Swapping Utility Skills
I also would appreciate being able to swap out my utility while it’s on cooldown – not that I mean I should be able to access my utility immediately as if it were off cooldown, but just allow it to swap and the cooldown to countdown like normal. Just a quality of life improvement.
Problem is, what about people that click on abilities in combat? They would not like this change.
Problem is, what about people that click on abilities in combat? They would not like this change.
They could still left click under the proposed change. I don’t think any skill clickers are right clicking the skills, in any event.
I also would appreciate being able to swap out my utility while it’s on cooldown – not that I mean I should be able to access my utility immediately as if it were off cooldown, but just allow it to swap and the cooldown to countdown like normal. Just a quality of life improvement.
Not sure I understand. Let’s say you have just used a utility skill with a 40 second cooldown and you want to switch to a skill with a 20 second cooldown. When you switch, how many seconds will it be? 20? That gives an advantage to people who switch right before a fight as the switcher only has to wait 20 seconds and the non switcher has to wait the full 40.
I also would appreciate being able to swap out my utility while it’s on cooldown – not that I mean I should be able to access my utility immediately as if it were off cooldown, but just allow it to swap and the cooldown to countdown like normal. Just a quality of life improvement.
Not sure I understand. Let’s say you have just used a utility skill with a 40 second cooldown and you want to switch to a skill with a 20 second cooldown. When you switch, how many seconds will it be? 20? That gives an advantage to people who switch right before a fight as the switcher only has to wait 20 seconds and the non switcher has to wait the full 40.
I took it to mean that they’d want to be able to switch skills during cooldown with the cooldown of the previous skill still in place, not reduce the cooldown by switching skills. Something like using a skill with a 40 second cooldown, switching to to a new skill with a 20 second cooldown about 5 seconds later, and still needing to wait the remaining 35 seconds from the cooldown already in place before it can be used (not suddenly counting down from 20).
I also would appreciate being able to swap out my utility while it’s on cooldown – not that I mean I should be able to access my utility immediately as if it were off cooldown, but just allow it to swap and the cooldown to countdown like normal. Just a quality of life improvement.
Not sure I understand. Let’s say you have just used a utility skill with a 40 second cooldown and you want to switch to a skill with a 20 second cooldown. When you switch, how many seconds will it be? 20? That gives an advantage to people who switch right before a fight as the switcher only has to wait 20 seconds and the non switcher has to wait the full 40.
The Cooldown would be the same as the skill originally used, just that when the Cooldown is over the new skill will be in its place. So it functions the same as before just now you don’t have to wait to switch the skill.
I also would appreciate being able to swap out my utility while it’s on cooldown – not that I mean I should be able to access my utility immediately as if it were off cooldown, but just allow it to swap and the cooldown to countdown like normal. Just a quality of life improvement.
Not sure I understand. Let’s say you have just used a utility skill with a 40 second cooldown and you want to switch to a skill with a 20 second cooldown. When you switch, how many seconds will it be? 20? That gives an advantage to people who switch right before a fight as the switcher only has to wait 20 seconds and the non switcher has to wait the full 40.
I took it to mean that they’d want to be able to switch skills during cooldown with the cooldown of the previous skill still in place, not reduce the cooldown by switching skills. Something like using a skill with a 40 second cooldown, switching to to a new skill with a 20 second cooldown about 5 seconds later, and still needing to wait the remaining 35 seconds from the cooldown already in place before it can be used (not suddenly counting down from 20).
So, they would have to rewrite all the cooldowns as X minutes unless switched to Y minute skill then the Y minute utility has X minutes minus time already used for that previous utility skill?
Hmmm. If that’s what he meant, I suspect ANet could do it, but it sounds complicated and likely to be buggy.
I also would appreciate being able to swap out my utility while it’s on cooldown – not that I mean I should be able to access my utility immediately as if it were off cooldown, but just allow it to swap and the cooldown to countdown like normal. Just a quality of life improvement.
Not sure I understand. Let’s say you have just used a utility skill with a 40 second cooldown and you want to switch to a skill with a 20 second cooldown. When you switch, how many seconds will it be? 20? That gives an advantage to people who switch right before a fight as the switcher only has to wait 20 seconds and the non switcher has to wait the full 40.
I took it to mean that they’d want to be able to switch skills during cooldown with the cooldown of the previous skill still in place, not reduce the cooldown by switching skills. Something like using a skill with a 40 second cooldown, switching to to a new skill with a 20 second cooldown about 5 seconds later, and still needing to wait the remaining 35 seconds from the cooldown already in place before it can be used (not suddenly counting down from 20).
So, they would have to rewrite all the cooldowns as X minutes unless switched to Y minute skill then the Y minute utility has X minutes minus time already used for that previous utility skill?
Hmmm. If that’s what he meant, I suspect ANet could do it, but it sounds complicated and likely to be buggy.
It’s not complex. You making it that way.
The Cooldown animation would be there from the 40 second Cooldown ability, but the icon on the bar is the new skill you chose. So when that 40seconds is done, the new skill is there to work like it normally works, since nothing changed about that skill at all.
I also would appreciate being able to swap out my utility while it’s on cooldown – not that I mean I should be able to access my utility immediately as if it were off cooldown, but just allow it to swap and the cooldown to countdown like normal. Just a quality of life improvement.
Not sure I understand. Let’s say you have just used a utility skill with a 40 second cooldown and you want to switch to a skill with a 20 second cooldown. When you switch, how many seconds will it be? 20? That gives an advantage to people who switch right before a fight as the switcher only has to wait 20 seconds and the non switcher has to wait the full 40.
