it with that one.

Anyways, make it happen.

You know what really grinds my gears? Not that long ago they released new SAB minipets to get, totally making me believe that OMG SAB must be coming back! Why would they release new SAB minis if it wasn’t coming back!

Totally didn’t come back. I mean, wtf Anet! Why would you tease us so!

Draknar.5748:

You know what really grinds my gears? Not that long ago they released new SAB minipets to get, totally making me believe that OMG SAB must be coming back! Why would they release new SAB minis if it wasn’t coming back!

Totally didn’t come back. I mean, wtf Anet! Why would you tease us so!

They weren’t new, they were released

Kal Spiro.9745:

Draknar.5748:

You know what really grinds my gears? Not that long ago they released new SAB minipets to get, totally making me believe that OMG SAB must be coming back! Why would they release new SAB minis if it wasn’t coming back!

Totally didn’t come back. I mean, wtf Anet! Why would you tease us so!

They weren’t new, they were released

Are you sure? Then they were re-released or something.

kolompi.1287:

Why not release SAB as a game for mobile devices? This would be a perfect solution for everyone. You wouldn’t have to worry about its impact on the game (GW2) but everybody who is enthusiastic about SAB could play it 24/7 on their mobile device (phone, tablet, whatever).

This could also bring new people into GW2 perhaps. People who meet the mobile game could be curious about where this came from.

You could add an option to import your GW2 char into this little game and play it with that one.

Anyways, make it happen.

An interesting idea, a completely impractical idea that doesn’t make sense, but an interesting one. Rather than fixing the problem with SAB in this game engine you would have them create a completely different game, from scratch, on a completely different platform. Every single thing, from level design to textures would have to be completely redone for this.

There is no way to port anything about GW2, nor SAB, such that it could just work on a mobile device. This is so much more work that it’s still. It would also be effectively impossible to do anything more than a side scroller, due to limitations in the controls and media. This removes the most endearing aspect of SAB which is the idea of being inside the platformer yourself rather than playing it on the screen.

Draknar.5748:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Draknar.5748:

You know what really grinds my gears? Not that long ago they released new SAB minipets to get, totally making me believe that OMG SAB must be coming back! Why would they release new SAB minis if it wasn’t coming back!

Totally didn’t come back. I mean, wtf Anet! Why would you tease us so!

They weren’t new, they were released

Are you sure? Then they were re-released or something.

sorry, that’s what I meant, they were re-released.

Kal Spiro.9745:

Draknar.5748:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Draknar.5748:

You know what really grinds my gears? Not that long ago they released new SAB minipets to get, totally making me believe that OMG SAB must be coming back! Why would they release new SAB minis if it wasn’t coming back!

Totally didn’t come back. I mean, wtf Anet! Why would you tease us so!

They weren’t new, they were released

Are you sure? Then they were re-released or something.

sorry, that’s what I meant, they were re-released.

Gotcha. Well either way it was a tease!!

falcedge.1847:

Has anyone tried sending a letter to Arena Net asking them to bring SAB back? if enough people do it they might put some resources into bringing it back. that is if ANET listens to its community and all….

I guess a letter won’t help. Maybe we should try to do a crowdfunding and order a big SAB cake for Josh Foreman. Thereby we will get a lot of attention

Kal Spiro.9745:

kolompi.1287:

Why not release SAB as a game for mobile devices? This would be a perfect solution for everyone. You wouldn’t have to worry about its impact on the game (GW2) but everybody who is enthusiastic about SAB could play it 24/7 on their mobile device (phone, tablet, whatever).

This could also bring new people into GW2 perhaps. People who meet the mobile game could be curious about where this came from.

You could add an option to import your GW2 char into this little game and play it with that one.

Anyways, make it happen.

An interesting idea, a completely impractical idea that doesn’t make sense, but an interesting one. Rather than fixing the problem with SAB in this game engine you would have them create a completely different game, from scratch, on a completely different platform. Every single thing, from level design to textures would have to be completely redone for this.

There is no way to port anything about GW2, nor SAB, such that it could just work on a mobile device. This is so much more work that it’s still. It would also be effectively impossible to do anything more than a side scroller, due to limitations in the controls and media. This removes the most endearing aspect of SAB which is the idea of being inside the platformer yourself rather than playing it on the screen.