I took it to mean that they’d want to be able to switch skills during cooldown with the cooldown of the previous skill still in place, not reduce the cooldown by switching skills. Something like using a skill with a 40 second cooldown, switching to to a new skill with a 20 second cooldown about 5 seconds later, and still needing to wait the remaining 35 seconds from the cooldown already in place before it can be used (not suddenly counting down from 20).
So, they would have to rewrite all the cooldowns as X minutes unless switched to Y minute skill then the Y minute utility has X minutes minus time already used for that previous utility skill?
Hmmm. If that’s what he meant, I suspect ANet could do it, but it sounds complicated and likely to be buggy.
It’s not complex. You making it that way.
The Cooldown animation would be there from the 40 second Cooldown ability, but the icon on the bar is the new skill you chose. So when that 40seconds is done, the new skill is there to work like it normally works, since nothing changed about that skill at all.
Yes,
So, they would have to rewrite all the cooldowns as X minutes (40) unless switched to Y minute skill (20) then the Y minute (20) utility has X minutes (40) minus time already used for that previous utility skill?
That’s what I said.
They are going to have to reprogram it so that the previous skill cooldown overrides the new skill cooldown for the time of the switch since the new skill will be put into cooldown automatically at switch.
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I would also like to be able to change utilities while they’re on cooldown. Not necessarily in combat, but sometimes I put a utility on to run through areas of a dungeon, and then can’t have my preferred combat utilities while fighting the next section.
There’s also an annoying bug that sometimes puts a switched utility on cooldown if a utility in another slot is currently on CD.
The next thing is, I’m pretty sure there are many people who are used to certain skills on certain slots, so if you swap in something differently you kinda have to change the order. It’s an annoying thing to do, if you only want to swap places. So why no track and drop thingy to swap the order of the utility skills? It would be really nice.
Funny thing, GW1 had that exact feature for moving around skills that were already on your bar. Since in that game you could only move skills around when you were in towns/outposts instead of your combat instances, it was simple drag and drop. They should bring this feature back using the right-click you mentioned to select the skills, and right-click-hold to move those active skills around the skill bar.
hint hint wink wink ArenaNet look to GW1 for inspiration
Give us more GW 1 weapon and armor skins, please. COPY/PASTE ALREADY!!!!
As mentioned by someone earlier, being able to swap utilities while they are still on cooldown would be really useful.
[qT] Necro main.
I also would appreciate being able to swap out my utility while it’s on cooldown – not that I mean I should be able to access my utility immediately as if it were off cooldown, but just allow it to swap and the cooldown to countdown like normal. Just a quality of life improvement.
Not sure I understand. Let’s say you have just used a utility skill with a 40 second cooldown and you want to switch to a skill with a 20 second cooldown. When you switch, how many seconds will it be? 20? That gives an advantage to people who switch right before a fight as the switcher only has to wait 20 seconds and the non switcher has to wait the full 40.
I took it to mean that they’d want to be able to switch skills during cooldown with the cooldown of the previous skill still in place, not reduce the cooldown by switching skills. Something like using a skill with a 40 second cooldown, switching to to a new skill with a 20 second cooldown about 5 seconds later, and still needing to wait the remaining 35 seconds from the cooldown already in place before it can be used (not suddenly counting down from 20).
So, they would have to rewrite all the cooldowns as X minutes unless switched to Y minute skill then the Y minute utility has X minutes minus time already used for that previous utility skill?
Hmmm. If that’s what he meant, I suspect ANet could do it, but it sounds complicated and likely to be buggy.
The game already does something like this if your underwater utilities do no match your land utilities and you switch between land and water.
I also would appreciate being able to swap out my utility while it’s on cooldown – not that I mean I should be able to access my utility immediately as if it were off cooldown, but just allow it to swap and the cooldown to countdown like normal. Just a quality of life improvement.
Not sure I understand. Let’s say you have just used a utility skill with a 40 second cooldown and you want to switch to a skill with a 20 second cooldown. When you switch, how many seconds will it be? 20? That gives an advantage to people who switch right before a fight as the switcher only has to wait 20 seconds and the non switcher has to wait the full 40.
I took it to mean that they’d want to be able to switch skills during cooldown with the cooldown of the previous skill still in place, not reduce the cooldown by switching skills. Something like using a skill with a 40 second cooldown, switching to to a new skill with a 20 second cooldown about 5 seconds later, and still needing to wait the remaining 35 seconds from the cooldown already in place before it can be used (not suddenly counting down from 20).
So, they would have to rewrite all the cooldowns as X minutes unless switched to Y minute skill then the Y minute utility has X minutes minus time already used for that previous utility skill?
Hmmm. If that’s what he meant, I suspect ANet could do it, but it sounds complicated and likely to be buggy.
It’s not complex. You making it that way.
The Cooldown animation would be there from the 40 second Cooldown ability, but the icon on the bar is the new skill you chose. So when that 40seconds is done, the new skill is there to work like it normally works, since nothing changed about that skill at all.
Yes,
So, they would have to rewrite all the cooldowns as X minutes (40) unless switched to Y minute skill (20) then the Y minute (20) utility has X minutes (40) minus time already used for that previous utility skill?
That’s what I said.
They are going to have to reprogram it so that the previous skill cooldown overrides the new skill cooldown for the time of the switch since the new skill will be put into cooldown automatically at switch.
Unnecessarily complex because you’re making it that way. They dont even need to touch the skills in the first place. Cooldowns would be skill slot specific, with appropriate lock-outs.
Lets say you use the engineer’s elixir B, with a 40 second cooldown, in slot 7. That slot is now locked into a 40 second cooldown. If you replace that skill with one of the kits, the cooldown is still there, even if the kit has a fractional cooldown itself. Now, lets say you want to swap elixir B to slot 8. No problem, the cooldown travels with it.
Viola, so easy a bookah could do it.