Yes, thanks for saying exactly the same as i did. I would have them do that. And what the heck are you talking about being inside the platformer rather than playing it on the screen… what? It’s a 3D platformer, there is nothing about you being in it any more than that.

Give us a sigggnnn

Meh.

I miss SAB. It was the biggest reason I logged in when it was around.

Took a break for a long time because of its disappearance.

Wish they’d bring it back.

Draknar.5748:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Draknar.5748:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Draknar.5748:

You know what really grinds my gears? Not that long ago they released new SAB minipets to get, totally making me believe that OMG SAB must be coming back! Why would they release new SAB minis if it wasn’t coming back!

Totally didn’t come back. I mean, wtf Anet! Why would you tease us so!

They weren’t new, they were released

Are you sure? Then they were re-released or something.

sorry, that’s what I meant, they were re-released.

Gotcha. Well either way it was a tease!!

it ground my gears too bro

my gears are all smooth and flat from the grinding

kolompi.1287:

Kal Spiro.9745:

kolompi.1287:

Why not release SAB as a game for mobile devices? This would be a perfect solution for everyone. You wouldn’t have to worry about its impact on the game (GW2) but everybody who is enthusiastic about SAB could play it 24/7 on their mobile device (phone, tablet, whatever).

This could also bring new people into GW2 perhaps. People who meet the mobile game could be curious about where this came from.

You could add an option to import your GW2 char into this little game and play it with that one.

Anyways, make it happen.

An interesting idea, a completely impractical idea that doesn’t make sense, but an interesting one. Rather than fixing the problem with SAB in this game engine you would have them create a completely different game, from scratch, on a completely different platform. Every single thing, from level design to textures would have to be completely redone for this.

There is no way to port anything about GW2, nor SAB, such that it could just work on a mobile device. This is so much more work that it’s still. It would also be effectively impossible to do anything more than a side scroller, due to limitations in the controls and media. This removes the most endearing aspect of SAB which is the idea of being inside the platformer yourself rather than playing it on the screen.

Yes, thanks for saying exactly the same as i did. I would have them do that. And what the heck are you talking about being inside the platformer rather than playing it on the screen… what? It’s a 3D platformer, there is nothing about you being in it any more than that.

The entire concept of SAB is that they took the 2D platformers of the 80s and 90s and made a 3D world that your character can enter. Thus it is as if you are entering into the world yourself. You didn’t get it, that’s fine, but that’s the concept.

And no, I didn’t really say the same thing as you. I explained why it’s a bad idea and won’t happen.

Why on earth would they pull a trump card like SAB while the game is hyped for HOT and or after HOT is launched and that content is still fresh?

Would make more sense to do something like SAB during a sort of low point in game hype.

For instance if they continue this strange 3 year expansion cycle doing SAB 1.5 years after HOT has been out would make more sense.

I was just wondering if I want to get a super skin should I just save up and fork out the gold or do you think it would be worth it to save my gold and when SAB eventually returns, getting it then. Everywhere I see people say it isn’t going to return for a while because of the x-pac which makes sense, but I was just wondering on other opinions.

StrangerDanger.3496:

Why on earth would they pull a trump card like SAB while the game is hyped for HOT and or after HOT is launched and that content is still fresh?

Would make more sense to do something like SAB during a sort of low point in game hype.

For instance if they continue this strange 3 year expansion cycle doing SAB 1.5 years after HOT has been out would make more sense.

If you visit other parts of the forums the HOT hype is not only down but has been down for at least a month.

Hmmm this might be different enough to stay a separate topic. But the very short answer is no sab is very sadly not coming back for at least a year from now.

There was this story last week.

http://massivelyop.com/2015/09/17/guild-wars-2-player-finds-himself-trapped-in-the-super-adventure-box/

That was a weird fluke and does not represent anything.

I know, other than it proves it’s still there and the rumor that it broke due to an updated physics engine is likely false.

Behellagh.1468:

I know, other than it proves it’s still there and the rumor that it broke due to an updated physics engine is likely false.

I thought it did the opposite and proved it to be true.

StrangerDanger.3496:

Why on earth would they pull a trump card like SAB while the game is hyped for HOT and or after HOT is launched and that content is still fresh?

Would make more sense to do something like SAB during a sort of low point in game hype.

For instance if they continue this strange 3 year expansion cycle doing SAB 1.5 years after HOT has been out would make more sense.

Not really, if they included world 3 and 4 of SAB in HOT they would have sold way more copies in advance. And the game has been starving for any sort of content for a year almost: they should have released SAB world 3 when the living story ended if they wanted filler content.

Anyway I don’t see how HoT can keep me playing more than a year with the little PvE area that was shown and the lackluster Tempest spec. It better be a big surprise in scale upon release, specially for a price that is almost that of the full game.

Xillllix.3485:

StrangerDanger.3496:

Why on earth would they pull a trump card like SAB while the game is hyped for HOT and or after HOT is launched and that content is still fresh?

Would make more sense to do something like SAB during a sort of low point in game hype.

For instance if they continue this strange 3 year expansion cycle doing SAB 1.5 years after HOT has been out would make more sense.

Not really, if they included world 3 and 4 of SAB in HOT they would have sold way more copies in advance. And the game has been starving for any sort of content for a year almost: they should have released SAB world 3 when the living story ended if they wanted filler content.

Anyway I don’t see how HoT can keep me playing more than a year with the little PvE area that was shown and the lackluster Tempest spec. It better be a big surprise in scale upon release, specially for a price that is almost that of the full game.

I dont know about way more prepurchases of HOT but i for one would have HOT prepurchased if it was garuanteed to include even just sab world’s 1&2

Therodin.2970:

Xillllix.3485:

StrangerDanger.3496:

Why on earth would they pull a trump card like SAB while the game is hyped for HOT and or after HOT is launched and that content is still fresh?

Would make more sense to do something like SAB during a sort of low point in game hype.

For instance if they continue this strange 3 year expansion cycle doing SAB 1.5 years after HOT has been out would make more sense.

Not really, if they included world 3 and 4 of SAB in HOT they would have sold way more copies in advance. And the game has been starving for any sort of content for a year almost: they should have released SAB world 3 when the living story ended if they wanted filler content.

Anyway I don’t see how HoT can keep me playing more than a year with the little PvE area that was shown and the lackluster Tempest spec. It better be a big surprise in scale upon release, specially for a price that is almost that of the full game.

I dont know about way more prepurchases of HOT but i for one would have HOT prepurchased if it was garuanteed to include even just sab world’s 1&2

I’m still wondering what they are really doing for HoT:
Only 1 stronghold map was announced… (?)
Only 1 raid will be available
PvE region looks small, they are leaving us in the dark about its size which is sketchy
1 new WvW map and no update to the older maps
No new dungeons
No SAB
No Living Story
Some of the elite spec look rushed

If I had to guess I would presume that they have half their team working on their next game since 2013-2014.

Behellagh.1468:

I know, other than it proves it’s still there and the rumor that it broke due to an updated physics engine is likely false.

Actually based on what the trapped person said it very much sounds like it is very broken.
They have never said that it is unstartable, but if there are invisible holes and one hit kills everywhere it is very much broken.

I’ve played the game since launch and eventually stopped playing, every time SAB releases or re-releases I immediately join the game and my interest for the game peaks. I prefer SAB then any content they release even without an update to SAB.

If you can make exceptions ANet, I’m willing to spend 60$ if you can give me a pass to SAB, just send me a private mail or something and you can have my money. T~T

It’s bad enough it’s been gone for two years. Do you really have to taunt us with it on the Twitch stream game show?

Super Adventure Box (SAB) will be an adventure added when HoT lands. That is why they have been so tight lipped about it. If it isn’t already so, please make it so Anet!

Amazing live cover of SAB on stream, chiptune is even cooler though….

Whats this recent coverage of sab?

Therodin.2970:

Whats this recent coverage of sab?

The music.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3mdiik/these_musical_performances_are_amazing/

ahhhh gotcha, i thought some video had caught an intern playing the broken sab or something.